MK is just being a normal troll, and he always likes messing with me anyway. It would not surprise me at all though if at least one or two scum are on my wagon to try to help encourage town to mislynch, seeing as literally no one has given a valid reason to lynch me (which makes sense since it's D1, and we know nothing). Velocity sticks out the most to me for saying I was the best bet today and then basically not having a reason when I asked other than an unnecessarily long post about how he doesn't think no lynching today is a good idea, which imo is not a valid reason to vote to lynch someone.

Vote Count

Lilweirdward (6): Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance, Finster Baby, Rafay, Velocity,

Brewersalliance (2): Robert2424, Chaplain of death,

Robert2424 (1): Tony Maurice,

Rafay (1): Kaziocore,

Ferastical (1): Lyner,

Kaziocore (0):

The Warrior (0):

Ali bin Turban

Chaplain of death

Dontavian

Finster Baby

Lord MK

Lyner

Tony Maurice

Torres951

Velocity

Wolfpacks

 

No Lynch (2): Lilweirdward, Wolfpacks,

 

Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Dontavian, Ferastical, The Warrior,

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

There is not a deadline half-majority lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 30 at 17:00 EST

We still have like a week before deadline

 

I agree with Tony, if we gotta lynch someone better vote the inactives before they plague the game later

 

That or No lynch

What a crappy day 1 lynch choice. 

 

an active one who has been jumped on for a non reason.

 

I mean at least vote for someone like Robert who has declared apathy and goes on inactive randomly. 

You really aren't that smart are you?

MK is just being a normal troll, and he always likes messing with me anyway. It would not surprise me at all though if at least one or two scum are on my wagon to try to help encourage town to mislynch, seeing as literally no one has given a valid reason to lynch me (which makes sense since it's D1, and we know nothing). Velocity sticks out the most to me for saying I was the best bet today and then basically not having a reason when I asked other than an unnecessarily long post about how he doesn't think no lynching today is a good idea, which imo is not a valid reason to vote to lynch someone.

I’m a man of math, and math points to lynching having a low risk and high reward, with a no lynch being a no risk no reward.

 

If not no lynching today isn’t a good idea to me, I would be a hypocrite if I didn’t vote. So of course I voted.

 

If you have a better lynch candidate, feel free to vote for them, maybe if you have a good reason why or a read you made others will join you in it.

 

I get pushed to vote by everyone, and then when I go and vote I’m suddenly a target because I’m voting for something that isn’t a no lynch, which is what I usually vote for if I do vote and then also get told to stop voting no lynch? XD

 

No lynch has its uses, but this game isn’t one where it’s a great decision even on D1, because literally everybody is a PR. I would rather lynch somebody less active than you, have no doubts, but I’m not influential of vocal enough to really be able to start a wagon on anybody without evidence, and trying to do it would make me seem very suspicious because I don’t normally do it. Nobody has given me a particularly off putting read either, so I can’t exactly go off of reads.

 

 

I’m a man of math, and math points to lynching having a low risk and high reward, with a no lynch being a no risk no reward.

 

Lol this is almost completely wrong, especially in a role madness game like this. Lynching is high-risk, high-reward, since obviously you need to lynch scum to win, but mislynching means losing a townie and getting closer to LYLO, as well as losing a PR that could be useful later in the game (what if we accidentally lynch the only town-aligned alignment cop, for example?). Also no lynch is low-risk, low-reward: obviously you can't lynch scum and risk them dying during the night anyway, but you also get to drag out the game and keep more townies alive for longer, which in an open role madness setup is extra helpful.

 

 

 

I would rather lynch somebody less active than you, have no doubts, but I’m not influential of vocal enough to really be able to start a wagon on anybody without evidence, and trying to do it would make me seem very suspicious because I don’t normally do it. Nobody has given me a particularly off putting read either, so I can’t exactly go off of reads.

 

You posted a lot of words to finally get to this point, which is essentially that you're trying to lynch me just because I'm the closest to the vote requirement. I wouldn't say it's too suspicious since I've done that before on D1 too (as town lol), but admitting to thinking people will see your actions as suspicious has always felt like a bit of a tell to me, since players who know they're town generally don't care as much if people think they're acting scummy.

 

I'm sticking with my No Lynch vote, but definitely FoS Velocity.

 

Does anyone have a reason for lynching lww other than him suggesting possibly no lynching multiple days?

Well, he wasn't merely suggesting.

 

He was pretty much trying to force it.

 

 

Trying to force it? I don't really think you can be forced to do anything by anyone else. It seems to me like he made a suggestion and others simply disagreed.

 

 

 

Does anyone have a reason for lynching lww other than him suggesting possibly no lynching multiple days?

Well, he wasn't merely suggesting.

 

He was pretty much trying to force it.

Trying to force it? I don't really think you can be forced to do anything by anyone else. It seems to me like he made a suggestion and others simply disagreed.

Okay, that's true.

But it was akin to that

 

Okay, better example.

The democrats wanting less border guards, they are pretty much trying to force the government and guilt trip the voters to do it.

So i would equate lww's campaigning to the democratic narrative of a peaceful border.

 

I hope that makes more sense to you.

.

 

I would rather lynch somebody less active than you, have no doubts, but I’m not influential of vocal enough to really be able to start a wagon on anybody without evidence, and trying to do it would make me seem very suspicious because I don’t normally do it.

You goddamn moocher.

 

 

What a crappy day 1 lynch choice.

 

an active one who has been jumped on for a non reason.

 

I mean at least vote for someone like Robert who has declared apathy and goes on inactive randomly.

You really aren't that smart are you?

 

 

What a crappy day 1 lynch choice.

 

an active one who has been jumped on for a non reason.

 

I mean at least vote for someone like Robert who has declared apathy and goes on inactive randomly.

You really aren't that smart are you?

I'm not that smart either but are you playing seriously or not, if not then

 

VOTE ROBERT

 

 

What a crappy day 1 lynch choice.

 

an active one who has been jumped on for a non reason.

 

I mean at least vote for someone like Robert who has declared apathy and goes on inactive randomly.

You really aren't that smart are you?

I'm not that smart either but are you playing seriously or not, if not then

 

VOTE ROBERT

 

 

Yeah lynch Milcom! hey wait......  WP is milcom too...... 

I'm still aren't I wolfpacks?

I is not how bout you lol

 

I’m a man of math, and math points to lynching having a low risk and high reward, with a no lynch being a no risk no reward.

Lol this is almost completely wrong, especially in a role madness game like this. Lynching is high-risk, high-reward, since obviously you need to lynch scum to win, but mislynching means losing a townie and getting closer to LYLO, as well as losing a PR that could be useful later in the game (what if we accidentally lynch the only town-aligned alignment cop, for example?). Also no lynch is low-risk, low-reward: obviously you can't lynch scum and risk them dying during the night anyway, but you also get to drag out the game and keep more townies alive for longer, which in an open role madness setup is extra helpful.

I would rather lynch somebody less active than you, have no doubts, but I’m not influential of vocal enough to really be able to start a wagon on anybody without evidence, and trying to do it would make me seem very suspicious because I don’t normally do it. Nobody has given me a particularly off putting read either, so I can’t exactly go off of reads.

You posted a lot of words to finally get to this point, which is essentially that you're trying to lynch me just because I'm the closest to the vote requirement. I wouldn't say it's too suspicious since I've done that before on D1 too (as town lol), but admitting to thinking people will see your actions as suspicious has always felt like a bit of a tell to me, since players who know they're town generally don't care as much if people think they're acting scummy.

 

I'm sticking with my No Lynch vote, but definitely FoS Velocity.

In a normal game, the risk of lynching a PR does make me want to avoid lynching like I am now. In this game, everybody, let me stress this, everybody is a PR. Losing one town aligned PR in this game is a drop in the bucket; compared to lynching one of the scum with a PR. The scum will always hit somebody that isn’t them with a PR, so they can capitalize on it the most. Town may not. Lynching D1 here is low risk high reward.

 

I’m admitting that if I didn’t follow through with what I said I’d do that I would look like a hypocrite and scummy. Yeah.. that’s exactly what would happen. I don’t need to be scum to be self aware, do I?

 

 

Losing one town aligned PR in this game is a drop in the bucket; compared to lynching one of the scum with a PR.

We potentially have two alignment cops so we wouldn't want to hit them on D1

Lynching today is not low risk, high reward. I would classify it as high risk with a slim chance of high reward since we are much more likely to lynch a town PR. Having said that, there are of course a lot of power roles to work with. I think I'm leaning towards giving them all at least one night to work. If we choose to lynch tomorrow that's fine but at least then whomever is in line to be lynched can at least share one night's worth of actions with us first which could help later.

Vote Count

Lilweirdward (6): Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance, Finster Baby, Rafay, Velocity,
Brewersalliance (2): Robert2424, Chaplain of death,
Robert2424 (2): Tony Maurice, Wolfpacks,
Rafay (1): Kaziocore,
Ferastical (1): Lyner,
Kaziocore (0):
The Warrior (0):
Ali bin Turban
Chaplain of death
Dontavian
Finster Baby
Lord MK
Lyner
Tony Maurice
Torres951
Velocity
Wolfpacks

No Lynch (2): Lilweirdward,

Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Dontavian, Ferastical, The Warrior,

 
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
There is not a deadline half-majority lynch.
Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 30 at 17:00 EST
 

@ferastical, you plan on saying anything other than making a top 10 list of players to kill or nah?

Lynching today is not low risk, high reward. I would classify it as high risk with a slim chance of high reward since we are much more likely to lynch a town PR. Having said that, there are of course a lot of power roles to work with. I think I'm leaning towards giving them all at least one night to work. If we choose to lynch tomorrow that's fine but at least then whomever is in line to be lynched can at least share one night's worth of actions with us first which could help later.

 

9 of the 17 roles have a night 1 action, and we don't know how many of those the town have vs how many scum got. It's only a slightly better than 50/50 that any one person will have any information to give on D2, and then its also a matter of if their information is relevant or tells us anything, or is even confirmable. 

 

I don't have a plan I'm just trying to put the information available to us on the table so we don't make incorrect assumptions. 

 

Rafay is ignoring me FeelsWeirdMan

 

No I'm not ol chum. I'm sorry it felt that way to you. Welcome back.

 

Welcome too but you're still my #1 suspect right now so nothing personal haha

Also something about Lyner is bugging me so I'd also put him on my sus list haha

Lynching today is not low risk, high reward. I would classify it as high risk with a slim chance of high reward since we are much more likely to lynch a town PR. Having said that, there are of course a lot of power roles to work with. I think I'm leaning towards giving them all at least one night to work. If we choose to lynch tomorrow that's fine but at least then whomever is in line to be lynched can at least share one night's worth of actions with us first which could help later.

There are not just 2 rewards for lynching today. The 2nd reward is some vote history we can analyze tomorrow.

Vote robert

 

Apathy.

 

The best way to solve this issue is vote Robert for president in 2424 and he will stop,the establishment

 

 

What a crappy day 1 lynch choice. 

 

an active one who has been jumped on for a non reason.

 

I mean at least vote for someone like Robert who has declared apathy and goes on inactive randomly.

You really aren't that smart are you?

 

Kinda funny that throughout the whole game Tony wants to lynch you lol

I don't know what to make out of this but this is something that I'll take note of

Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance - clearly against lwl for the right reasons

 

@Finster Baby - You need to explain your vote on LWL because your reasoning here looks like it was a random decision

https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/65084-kh-22-mad17-day-1/page-2?do=findComment&comment=1024016

 

@Rafay - Same as FB, explain your vote

 

@Velocity - Is your vote purely because you don't believe in no lynches and you picked lwl because he has a vote wagon?

 

@lwl - Any suspects right now? I don't see No Lynch winning right now

 

@Robert2424 @Chaplain of death
Your votes were random votes at the start of the game so I'm expecting that you have better suspects right now to vote?
 

Normally I'd go no lynch first day but not sure if he still wants to
play

 

Vote robert
 
Apathy.

@Tony Maurice @Wolfpacks

Okay so I might have overlooked this. What's the context behind this?
 
Ali bin Turban is MIA
Dontavian to me looks like coasting because he's mostly just posting stuff to agree with people
Ferastical is inactive but possibly breadcrumbing for vig???
The Warrior is leaning towards No Lynch

Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance - clearly against lwl for the right reasons

 

@Finster Baby - You need to explain your vote on LWL because your reasoning here looks like it was a random decision

https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/65084-kh-22-mad17-day-1/page-2?do=findComment&comment=1024016

 

@Rafay - Same as FB, explain your vote

 

@Velocity - Is your vote purely because you don't believe in no lynches and you picked lwl because he has a vote wagon?

 

@lwl - Any suspects right now? I don't see No Lynch winning right now

 

@Robert2424 @Chaplain of death

Your votes were random votes at the start of the game so I'm expecting that you have better suspects right now to vote?

 

Normally I'd go no lynch first day but not sure if he still wants to

play

 

Vote robert

 

Apathy.

@Tony Maurice @Wolfpacks

Okay so I might have overlooked this. What's the context behind this?

 

Ali bin Turban is MIA

Dontavian to me looks like coasting because he's mostly just posting stuff to agree with people

Ferastical is inactive but possibly breadcrumbing for vig???

The Warrior is leaning towards No Lynch

 

 

Not really. The lwl wagon doesn't seem based on a whole lot to me but I don't know lwl's playstyle that much to be fair. I have no problem removing my vote since it was random, but nothing really sticking out too much to me.

 

unvote

Vote Count

Lilweirdward (6): Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance, Finster Baby, Rafay, Velocity,
Robert2424 (2): Tony Maurice, Wolfpacks,
Brewersalliance (1): Robert2424,
Rafay (1): Kaziocore,
Ferastical (1): Lyner,
Kaziocore (0):
The Warrior (0):
Ali bin Turban
Chaplain of death
Dontavian
Finster Baby
Lord MK
Lyner
Tony Maurice
Torres951
Velocity
Wolfpacks

No Lynch (2): Lilweirdward,

Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Dontavian, Ferastical, The Warrior, Chaplain of death,

 
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
There is not a deadline half-majority lynch.
Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, December 30 at 17:00 EST
 

Torres951, Lord MK, Brewersalliance - clearly against lwl for the right reasons

 

@Finster Baby - You need to explain your vote on LWL because your reasoning here looks like it was a random decision

https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/65084-kh-22-mad17-day-1/page-2?do=findComment&comment=1024016

 

@Rafay - Same as FB, explain your vote

 

@Velocity - Is your vote purely because you don't believe in no lynches and you picked lwl because he has a vote wagon?

 

@lwl - Any suspects right now? I don't see No Lynch winning right now

 

@Robert2424 @Chaplain of death

Your votes were random votes at the start of the game so I'm expecting that you have better suspects right now to vote?

 

Normally I'd go no lynch first day but not sure if he still wants to

play

Vote robert

 

Apathy.

@Tony Maurice @Wolfpacks

Okay so I might have overlooked this. What's the context behind this?

 

Ali bin Turban is MIA

Dontavian to me looks like coasting because he's mostly just posting stuff to agree with people

Ferastical is inactive but possibly breadcrumbing for vig???

The Warrior is leaning towards No Lynch

Basically it's simple, Robert wasn't sure he wanted to continue, so I was seeing if that was still true.