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[VL-01] Halo: The Battle Of Reach Mafia: Mafia-SK TIE


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I took a look again at Velocity's story after Rafay was lynched:

 

Thel ‘Vadamee was furious. His initial invasion force had been mostly held off by the humans, despite his earlier assumptions. His forces were making progress, though it is far slower than anticipated. Compounding onto that, more personally, an elite team he had sent to eliminate a high value Spartan team, had perished. One of them he had known well, an honorable warrior and stoic defender of the Great Journey. That was the last straw for not just him, but also the High Prophets.

 

Hearing his failures, the failure to eliminate the human’s military jewel and recover the abundance of holy artifacts stored there, the Prophets themselves had him return to High Charity, for a “special ceremony.” Upon his arrival, he was put in chains, and taken to the Council hall.

 

Thel ‘Vadamee, a proud Fleetmaster... Reduced to a mere suicide errand boy for the Prophets.

 

 He had become... The Arbiter.

 

To make matters worse for himself, the Prophet of Regret ordered him back to the human planet of Reach, to attack and eliminate the Spartan team his men had failed to do so, by himself.

Upon his arrival back to the planet, he quickly set out on his path of Vengeance against the Spartans that were the reason he was in this unfortunate situation. He has a grudge to settle, and nothing will stop him.

 

One could draw a conclusion (especially after reading last paragraph) that there's just one guy left. I also didn't noticed in the text any involvement of 3rd party, so I'm bit skeptic about SK just yet. 

Though if he exists, Brewers is also one of the possible suspects. 

 

For now, assuming we're talking about mafia only, I agree that Robert is a best target. But I'll let him come and talk before I vote. 



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I mean If there isn't a sk, how did we get three kills? Unless someone also has a pgo ability and it killed WP or lww

I don't think I've ever seen a mafia role where they can kill two people in one night. Tho there have been a few roles I've never seen before in this game so I guess that isn't out of the question

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So with both captain and ferstacal gone, left with TW, and Torres. 

 

The possibility of a Godfather perplexes me. 

 

TW has claimed now...and it with a name claim.  Chief Petty Officer McRobb, I found some info simply punching it into Google. 

 

https://www.halopedia.org/McRobb

 

At this point, is it only me and one other person who's Name claimed up to this point? 

 

We also don't know who LWW Jailkeeped. witch sucks unless he said somewhere and I missed it. He could of Jailkeeped TW, (I didn't see him claim to be Jailkeeped so I don't think he was), Torres, me, or Captain. (Captain was killed so we can rule that out). I wasn't notified I was Jailkeeped, course I don't have any night actions, and that up to the mod. But out of the possible options, I think it is most likely he Jailed me or Torres. If Torres did get Jailkeeped, now be the time to come forward if you got a message you were. 

 

If I'm going to buy TW role claim, I feel it would have to be a case in fact as TW mentioned, a Mafia Godfather. 

 

So, I would think there be only one role if there wasn't an SK as well. A Paranoid Gun owner. If that was the case. Ouch. That really hurts us. 

 

If Kevin and Torres hasn't named claim, Please do so now. 

 

@Brewers, I don't even have a night action. And I've claimed a known character thats been included in the story. Kat, Noble Team Lieutenant Commander. Nobody has counter claimed this either. 


So there's only a few possibility's from my standpoint. 

 

1. Kevin Mafia Godfather

and Torres SK

 

2. TW mafia

Torres SK

 

3. Torres Mafia

TW SK

 

4. Kevin Mafia Godfather

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If Kevin and Torres hasn't named claim, Please do so now. 

I role claimed and name claimed back in post #667, almost 200 posts ago!


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I mean If there isn't a sk, how did we get three kills? Unless someone also has a pgo ability and it killed WP or lww

I don't think I've ever seen a mafia role where they can kill two people in one night. Tho there have been a few roles I've never seen before in this game so I guess that isn't out of the question

I've seen it in one of the games in the past (I don't remember if that was TW's or KevinH's game) - one of the scum got JOAT with 1 action of Vig like shot. 

 

For the sake of completing Character claims: 

 

TW - Chief Petty Officer McRobb

Robert - Kat, Noble Team Lieutenant Commander

Torres - Vance, ONI Special Activities Division 

ABT - Jorge, Spartan II

Brewers - ????

KevinH - ???



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I wasn't notified I was Jailkeeped, course I don't have any night actions, and that up to the mod. But out of the possible options, I think it is most likely he Jailed me or Torres
 

 

I don't think one gets any information about jailkeeping. He'd only get info when using an action. Though that's a good point. LWW did target someone, and it wasn't TW, captain or WP, so most probably it was Torres or Robert. So the likehood of them both being on the wrong side is lower. 



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It could have been WP if scum had a strongman kill but I highly doubt he would have jailed the cop

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Players who could have been jailed

Me- did not do an action last night so I wouldn't know if I was jailed
ABT - tho less likely because well the vig kill of captain
Kevin - claimed VT so if jailed he wouldn't know (unless he isn't a VT)
Robert - same
Torres - same

So really there is no way for us to actually know who was jailed. I think it was most likely robert or Torres, but that doesn't narrow it down or confirm if they actually were jailed. And modifiers could also be in play like an asctetic or something that would stop the jailing from actually taking place.

So I dont know if that's going to help us a ton today. I think the best bet is to go off what we know. Robert forced the jailer to come out and that was totally unnecessary. He then begged mafia to kill him. Either he has a pgo modifier and he baited WP into targeting him which would be RECKLESS as hell, or he wanted to appear super towny with that. And to me it just feels like he was trying way to hard to look town.

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Assuming LWW did jail someone last night it was most likely Torres, Robert, or Kevin — all of which have claimed passive (or none) actions. They either wouldn’t know they had been jailed or they’d be openly admitting to having another action that they didn’t disclose previously so unfortunately we probably wont know for sure who LWW would have targeted.


I mean If there isn't a sk, how did we get three kills? Unless someone also has a pgo ability and it killed WP or lww

I don't think I've ever seen a mafia role where they can kill two people in one night. Tho there have been a few roles I've never seen before in this game so I guess that isn't out of the question

I've seen it in one of the games in the past (I don't remember if that was TW's or KevinH's game) - one of the scum got JOAT with 1 action of Vig like shot.

I don’t remember the specific game but I do recall something like this happening in a game.

I suppose it’s also possible that someone had a lover modifier or something but I’m not sure how that would fit the lore.
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But was the same scum able to do two kills in one night? I remember seeing a joat scum with a kill once but he couldn't do both kills, the other scum had to do the kill. I think that was a MK game
Either way that's irrelevant, as velocity is the mod and can be doing whatever he wants, as we have seen with a made up role, the mk situation etc

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Right. I suppose it wouldn’t be much different though than a mod allowing a mafia role like roleblocker to both block and kill on the same night.
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I still think it's more likely than not we have an sk over a mafia member who can kill twice in one night.

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Problem with SK is that it can be virtually anynone. He will play like a town and we have no tools to find him. On the other hand we can't afford to hunt for random people when we still have mafia to handle. So if he exists it'll be pure luck to get him. 

 

If that's a mafia with additional kill ability, then it's probably a limited use power. We've seen it being used the moment our power roles revealed themselves. That suggest scum were patient enough to wait with it for the opportune moment (which suggest it would not be Torres). 

 

My order of trust is right now at (from most to least): 

 

Brewers/Torres

KevinH/TW

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I have to agree with brewers, I think theres an SK. 


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out of the remaining 4. Kevin had an investigation on him. TW was confirmed blocked a night. Torres has nothing other then a regular claim and some votes. Brewers, I believe is the most town out of all of them. Or he has completely fooled me and everyone else. 

 

To give town the best chance for victory, and given the options. I'll do what I think is the towns best move. 

 

Vote Torres

 

It might look like I'm tunneling again, but I don't see a better choice for town. 

 

I'm not ready to go after either Kevin or TW, unless somebody brings something up, or I've missed something. But I have to think TW and Kevin are on different sides this game. However, at this time, if I was forced to pick between the two...its a VT claim vs. a half claim. I'd have to go against TW. While there is a chance, idk if Velocity would put a God Father in the game. 


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So you say that guy who helped lynching 2 scums is most likely to be scum? More likely than TW, because TW got blocked at night?

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I'm just...so confused. I thought we had it in the bag, then BOOM! 3 deaths.


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You've said that already, so why repeating this? And its not contributing to the discussion anyway.

It would be much better if you wrote what do you think about current situation and who's your suspect.

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That's the thing, I don't know! 


Once upon a time there was a lovely princess. But she had an enchantment upon her of a fearful sort, which could only be broken by Love's first kiss. She was locked away in a castle guarded by a terrible fire breathing dragon. Many brave knights had attempted to free her from this dreadful prison, but none prevailed. She waited in the dragon's keep in the highest room of the tallest tower for her true love and true love's first kiss.


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