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[Ali bin Turban]

And also TW can be mafias motion detector.

[The Warrior]

Honestly I dont what to do now. I dont like that SK possibility. Robert will be lynched because there are no better targets. Hopefully hes our scum, but if the game goes on, then:

- TW might be just making up his story. At this point we're unable to verify his claim. Though him being normal SK ( no actions other than NK) is less likely ( since he was blocked in the past - which would indicate he tried to kill only on that specific night).
- brewers could be SK
- KevinH could be a godfather
- Torres I dont think is mafia and he does not fit SK role ( he'd not wait for so long but go on a killing spree right away).

I'm indeed a Vig ( which I guess is pretty obvious now) and Im wondering if / who should I visit tonight if games not over yet. And I feel this upcoming night might be last one for me.

 

1. If Robert is lynched today and is the last scum then it's game over and we win. - Result: Town Wins
2. If Robert is lynched today and is scum, but not the last one, then we will probably have 4 town vs 1 scum tonight.
   1. If ABT kills correctly then we win. - Result: Town Wins
   2. If ABT kills incorrectly (it doesn't matter what the remaining scum does) it's LYLO for town tomorrow. - Result: Town can win by lynching correctly tomorrow.
   3. If ABT does not kill it'll probably be 3 town vs 1 scum tomorrow (essentially LYLO). - Result: Town can win by lynching correctly tomorrow.
3. If Robert is lynched today and is not scum, then we either have 3 vs 2 tonight or 3 vs 1 vs 1.
   1. If it's 3 vs 2 and ABT kills correctly at night then it'll probably be 2 vs 1 tomorrow (LYLO). - Result: Town can win by lynching correctly tomorrow.
   2. If its 3 vs 2 and ABT kills town at night. -  Result: Instant Town Loss.
   3. If it's 3 vs 2 and ABT does not kill at night, town loses with the night kill. - Result: Instant Town Loss.
   4. If it's 3 vs 1 vs 1 and ABT kills scum at night, any result could occur depending on scum kills. - Result: Town could win, tie, or ultimately lose depending on scum kills.
   5. If it's 3 vs 1 vs 1 and ABT kills town at night, the town could lose at night if both scum factions kill town. - Result: Town could win, tie, or lose depending on scum kills.
   6. If it's 3 vs 1 vs 1 and ABT does not kill tonight, any result could occur depending on scum kills. - Result: Town could win, tie, or ultimately lose depending on scum kills.

If Robert is lynched today and turns up as scum, my recommendation would be for ABT to kill his top remaining suspect at night. He will either be right and we win or wrong and it's LYLO for town tomorrow (same as if he didn't kill at all).

 

If Robert is lynched and is not scum it becomes a more difficult decision. Assuming I've accounted for all the possibilities (I think I have anyway) then we have the following result probabilities:

1 of 9 scenarios = Instant Town Win

3 of 9 scenarios = Town could win in a LYLO situation tomorrow

3 of 9 scenarios = Town could win, tie, or lose still

2 of 9 scenarios = Instant Town Loss

[Ali bin Turban]

If lynching Robert wont end the game I think I'll take a shoot. For me
- torres does not fit mafia ( by votes) nor SK ( to reckless)
- KevinH does not fit SK due to WPs finding ( correct me if Im wrong)
- TW can be either mafia or even night SK ( that could be explanation for N2 block by LWW, N3 no kill and N4 kill)
- Brewers can be a SK ( and I dont like, that hes hiding details about his role).

In case SK exists and is bulletproof it'll be better if I make it known who I'll shot beforehand

Any suggestions?

[brewersalliance]

I dont want to share the final part of my role because it can win the game for us and I don't want the last scum to know what it is. I'll tell u it tomorrow if we get into a lylo obviously. If I was the sk I wouldn't be ambiguous like this and I'd just straight up claim something lol

But anyways I think it depends on robert. If he's the sk then it's either Kevin as a godfather or TW.

If Robert is mafia then the sk is most likely TW as I doubt it is torres

If Robert is town, which I doubt, then it's gotta be Kevin mafia godfather, tw sk. In that case u should def shoot kevin as I highly doubt there would be a bullet proof godfather.

I still think Roberts gonna be a bp sk, as he was begging mafia to target him for the kill before lol
If Roberts town tho, this isn't gonna be good as they can kill two townies. :/

Robert better be scum.

[Robert2424]

Your the one twisting stuff here Brewers. I didn't force anybody to RC, only said it was likely Jailkeeper in the list. He choose his own path. I have no control weather he came out. Do I think its silly that he came out when he did. Yes. Is it my fault. No. He very well could of remained quiet. I wasn't even going to go after him at that point so he claimed freely with no pressure. 

 

You continually Claiming its my fault has no bearing and is your entire reasoning for voting me is because of it. If the town switched to LWW and then after everyone applied pressure and he claimed then, it be diffen't. Let me pull up Kevin post anyways. 

[Robert2424]

"Some more creative uses have included Town Enablers for Mafia power roles and Mafia Enablers for Town power roles. Both of these (the latter to a greater extent) reduce the positive feedback Mafia naturally generates for a faction that starts to win by taking away their power roles."

 

 

This is Kevin's Entire Reason for voting me. So either he's saying 1, He thinks I'm lying about being enabler, or 2, he's leaning towards me being a scum one as the most likely scenario, or 3, just doesn't care. 

 

Tell you guys what. I'm most likely lynched for sillyness, but I'll follow the Rabbit hole TW has put out. I know that I'm town. If TW claim has any weight, and he backs up what he says. If TW isn't scum, Kevin has to be. 

 

Unvote

Vote Kevin

[Torres951]

I'm loving all the detective work going on. I'm glad I could contribute and bring to light most/all of the information presented today!

[brewersalliance]

Dude seriously why don't you try? I don't get it. We are all trying except you.

[Ali bin Turban]

If Robert turns SK I'll shoot KevinH
If town then I'll shoot TW.
If scum then Ill choose randomly ( except for torres)...but it doesnt matter since game will be decided by a coin toss from torres

[brewersalliance]

If Torres actually decided this game via coin toss and we win, his coin can replace Rafay as the goat

[Torres951]

Bruh, I have to decide who gets lynched?

[brewersalliance]

i mean you could actually try to put in some effort and vote for someone...

also if torres is the sk and wins this game for playing like a total idiot im going to be beyond pissed

[KevinH]

Enabler is a rare role, but it could be either faction.  So claiming Enabler (which I believe) is not the same as claiming Town (of which I am uncertain).

 

I do believe Robert is an Enabler.

 

I don't believe that just because he is an Enabler, that makes him town.

 

I'm just a Vanilla Townie and don't really know anything special.

[brewersalliance]

I do believe Robert is an Enabler.   I don't believe that just because he is an Enabler, that makes him town.

 

 

His actions are much more consitant with a scum enabler than a town enabler.  deadline is tomorrow.  would be nice if everyone actually voted 

just be mindful of the hammer please

[The Warrior]

I'm loving all the detective work going on. I'm glad I could contribute and bring to light most/all of the information presented today!

Are you in some sort of secret competition with Rafay to see who can post the most things like this? Why aren’t you even trying to contribute to the conversation at this point? Is it because you’ve played the entire game like this and actually trying now will out you?

If Robert isn’t the final scum then I think you’re our next best bet.

[brewersalliance]

if torres wins because he just lol posted the entire game im going to be beyond pissed 

[Robert2424]

if torres wins because he just lol posted the entire game im going to be beyond pissed 

Well, you are voting me instead of him. so. I don't really have sympathy for you brewers. I tried to vote him last day phase as well. I'll get my I told you so post warmed up for you. 

[Velocity]

Official Vote Count

brewersalliance (0):
ABT (0):
KevinH (1): Robert2424
The Warrior (0):
Torres951 (0):
Robert2424 (2): brewersalliance, KevinH


Not Voting (3): ABT, The Warrior, Torres951


With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline.
Deadline is 10-30 at 6pm CN time.

[The Warrior]

Any recommendations for who I should use my motion detection on this evening? If not, I’ll choose to watch my top remaining suspect depending on who we lynch today.

@Torres - Deadline is this evening. Do you have anything to contribute?

[Ali bin Turban]

To make sure no funny things happen.

Vote Robert
If I were you Id took a look at brewers