Right, the point of not telling was so people wouldn't know. I wouldn't have spilled it out like that had I been thinking of Firkked. I figure, most people would have compared the assignments with the vote count already anyway.

 

VOTE COUNT

junkahoolik (3): Martino, Firkked, Aquinas

SinKon (2): Falzis, CanucksDynasty

KevinH (1): Electric Mango

Falzis (1): Junkahoolik

 

 

Not Voting (5): Narsis, KevinH, Sir Jesus, SinKon, Kaziocore

 

With 12 alive, 7 is needed to lynch.

Edited November 30, 200916 yr by molestargazer

the only ones that could have investigated me are SJ and Firkked. now, i don't remember Sj voting for me or casting a FOS on me... and i'm sure Firkked didn't investigate me either. otherwise no vote. so, actually, allow me to ask this...

 

whut??

I'm not sure. Its a series of comments from a while ago. I realize it would mean that the cop role would have bent the rules, but who knows. For all we know there is no cop anyway. Either way, I'm sticking to my first to arguments and think there is a legitimate connection to the third.

meh.. ok... whatever...

We have 4 more days to dead line btw.

 

@ Aquinas -

 

Either way, I'm sticking to my first to arguments and think there is a legitimate connection to the third.

 

What is the 3rd connection of which you spoke?

Firkked, Sir Jesus, and SinKon have been prodded.

We have 4 more days to dead line btw.

 

@ Aquinas -

 

What is the 3rd connection of which you spoke?

 

That someone I have in my mind as a possible cop has indicated Junkahoolik in this way. You jumped on me for thinking that meant I must have Firkked in mind but, that is not necessarily the case. I can think of various examples of flavor that would allow for the cop to bend the rules of room specific engagement. Especially now that we know that rule could be (and was) revoked.

I don't think the case against junkahoolik is very strong, yet he has the most votes.

 

SinKon is definitely irratic in style, but I don't find that necessarily scummy.

 

Despite his vote against me, Electric Mango seems to be the most pro-town in his prodding posts but maybe that's because he's a cleverly disguised mafia.

 

Falzis seems pro-town, too.

 

So where does that leave us? I want more discussion that might convince me. I won't support a "just lynch somebody, it's better than nobody" argument.

I don't think the case against junkahoolik is very strong, yet he has the most votes.

 

SinKon is definitely irratic in style, but I don't find that necessarily scummy.

 

Despite his vote against me, Electric Mango seems to be the most pro-town in his prodding posts but maybe that's because he's a cleverly disguised mafia.

 

Falzis seems pro-town, too.

 

So where does that leave us? I want more discussion that might convince me. I won't support a "just lynch somebody, it's better than nobody" argument.

 

Do you have any of your own suspicions at this time?

Vote: Sinkon

 

with the end of the day approaching...

 

a) we need a lynch. the reasons/benefits should be obvious.

 

we need to gain information from said lynch.

 

with that reasoning in mind, let's make this a two horse race.

 

additionally, FOS on anyone that isnt voting at this point. lying low isnt helping the town at all.

That someone I have in my mind as a possible cop has indicated Junkahoolik in this way. You jumped on me for thinking that meant I must have Firkked in mind but, that is not necessarily the case. I can think of various examples of flavor that would allow for the cop to bend the rules of room specific engagement. Especially now that we know that rule could be (and was) revoked.

 

I don't think that is the case here on N1.

Cuz that be a major advantage for the cop to have over mafia.

Do you have any of your own suspicions at this time?

Firkked, Sir Jesus, and SinKon have been prodded.

I think the mafia's best strategy is to lay low. My suspicions are upon those that are not as active as others.

I'm posting in here, but won't be able to contribute at the moment.

RL is killing me.

Can anyone teach me how to play?

Can anyone teach me how to play?

 

PM'd

I'm thinking that the cop could really only investigate his roommates since the rules clearly state that they could only perform their night actions in the room where they in. The only thing I could think of for the cop to investigate other people is when mole announced to them during night that he removed rule 5-1. But if that is true then the mafia should have killed someone so I'm guessing rule 5-1 was still in effect on n1.

 

So looking at this...

Room 4 = Electric Mango, AoD/SinKon, Kaziocore

 

If EM is townie (which I believe him to be) and AoD/SinKon is scum then they should have killed EM through SinKon since they know there's a big risk for SinKon to get lynched the next day and EM is very active and stuff. So I'm thinking that SinKon is not mafia. Well unless I'm wrong and EM is actually scum or even me...

 

But I'll vote tomorrow (I'll reread the whole thread tomorrow and decide if I should vote junk) since I'm really busy right now.

Can anyone teach me how to play?

 

Sure. Hit me up on IRC sometime, if EM's PM doesn't already explain enough.

I agree with KevinH that lurkers are bad and activity is good. Dead line is Friday and I'm hoping now that the weekend/holiday is over that activity picks back up.

 

I'd like to hear from those that haven't voted in particular as everyone else has already made their voices heard.

I'm thinking that the cop could really only investigate his roommates since the rules clearly state that they could only perform their night actions in the room where they in. The only thing I could think of for the cop to investigate other people is when mole announced to them during night that he removed rule 5-1. But if that is true then the mafia should have killed someone so I'm guessing rule 5-1 was still in effect on n1.

 

The whole point of grouping into rooms was to deny the scum the chance to move to an adjacent room and do an action. I doubt that the rules were changed by only telling the power roles but not the rest of us. I'm still not clear what it means when rule 5 is still in effect but there is another mechanic that we won't know.

 

I think we should still group into rooms like we did the first night.

The whole point of grouping into rooms was to deny the scum the chance to move to an adjacent room and do an action. I doubt that the rules were changed by only telling the power roles but not the rest of us. I'm still not clear what it means when rule 5 is still in effect but there is another mechanic that we won't know.

 

I think we should still group into rooms like we did the first night.

 

well we can either group together again, however i think that would be detrimental considering the mechanics change. the only case where it is really beneficial at all is in the original. we may not know whether they can move or not, but it would still prevent them from targetting who they want.

 

personally, i think a max spread would work. except in the original case, grouping together just inst really that beneficial imo.

 

although...if we grouped suspected mafia in say area 1 and suspected townies in area 9, with the rest sort of floating around towards area 1, it might help a bit.

 

VOTE COUNT

junkahoolik (3): Martino, Firkked, Aquinas

SinKon (3): Falzis, CanucksDynasty, Narsis

KevinH (1): Electric Mango

Falzis (1): Junkahoolik

 

 

Not Voting (4): KevinH, Sir Jesus, SinKon, Kaziocore

 

With 12 alive, 7 is needed to lynch.

Edited December 1, 200916 yr by molestargazer

To quote Southwest, "We are now free to move about the cabin".

 

At least that's what I get from Mole's rule change.

 

That said, I still think we should stick to our original plan. That will ensure that the rest of the plane gets investigated and the chance of a townie getting the item(s) vs mafia will be increased. No use having a townie spend the night in a room we have already stayed the night in. Also I don't want our last 3 days spend debating best room placement, I would rather focus on scum hunting.

the thing is both Falzis and Kevin said they didnt get an item...and neither did i. so one of them is lying, or we didnt get any items...

I'd also suggest that we stick to the original plan. Yes, most likely the movement restriction was removed, but there is the slight chance that it did not get removed. In that case, it will be highly advantageous for us to stick to the original plan. I don't really see any drawbacks from sticking to the original plan, so that is why I think we should still divide into the other four rooms.

 

Anyway, I also agree that we shouldn't spent too much time on this discussion. I too would like to hear from those that haven't voted yet.

Well we occupied 1/2 the rooms, if we occupy the other 1/2 tonight someone is assured to receive an item. The town greatly out numbers the mafia so we have good odds of getting the item if we stick to the plan.

 

I don't know if anyone is going to say if they received an item or not.....

 

Maybe a townie got it night 1 but can't use it until tonight so they didn't want to admit they have one and be a prime target for mafia when today ends.