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I mostly agree with this but I still believe that atleast one of the last three people who voted for Kazio was scum. Those votes came pretty quickly (within 2 hours) and didn't give Kazio a chance to role claim. So, with cam177 dead, I believe that atleast one of Aenir and Karl is scum. FOS: Aenir, Karl Till now, all I have seen from Aenir is him agreeing with concerns raised by others OR A vote accompanied with no reasoning. So, here it goes Vote: Aenir

I am not sure about that.. iirc, votes need to be posted in bold and as "Vote:Name Now cam177 didn't follow that.. Its similar to not bolding a vote.. Mod: Does cam's vote count?

Unvote I want to see what Kazio has to say.

Its also possible that scum was not allowed to kill anyone on night 1 (which if Kazio is scum would explain why he didn't know about the possibilty of using the ability on night 1).. Anyhow, I believe that we have a very decent chance of lynching a scum by lynching Kazio.. Good catch EM.. Unvote Vote:Kazio

I agree that Mafia is all about scum hunting. The problem is that on day 1 any lynch will be done based on a whim or a player reaction that can be tagged as suspicious. In this game, Rafay's reaction can be tagged as suspicious but if you look at other games he has played, I believe he has always reacted like this to any vote on him and well.. I take consistency as a sign of townliness. Now, since there are 11 players in the game, I believe that it would be reasonable to assume that there are 3 scum and probably an equal number of strong town roles. So any lynch on day 1 has equal probability of being good or catastrophically bad for the town. As I said before, I am not against lynch on day 1 but based on the level of information that we have atm, I would prefer no lynch.

With Kazio back in the game, I was sure we would have this first day lynch vs no lynch discussion (wb Kazio). Imho, town has nothing to gain from a day 1 lynch unless there is some information available. Since, there was a night 0, it is possible that someone might still share some information that would help me make a decision but until then Vote : No Lynch

Well played KevinH/cam177 (whoever is the werewolf).. It doesn't matter but Vote:cam177

So its left to me KevinH and Cam177. Knowing that KevinH has already decided to lynch me, I guess the game is lost.. (unless he is the other werewolf) Anyhow, because I might not get a chance to explain my vote later and because I owe it to the other surviving townie, here is my explaination I am always suspicious of any bandwagon, and what I saw was a lynch that could have finished the game for the town and a lot of votes piling on very quickly (3-4 hrs), moreover there was very little discussion or reason behind why Rafay was chosen.. We did get lucky and yes that left me sticking out like a sore thumb, but as a townie, I was only trying to avert an action that could have lost the game for the town, specially when I thought we still had a good chance that the seer was the active cop role in the game.

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Imho, if at this time the seer can confirm two townies then he should roleclaim.

I see scum trying to bandwagon. Vote:Alternate_Tree

I refuse to give up..

Well.. if we mis lynch today, we loose. I am not sure if lynching is a good idea.

Well.. this isn't good but we still have a 50% chance that there is a active cop role. Also, since we started with 5 townies, we can't mis lynch today

I don't see a reason to lynch on day 1. Vote:No Lynch

It should be 5 v 2 (role PMs indicate only one partner).

I agree with Imran. Based on the role PMs, it seems the only difference will be that in one case the seer will act as the cop.

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Thats exactly what I was thinking but I didn't want to say it out loud. I think KevinH was trying to mislead the scum

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There are still a few days to the deadline and I am giving karl benefit of doubt because he posted a investigation result that would place him in the list of suspects. I might be wrong but since nobody has placed the hammer vote, I believe that one of you is scum.

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