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[Tony Maurice]

Given the benefit of the doubt, all on torres wagon could be considered Town, but knowing he was for the chop anyway the wagon is bound to contain scum members.

FOS all on Torres wagon especially Ferastical who hammered the wagon

fos on everyone is a little much. I'd accept it if you did kevin style where he categorises everyone

DAMNIT kevin's the mod. 

 

It's good but bad at the same time lol

[Ferastical]

FOS all on Torres wagon especially Ferastical who hammered the wagon

 
 
You're very welcome 
 
Why don't we go ahead and compare the votes on D2/D3? 
 
 

Spoiler

D2 final voute count:
 
Torres951 (7): Chaplain of death, Lyner, Kaziocore, The Warrior, Brewersalliance, Velocity, Dontavian,
Ferastical (2): Torres951,  captainjf, 
Robert2424 (2): Lord MK, Wolfpacks,
Lord MK (1): Robert2424,
Captainjf (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Rafay (0):
The Warrior (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):

No Lynch (1): Ferastical,

Not voting: Rafay,  Finster Baby, Tony Maurice
 

 

Spoiler

D3 final vote count: 

 

Torres951 (8): Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice, captainjf, Ferastical,
Finster Baby (1): Finster Baby,
Ferastical (0):
Lord MK (0):
Captainjf (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Rafay (0):
The Warrior (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, The Warrior, Velocity, Torres951, Lord MK, Wolfpacks
 

 

The names are color coded as such:

 

Green -> The person was on the wagon starting D2 and followed through on D3. (The darker shade denotes people who have been confirmed townie)

Yellow -> The person voted differently on D2, but had a sudden change of heart on D3, following the wagon. (Yes, that includes me)

Red -> The person was pretty adamant about lynching someone on D2 but didn't place their vote on D3.

 

What is likely?

1. People in the green category we're on the wagon from D2, and unless a plan was formed to get rid of Torres that early, it's pretty likely that this category contains people who aren't scum.
2. People in the yellow category had 15 IRL days to make a decision on who to vote D2, but that option wasn't Torres. Within just 5 IRL days of D3, they had joined the Torres wagon. This action is more or less suspicious, possibly indicating scum alignment, but can also be dismissed on the fact that new evidence had been brought forward from the previous night.
3. People in the red category felt for whatever reason uncomfortable or not suited for voting against Torres, most likely because they were aware of Torres' alignment.

All that being said, there still remain two big questions marks considering Kaziocore and Velocity. Since they are still around and kicking, what made you vote on Torres D2 but not D3? Would like to hear it from your point of view.   

 

Also, I remember brewers saying in one of his posts that we know for certain that one scum has a cop role. How do you figure?

[Finster Baby]

VOTE:  Brewers

 

His active campaign against my roleclaim squarely, IMO, puts him in the scum category.

[Chaplain of death]

 

FOS all on Torres wagon especially Ferastical who hammered the wagon

 
 
You're very welcome 
 
Why don't we go ahead and compare the votes on D2/D3? 
 
 

Spoiler

D2 final voute count:
 
Torres951 (7): Chaplain of death, Lyner, Kaziocore, The Warrior, Brewersalliance, Velocity, Dontavian,
Ferastical (2): Torres951,  captainjf, 
Robert2424 (2): Lord MK, Wolfpacks,
Lord MK (1): Robert2424,
Captainjf (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Rafay (0):
The Warrior (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):

No Lynch (1): Ferastical,

Not voting: Rafay,  Finster Baby, Tony Maurice
 

 

Spoiler

D3 final vote count: 

 

Torres951 (8): Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice, captainjf, Ferastical,
Finster Baby (1): Finster Baby,
Ferastical (0):
Lord MK (0):
Captainjf (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Rafay (0):
The Warrior (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, The Warrior, Velocity, Torres951, Lord MK, Wolfpacks
 

 

The names are color coded as such:

 

Green -> The person was on the wagon starting D2 and followed through on D3. (The darker shade denotes people who have been confirmed townie)

Yellow -> The person voted differently on D2, but had a sudden change of heart on D3, following the wagon. (Yes, that includes me)

Red -> The person was pretty adamant about lynching someone on D2 but didn't place their vote on D3.

 

What is likely?

1. People in the green category we're on the wagon from D2, and unless a plan was formed to get rid of Torres that early, it's pretty likely that this category contains people who aren't scum.
2. People in the yellow category had 15 IRL days to make a decision on who to vote D2, but that option wasn't Torres. Within just 5 IRL days of D3, they had joined the Torres wagon. This action is more or less suspicious, possibly indicating scum alignment, but can also be dismissed on the fact that new evidence had been brought forward from the previous night.
3. People in the red category felt for whatever reason uncomfortable or not suited for voting against Torres, most likely because they were aware of Torres' alignment.

All that being said, there still remain two big questions marks considering Kaziocore and Velocity. Since they are still around and kicking, what made you vote on Torres D2 but not D3? Would like to hear it from your point of view.   

 

Also, I remember brewers saying in one of his posts that we know for certain that one scum has a cop role. How do you figure?

 

 

I'd have to dig out the relevant posts but basically someone claimed to have watched the person who was killed N1 and nobody visited, therefore it had to be someone with a Ninja ability, which only the alignment cops have. that's if we are believing the watchers claim (I dont recall who claimed that.)

[brewersalliance]

VOTE: Brewers

His active campaign against my roleclaim squarely, IMO, puts him in the scum category.

You claimed alignment cop. Scum clearly has an alignment cop. There are two alignment cops in the game. Therefore there is a 50% chance you are scum lol
@cod it was tony. He was a voyer and he did not detect the kill ability used on lww. Therefore a ninja ability was used to kill lww

So that means one of the two cops is scum

[Ferastical]

I'd have to dig out the relevant posts but basically someone claimed to have watched the person who was killed N1 and nobody visited, therefore it had to be someone with a Ninja ability, which only the alignment cops have. that's if we are believing the watchers claim (I dont recall who claimed that.)

 

Ooh, yeah, that. I can once again give credibility to that claim though, as I tracked LWW N1 and that's also what he noted.

 

 

VOTE:  Brewers   His active campaign against my roleclaim squarely, IMO, puts him in the scum category.

 

I thought you were sold on giving up this game... now you're back, and seemingly with vengeance. What gives? 

 

 

 

 

(lol brewers has 69 posts)

[Rafay]

(lol brewers has 69 posts)

 

Obligatory Noice.

 

Also do we have an explanation on why 2 kills? A vig maybe or Sk got active? 

[brewersalliance]

Okay so I didn't want to break my 69 posts ...( Guess now I need to shoot for 420)

But.... Rafay the roles are legit posted in the OP. Don't go full robert on us. Obviously there is a n3 vig so that's where the kill came from

There is no sk

And based on who died I think the n3 vig is clearly scum

TW is well TW, a townie wouldn't shoot him blind

And mk was keeping track of all the roles and actions so clearly scum would want him dead.

[captainjf]

Okay so I didn't want to break my 69 posts ...( Guess now I need to shoot for 420)

But.... Rafay the roles are legit posted in the OP. Don't go full robert on us. Obviously there is a n3 vig so that's where the kill came from

There is no sk

And based on who died I think the n3 vig is clearly scum

TW is well TW, a townie wouldn't shoot him blind

And mk was keeping track of all the roles and actions so clearly scum would want him dead.

 

I was trying to think why the vig would go after one of those two. I had actually not considered a scum vig...

 

Rafay...did you really not remember the list of roles that are in the game?

[brewersalliance]

Also with Kaziocore's info on jailing Rafay the other night it does create the chance that Rafay knew there was a vig (could even be him) and he was playing dumb.

Based on the info we have ie. Finster is a cop who has a ninja shot and Rafay was jailed when there was no kill and now this comment, I think we absolutely need to lynch one of the two

I'm still leaning towards finster as there are still multiple reasons why the kill could have failed (doctor, role blocker, Rafay could have been the target) and rafay every now and then does something bone headed that shows he has no idea what's going on (my game with the cop thing comes to mind), so the 50/50 odds on finster still feel better but I am also willing to switch my top suspect to Rafay if more info comes out/more reasoning against him

[KevinH]

DAMNIT kevin's the mod. 
 
It's good but bad at the same time lol

I'm honored.
 

Vote Count

Brewersalliance (1): Finster Baby,
Finster Baby (0):
Ferastical (0):
Captainjf (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Rafay (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, Velocity, Wolfpacks, Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice, captainjf, Ferastical,  
 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday, February 8 at 12:00 EST

[captainjf]

Also with Kaziocore's info on jailing Rafay the other night it does create the chance that Rafay knew there was a vig (could even be him) and he was playing dumb.

Based on the info we have ie. Finster is a cop who has a ninja shot and Rafay was jailed when there was no kill and now this comment, I think we absolutely need to lynch one of the two

I'm still leaning towards finster as there are still multiple reasons why the kill could have failed (doctor, role blocker, Rafay could have been the target) and rafay every now and then does something bone headed that shows he has no idea what's going on (my game with the cop thing comes to mind), so the 50/50 odds on finster still feel better but I am also willing to switch my top suspect to Rafay if more info comes out/more reasoning against him

 

I'm down to board this train (or start it). Rafay, your comment is really suspicious to me and is either accidental ignorance or purposeful deception.

 

Vote: Rafay

[Finster Baby]

VOTE:  Brewers   His active campaign against my roleclaim squarely, IMO, puts him in the scum category.

 
I thought you were sold on giving up this game... now you're back, and seemingly with vengeance. What gives? 

I'm adopting Rafay's play style: Participate very little, vote for someone off the wall, proclaim myself the best.

If Kevin finds a replacement that's great.

[Tony Maurice]

Vote Finster.

 

Obvious reasons.

[Rafay]

'm down to board this train (or start it). Rafay, your comment is really suspicious to me and is either accidental ignorance or purposeful deception.   Vote: Rafay

 

Dumb istake honestly. Didn't read the roles. Bad on my part.

 

I'm adopting Rafay's play style: Participate very little, vote for someone off the wall, proclaim myself the best.

 

Its effective. Lynched a scum d2. You're welcome. 

[Dontavian]

 

 

VOTE:  Brewers   His active campaign against my roleclaim squarely, IMO, puts him in the scum category.

 
I thought you were sold on giving up this game... now you're back, and seemingly with vengeance. What gives? 

 

I'm adopting Rafay's play style: Participate very little, vote for someone off the wall, proclaim myself the best.

If Kevin finds a replacement that's great.

2 Townies overnight  RIP

 

Because of the tantrum/rage quit/ self vote, Finster was the next wagon, so unless something else highlights a better option:

 

VOTE: Finster

[Wolfpacks]

Personally I think Finster is Town and people are using him as a easy target, to me scum are saying get rid of him and get another free night to kill more townies

[Finster Baby]

If you vote for me you're removing a town member.

 

Do what you want, but lynching me means the scum are closer to winning.  *looks at Rafay, Tony, Brewers, Dontavian*

 

'm down to board this train (or start it). Rafay, your comment is really suspicious to me and is either accidental ignorance or purposeful deception.   Vote: Rafay

 

Dumb istake honestly. Didn't read the roles. Bad on my part.

 

 

 

I'm adopting Rafay's play style: Participate very little, vote for someone off the wall, proclaim myself the best.

 

Its effective. Lynched a scum d2. You're welcome. 

 

No you did not.  I led the town to the only scum, and he was killed on Day 3.  

[captainjf]

Personally I think Finster is Town and people are using him as a easy target, to me scum are saying get rid of him and get another free night to kill more townies

 

I agree with this entirely. Finster has nothing to gain at this point by deceiving the town. While I don't necessarily agree with him voting himself D2, to me that shows non-scummy traits. 

 

 

 

 

 

VOTE:  Brewers   His active campaign against my roleclaim squarely, IMO, puts him in the scum category.

 
I thought you were sold on giving up this game... now you're back, and seemingly with vengeance. What gives? 

 

I'm adopting Rafay's play style: Participate very little, vote for someone off the wall, proclaim myself the best.

If Kevin finds a replacement that's great.

2 Townies overnight  RIP

 

Because of the tantrum/rage quit/ self vote, Finster was the next wagon, so unless something else highlights a better option:

 

VOTE: Finster

 

 

Based on my above response, this is super suspicious to me.

 

FoS Dontavian

[Dontavian]

I’m convinced some people don’t actually READ what is posted. I said, I’m voting Finster until something comes up to change my mind. Captain, I’m truly shocked at how horrible your memory is. [url= https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/65084-kh-22-mad17-day-4/?p=1027226
recall I corroborated your claim about voyeur...you watched MK, saw I had visited him and I verified that was true. Now all of a sudden I’m scum because I put a vote on Finster after brewers got him to rage quit...but now he’s back...