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Cuz it's rare for KevinH to vote on D1 and so soon since deadline is nowhere near.
It is odd cuz we've (in the past) made similar pleas and he seldom changes his No Lynch stance.

I'm just trying to get along well with others.

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I'm just trying to get along well with others.


Do you think you are at risk if you stick to voting No Lynch? Why feign or pretend you're in agreement?
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I'm just trying to get along well with others.


That wasn't a problem before so why now?

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Just being honest about my vote,
Is that so bad?

Trying to float Mango's boat,
Any vote that's had.

Now I've ruffled CD's coat,
Made him so sad.

Withdrawing into my moat,
Day 2 will be glad.



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vote KevinH

You're all over the place. You've played mafia long enough to know that it is not about pleasing the other players. Yet, whenever someone even gives the impression that they might like you doing something, you've done it.

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Vote KevinH

On principle,
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How in the HELL is attacking a no-lynch strategy scummy? If that's the case, you may as well think that most of the game apart from you and perhaps Carl Vincent is scum. Please, for the sake of my sanity if nothing else, stop this.

That wasn't a problem before so why now?
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You're all over the place. You've played mafia long enough to know that it is not about pleasing the other players. Yet, whenever someone even gives the impression that they might like you doing something, you've done it.


Actually, I think mafia is about playing with "friends" and I don't mind pleasing them.
Somehow I've earned four votes while trying to investigate reactions to my play.
It's a bit naive to think that my actions are scummy; I'm only trying to help.



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It's suspicious all the votes are coming in just because of Kevin's stance. We might as well just lynch him every game because of his stance.
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Actually, I think mafia is about playing with "friends" and I don't mind pleasing them.
Somehow I've earned four votes while trying to investigate reactions to my play.
It's a bit naive to think that my actions are scummy; I'm only trying to help.

While I, obviously, play mafia to enjoy myself, I also play to win. Changing your opinion/actions competely each time someone disagrees with you is not getting us anywhere.

Am I convinced that you are scum? No, but your line of play simply did not feel right. I was actually debating putting a second vote on theophilos to see what you would do. But then you already unvoted after a little pressure from CD.

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hmm... canucks just gave me some scum vibes... but it's meta mostly. something he wrote at the end of the previous game about votes piling up too quickly... on a player...

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@SJ - was this supposed to be an actual vote?
Cuz it's not bolded if it was.


I can't believe I missed this one.

It was suupposed to be a vote, but regardless ..... unvote


By the way, everyone needs to cut KevinH some slack. Nothing he is doing is scummy, it seems more like evolution of gameplay to me. No need to penalize that by voting for the same person regardless of what he does.
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And we have 2 people coming to the defence of KevinH.
He only has 4 votes.
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8-a. If there is no majority by deadline, only a half-majority is needed.
8-b. If there are 2 players with the same amount of at least half-majority votes at deadline, then I will lynch the one who reached that number of votes first.


I'm the first to half-majority so things aren't looking good for the home team. I appreciate the support from my friends...


9. After someone has been lynched, you can continue to talk.


I just noticed that rule 9 makes play different than usual. When Narsis gets back, I'd like clarification. Who gets to continue talking and for how long?

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By the way, everyone needs to cut KevinH some slack. Nothing he is doing is scummy, it seems more like evolution of gameplay to me. No need to penalize that by voting for the same person regardless of what he does.

To what exactly has his gameplay evolved? He is back at his no lynch vote, so not much has changed. Except that now he is no longer doing it because he feels it is the right thing to do, but because he believes it will give him the least amount of heat. So now we have KevinH not only employing a strategy that is in the advantage of the scum, but doing so just to save his own skin and not with the intent to help the town.

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vote Canucks for pinning me down on the kevins defenders list just for attacking him...

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Vote: Carl Vincent

so he'd show up around here!
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To what exactly has his gameplay evolved? He is back at his no lynch vote, so not much has changed. Except that now he is no longer doing it because he feels it is the right thing to do, but because he believes it will give him the least amount of heat. So now we have KevinH not only employing a strategy that is in the advantage of the scum, but doing so just to save his own skin and not with the intent to help the town.

Is the town better off if we don't lynch a townie? Yes.
Is there information to be gained from someone's voting patterns? Yes.

So while I still believe it is better to go into the night with one more townie, I have decided that it doesn't hurt anything to vote and let those who think it means something do their analysis.

A vote of No Lynch is only more useful if a majority want the day to end immediately without a lynch.

If the four players voting for me think the town will be better off if I am lynched, so be it. But when I am revealed townie, I hope the remaining players will consider the very weak excuses used to place the votes on me and think that maybe scum just might use very weak excuses to lynch a townie.

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Alright well in a few hours I will be leaving for my camping trip. I will be gone from the 14th(today) until the 21st(next Friday). The game will remain in Day 1 until I get back etc. Use the possibly extra time wisely and see you in a week. :)

I believe the deadline is today.

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If deadline is today,

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We need a lynch today. KevinH's wishy-washiness regarding his voting and no lynch is not by any means concrete. It is, however, strange, and worthy enough of my vote for now.

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Don't Days last two weeks? We started on Aug. 13 so we should still have 6 more days. I think Narsis' post was referring to if there was a 7 vote-to-lynch thus it should be Night.

The problem with your change in style KevinH is that it is perceived as a form of appeasement to the anti No Lynch crowd, which could be a scum tell in that you want to be perceived as doing what the town wants.

But on the other hand, it would be quite obvious for you to do such thing. I'm wondering if it's a slip up or an honest strategy.
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If deadline is today,

Unvote
Vote: KevinH


We need a lynch today. KevinH's wishy-washiness regarding his voting and no lynch is not by any means concrete. It is, however, strange, and worthy enough of my vote for now.


Didn't you vote for him already? He's still at 4 votes I believe.
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