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[molestargazer]

BIG MOD ANNOUNCEMENT:
In order to try and balance this new mechanic effectively, some rules will change with immediate effect:
Rule 6: Days will now last 2 weeks. Nights will still last 72 hours.
Rule 8: Discussion after a lynch continues for 48 hours rather than 24. This is merely a correction.

Game Mechanics Rule 5-1 has been removed completely. You will not be notified of how the new mechanic will work.

Apart from this, the game will continue as it was originally planned to.
Thanks for your patience. And I hope this makes things
a ) More fun
b ) More interesting.

Cheers!

[molestargazer]

(^ Oi, you! Read the mod announcement. ^)

Day dawns on the still-airborne ship. Nervously, the passengers on the flight make their way out of their respective hiding places and almost as one make their way to the area where the police officer on board the flight was brutally murdered. After yesterday's failed attempt, some seem worried about what today will bring - but others seem more optimistic that each death only brings the mafia onboard the flight closer to the noose.
A quick count reveals that everyone is still alive!

It is now DAY TWO.
Deadline for today is FRIDAY 4TH DECEMBER.

Edited by molestargazer, 20 November 2009 - 10:25 PM.

[KevinH]

I love the mystery.

So as I understand it, the mechanic to move to an adjacent room for a night action is gone but there is another mechanic about which we will not know.

As predicted, the mafia couldn't risk a night-kill without exposing themselves.

Hopefully, somebody found a special item and hopefully, a cop learned something from an investigation. Be subtle, but give me hints!

[Electric Mango]

5-1. Any players with night powers may move ONE area adjacent to the one they chose to carry out their actions. This is done by PMing their move with their action. RULE 5-1 HAS BEEN REMOVED.

Game Mechanics Rule 5-1 has been removed completely. You will not be notified of how the new mechanic will work.

I'm guessing that anyone with night powers may now move to any space that they wish with no restricitions.

Our strategy was too good to last.

I'm guessing that room assignments only matter for finding special items.

Not being notified on how the new mechanic will work for sure is problematic for the townies.

[junkahoolik]

what was the old rule anyway??

[junkahoolik]

nvm, i see it wasn't edited out...

[Firkked]

We're still in the air, no NKs and a new night move rule to stymie the town's apparently effective strategy of room assignments.

So now what? a rehash of room assignment strategies or down to some serious scum hunting?

/me eyes the same few that were suspicious yesterday

[junkahoolik]

well, the power roles must know something. guess this one is follow the cop. i say nl.

[Electric Mango]

With Mole's rule change, you can bet that mafia will be back to night killing in no time. We can't sit back and wait for them to pick us off. Lynching will be our best option moving forward.

[Aquinas]

I agree with the general sentiment of getting after some scum hunting now.

I voted for SinKon all day yesterday but, I'm not committed to maintaining that through day two. I think if he can post some more coherent and substantive posts he'll be a smaller blip on my scumdar. As for other suspects I'm still evaluating that. I'll pour through some of the old content and see whats up.

[Narsis]

as predicted the scum didnt nk.

another interesting thing is that it is now fairly obvious that mole didn't foresee the plan we came up with. otherwise why change the 5-1 rule? what that means now that the rule has been changed...well not much really. but it does mean we had the right idea to a winning strategy. which makes me wonder more about those that advocated for a no lynch yesterday(except for Kevin who always seems to no lynch).

so now what?

[Falzis]

well, the power roles must know something. guess this one is follow the cop. i say nl.

what's nl?

and we were right no NK would happen.

[junkahoolik]

nl=no lynch

we have already voting patterns from d1 but we don't have a killed townie based on those voting patterns. and since the main reason for voting crazy of was inactivity, the leads aren't good really. but, i'm open to suggestion. anyone have a better idea??

btw, weren't there supposed to be some clues in the rooms??

[Falzis]

I'm wondering if any of us got any items. I didn't get anything.

[CanucksDynasty]

48hr absence notice.
CD

[Martino]

well, the power roles must know something. guess this one is follow the cop. i say nl.

Well, yes, the power roles should know something, but why would it be a winning strategy to go for no lynch and play follow the cop? I would agree with this strategy if we expect the scum to continue to do no night kills. But with the rule change, I believe it is clear that the scum will start killing again. So that brings it down to a much more regular game and I think we can all agree that no lynching and following the cop is a horrible strategy there.

vote: junkahoolik

[KevinH]

I think we can all agree that no lynching and following the cop is a horrible strategy there.

I don't agree.

What if these assumptions aren't true?

• It's an assumption that mafia can kill in any room.
• It's an assumption that mafia will night-kill again.

[Martino]

I don't agree.

I'm sorry. I should have said, I think everyone except KevinH can agree that no lynching and playing follow the cop is a bad idea in a regular game.

What if these assumptions aren't true?

• It's an assumption that mafia can kill in any room.
• It's an assumption that mafia will night-kill again.

The first one does not really matter. We can go back to a division strategy if they cannot kill in any room. I think it would even be best to stick to our division strategy just to be sure. However, the only thing that really matters for the no lynch debate is whether the mafia will nightkill. I'm assuming mole changed the rules because the mafia has no chance of winning if they cannot perform a NK. So I think it's safe to assume that the updated rules will give the mafia a fair chance of performing a nightkill. Should they still choose not to perform a nightkill, we play follow the cop starting tomorrow. But I think it would be a mistake to start following the cop today. We will lose a valuable discussion day and we won't have any votepatterns to use.

[Narsis]

I'm sorry. I should have said, I think everyone except KevinH can agree that no lynching and playing follow the cop is a bad idea in a regular game.

The first one does not really matter. We can go back to a division strategy if they cannot kill in any room. I think it would even be best to stick to our division strategy just to be sure. However, the only thing that really matters for the no lynch debate is whether the mafia will nightkill. I'm assuming mole changed the rules because the mafia has no chance of winning if they cannot perform a NK. So I think it's safe to assume that the updated rules will give the mafia a fair chance of performing a nightkill. Should they still choose not to perform a nightkill, we play follow the cop starting tomorrow. But I think it would be a mistake to start following the cop today. We will lose a valuable discussion day and we won't have any votepatterns to use.

QFT.

also @ junk: no we didnt get any information because the mafia didnt nk. unless you are referring to the item thing...in which case i have no idea.

[junkahoolik]

martino, we have voting patterns. we don't have information regarding a nk. we also don't know if the mafia can move where ever they want to nk. the power roles and the mafia should probably know though. i doubt the cop wasn't announced if he can or can not investigate anyone in the plane. and it's probable that if the cop can investigate everyone, then maf can kill anyone. if he can't, mafia can't kill just anyone, there are still restrictions. i think today we nl and start a regular game of mafia first thing in the morning. as for room placings, i say we change rooms but keep the same partners just in case the rule wasn't modified. that way, if it wasn't, the cop will have scanned both their roommates. we can shuffle them afterwords to provide the power role with fresh meat to scan.