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Right, I'm not saying he's confirmed town, but it was odd that Ferastical completely ignored it when building his case against him. The Kevin suspicion threw me off too.

@WP, when did you learn that Kevin was town?


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Canik was night 3 but it was blocked,

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makese sense, canik died n3 so it would be blocked.  

 

@WP if you knew ABT was town, then you would have known MK was not town.  to the best of my knowledge you were voting me instead of MK, so now im kind of confused...  any reason why?

 

i do think youre probably telling the truth tho, since that would be a hard claim to fake, especially the way the game has gone for scum

 

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Right, I'm not saying he's confirmed town, but it was odd that Ferastical completely ignored it when building his case against him. The Kevin suspicion threw me off too.

@WP, when did you learn that Kevin was town?

Kevin Night 2
Abt night 1
Canik was night 3 but it was blocked,

I'm more the happy to put a target on my back if it helps town win

I can somewhat confirm part of this which is why I was curious. This definitely bumps you way down on my list of suspects.

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I supposed I could have held off on my soft claim but I was getting questioned and it was time to take one for the team.

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So, I went back through the posts for D3 and here is a summary of what I found. I haven't been getting many replies so hopefully this is of better quality for yall.

 

Torres: Unvoted last minute. RC VT (I consider it weird that ONI is VT, I suspect he has daytime role)
ABT: Town from previous investigations
Brewer: Did the investigation (Town) RC Parity Cop
Ferastical: FOS from WolfPacks and LLW. Current vote for Cop RC
KevinH: WP claims is town, RC VT
Robert: Suspects Torres at the top
LLW: FOS on Ferastical,  +1 Townie from KevinH
TW: ??? Couldn't find anything
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Wolf: RC Investigator. Investigated ABT, Kevin, and Canik. FOS on Ferastical

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Kevin Night 2 Abt night 1 Canik was night 3 but it was blocked, I'm more the happy to put a target on my back if it helps town win

 

Now that's a claim you can't refuse exists.

 

Unvote

 

I'm still fairly curious about the logistics. Since we're considering third alignments, are you 100% positive the results you've gotten have indicated that your targets are townie? And yes, then there's voting for brewers for some reason. I could understand trying to come off as an unappealing target to scum, but there's a thin line between good strategical voting and really confusing voting.

 

Aside from that I don't really have a feeling for Torres. I would like to hear more from Robert on the other hand. Considering his highly analytical posts I've seen I'm expecting something at least half decent.

 

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actrually good question @ ferastical.  

 

@WP what do the results say?  is it guilty/not guilty?  town/not town?  mafia/not maifa?  something else? 



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Interesting news about WP. If noone counters him, that will means he probably tells the truth.

 

Taking into account this revelations. Also combining the fact that LWW somehow saw WP acting and yet a vanila Townie died at night (instead of WP), we could assume LWW is most probably a town too. I'll add brewers to most probably a town too due to MK finding. 

 

So this how things were in the past days:

 

Day 3: 

Tony Maurice (6): captainjf, lilweirdward, brewersalliance, Canik, Lyner, The Warrior
brewersalliance (1): Wolfpacks
Canik (5): KevinH, Ferastical, ABT, Robert, Tony
Not Voting (1): Torres

 

Day 2:

brewersalliance (1): Rafay
KevinH (2): AbT, Canik 
Rafay (6): Lyner, KevinH, Ferastical, brewersalliance, Finster Baby, Torres
Torres951 (1): Wolfpacks
No Lynch (3): lilweirdward, captainjf, The Warrior
Not Voting (2): Tony Maurice, Robert 

 

Our unknowns are (sorted by my suspicion rating, from less to most): Torres, TW, Ferastical, captainjf, Robert 

 

These are 5 people and probably 2 of them are scum. That translates into 3 potential misslynches, though currently we can miss only twice (since we're probably at 8 townies vs 2 scum, we'll lose after 3rd misslynch). 

However if town Vig theory is correct, we could squeeze in that one more kill we need and mop up the scum even in a worse case (IF they're actually among those 5).



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So, I went back through the posts for D3 and here is a summary of what I found. I haven't been getting many replies so hopefully this is of better quality for yall.

 

Torres: Unvoted last minute. RC VT (I consider it weird that ONI is VT, I suspect he has daytime role)
ABT: Town from previous investigations
Brewer: Did the investigation (Town) RC Parity Cop
Ferastical: FOS from WolfPacks and LLW. Current vote for Cop RC
KevinH: WP claims is town, RC VT
Robert: Suspects Torres at the top
LLW: FOS on Ferastical,  +1 Townie from KevinH
TW: ??? Couldn't find anything
Captain: (I can't really judge myself well) 
Wolf: RC Investigator. Investigated ABT, Kevin, and Canik. FOS on Ferastical

 

 

Based on these facts, I suspect Ferastical, followed by TW, and finally Robert.

 

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actrually good question @ ferastical.

@WP what do the results say? is it guilty/not guilty? town/not town? mafia/not maifa? something else?


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So, I went back through the posts for D3 and here is a summary of what I found. I haven't been getting many replies so hopefully this is of better quality for yall.
 
Torres: Unvoted last minute. RC VT (I consider it weird that ONI is VT, I suspect he has daytime role)
ABT: Town from previous investigations
Brewer: Did the investigation (Town) RC Parity Cop
Ferastical: FOS from WolfPacks and LLW. Current vote for Cop RC
KevinH: WP claims is town, RC VT
Robert: Suspects Torres at the top
LLW: FOS on Ferastical,  +1 Townie from KevinH
TW: ??? Couldn't find anything
Captain: (I can't really judge myself well) 
Wolf: RC Investigator. Investigated ABT, Kevin, and Canik. FOS on Ferastical
 

 
Based on these facts, I suspect Ferastical, followed by TW, and finally Robert.
 
VOTE Ferastical

So what happened with your suspicion about Torres?

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So, I went back through the posts for D3 and here is a summary of what I found. I haven't been getting many replies so hopefully this is of better quality for yall.
 
Torres: Unvoted last minute. RC VT (I consider it weird that ONI is VT, I suspect he has daytime role)
ABT: Town from previous investigations
Brewer: Did the investigation (Town) RC Parity Cop
Ferastical: FOS from WolfPacks and LLW. Current vote for Cop RC
KevinH: WP claims is town, RC VT
Robert: Suspects Torres at the top
LLW: FOS on Ferastical,  +1 Townie from KevinH
TW: ??? Couldn't find anything
Captain: (I can't really judge myself well) 
Wolf: RC Investigator. Investigated ABT, Kevin, and Canik. FOS on Ferastical
 
 

 
Based on these facts, I suspect Ferastical, followed by TW, and finally Robert.
 
VOTE Ferastical

So what happened with your suspicion about Torres?

 

 

I'm assuming his RC of ONI agent is true.


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I do think more Pressure should be applied here. Torres unvoting got my attention yesterday day phase and he hasn't done anything to really elevate. Coupled with I don't really have strong scum reads, he's still on top of my suspect list. 

 

Vote Torres

You're focusing just on yesterday and ignoring Torres votings from previous day, because it's more convenient to prosecute him this way.

 

And about yesteday: Caniks wagon was the only serious one and it was pretty obvious he'll get lynched (at least until Tony appeared on stage). When Torres joined the wagon it was:

 

Canik (5): KevinH, Ferastical, ABT, Robert, Torres

Robert2424 (2): brewersalliance, Canik

 

If Torres was a scum being afraid of lynching a town, why would he jump on the leading wagon in the first place?

Surely he could have jumped off due to seeing Tonys wagon forming quickly (since for a scum it's always better when not him, but someone else is accused of lynching townie). But it could as well be a decision of a townie who's not sure if he's going after a right person. 


Robert, I don't agree with your choices and I don't trust you, since I don't see you analyzing the situation, like in other games where you were a town. 

 

While this is not a definite proof, to me other players appear more townish than you...and someone has to be a scum here. 

 

vote Robert

 

Soft Defense of Torres? Lol


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Vote: Captainjf

 

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That is just unfair!!!


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AND FOR NOT KNOWING WHERE YOUR FREAKING STATE IS LOCATED ON A MAP :riot:


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It may be few people, but at least several consider Oklahoma to be in the Midwest. Additionally, in my defense, I've lived in OK for less than a year.

 

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I'm going to clean up Ali Post as it hella confusing and Unusable. Crossing out dead players. 

 

Day 3: 

 

Tony Maurice (6): captainjf, lilweirdward, brewersalliance(By Special Abiltity), Canik, Lyner, The Warrior

 

brewersalliance(By Special Abiltity) (1): Wolfpacks

 

Canik (5): KevinH, Ferastical, ABT, Robert, Tony

 

Not Voting (1): Torres  

 

 

Day 2:

 

brewersalliance(By Special Abiltity) (1): Rafay

 

KevinH (2): AbT, Canik 

 

Rafay (6): Lyner, KevinH, Ferastical, brewersalliance(By Special Abiltity), Finster Baby, Torres 

 

Torres951 (1): Wolfpacks

 

No Lynch (3): lilweirdward, captainjf, The Warrior

 

Not Voting (2): Tony Maurice, Robert 

 

 

 

 

Night 1 hade 0 Deaths. This is an oddity, but not unexplainable. Many People have claimed VT. Some haven't claimed at all. Brewers thinks it mainly a VT game, however, N1 indicates its not. So its either, a doc, a block, or a Jailkeeper.

 

MK was mod killed on day two and Rafay was Lynched on day 2. 

 

We lost Finster on night 2. Odd choice, but what do I know. Clearly killed by scum via Flavor. 

 

We lost Tony on Day 3. Tony gets lynched again for how he plays. 

 

We lost Canik and Lyner Night 3. The Flavor isn't as clear with the Canik kill, but I'm inclined to think he was killed by a Town Vig for only being shot to death. Lyner is stabbed but mod mentioned there be an explanation for it at the end of the game? I'm inclined to believe scum killed lyner though. While a spartan can pick up an energy sword, I doubt ODST would. 

 

So Lyner was a Town Two-Shot Action Immune. he may of killed Canik. Unless its one of the other 3 who were voting for him cause i'm not the vig. 

 

when cleaning up ABT thing. I noticed ABT put Wolfpacks as somebody he believed to be town. You want to elaborate on that? 


ah wolfpacks claims investigator, I have to believe it as well. 


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So after considering WP being an Investigator. I'm Given a short list of Half the remaining players. lilweirdward, The Warrior, captainjf, Torres951, Ferastical, 

 

So heres the thing. We can say 2 things about this short list. Remaining scum is within this wagon. I think its prudent I reveal the little information I have as well. It shouldn't really hurt the town by saying it now anyways. Within the list, unless somebody who's claimed VT lied, There is a Town Jailkeeper. I have been told there is at least 1 Jailkeeper in this game at the beginning of the game. Claiming this now I don't believe hurts the town unless I missed something. Meaning, said Jailkeeper RC's and has blocked any remaining on the list, we can shorten the list again. 


list not wagon. 


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Soft Defense of Torres? Lol
 

 

And what's your take on that? That I'm his buddy :lol:? Too bad you didn't decide to comment on the post at all. I'd love to hear why do you want to lynch someone, who's been on both scum wagons.  

 

Apart from that, claiming that you've been told that there's a Jailkeeper in this game sounds odd. Why would mod give you such an information...I mean why would Jailkeeper be so important role, that his existence must be shared with a random player?

Or maybe you or your buddy were jailed on N1 while trying to deliver a kill? 



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