Imran Ehsan

My quick thoughts. Scums come under pressure. Real possibility of getting lynched. We are now seeing a concerted effort to direct the lynch towards one of the inactives. Rhizo's posts just smells of a whole load of bs. We need to lynch either Canik or Rhizo today.

COD pretty much claimed that he is the doc. The scum will always target the doc first because he can stop their kill. They can't win if they can't kill. Who did you follow last night Kevin? Who did you watch rafay?

The mod hasn't let me know the result of my night action yet. But good to 2 scum down.

I am pretty sure Rhizo is scum. Walls of texts to make anyones head spin but not enough quality content. Did he post what his opinion is on Canik? I just see a quick little FOS list where he added Canik to be on the safe side if Canik turns up scum. He is trying too hard to throw suspicion on Mandarijn as well. A scum never wants too many confirmed towns in a game, it makes their jobs harder for mislynches in later days. So he is attacking Mand which will also discredit the Kevin-is-town result. By the way, can you link where you mentioned you had a VT role before Mandarijn posted his results? So I am fine with a Rhizo lynch as well. I get CODs points. Rather lynch the one acting very scummily than the active one who is at least posting somewhat reasonable justifications. Also there is the added benefit of no PR will get lynched if Rhizo is in fact town. I think both Lyner and COD are townies fighting amongst each other at this point but oif course I may be wrong and we will only know for sure once we lynch either Rhizo or Canik because people have been taking sides with their lynches. So at kevin and others voting for Avater, your reasons are sounds as well to take out the lurker who is probably scum, but I think we will get more info to base our lynch on the next day by lynching either Rhizo or Canik.

Godfather will return the result Godfather. So either Rhizo is a mafia goon or a VT. I dont think another person claiming VT should clear Rhizo. If there are 5 scum one of them can easily claim a VT role to clear himself and Rhizo. So we still dont know for sure and imo dont have enough info to lynch Rhizo yet. But he should not be cleared as a confirmed town just because he returned the result "Vanilla". In a couple of days we will see more deaths (lynching and night kills) and if townies get killed we can see if they were VT or not which. If not it closes the noose around Rhizo. If a dead VT turns up it clears him to some extent. If we lynch Canik today and he turns up scum this will also be an indication that Rhizo is probably scum.

That does add up with my assessment on D1 Rhizo and Shah came attacking out at me for very flimsy reasons followed by a quick vote on me too from FB. They were planing for a quick lynch of one of the most active townie players. When that failed they tried to get Lyner lynched. Now, with FB voting for Canik as well, we have the scenario of: 1. Canik-Rhizo-FB are all scum with FB trying to buss as pointed by Lyner. In this case we may see Rhizo coming out to vote for Canik as well, Canik being the sacrficial goat. or 2. Rhizo-Canik are scum with FB being a townie who just goes with the flow wherever the votes are flowing. This is actually consistent with his last game as well. 3. Rhizo-FB are scum with Canik being townie. I dont buy this because the attack on me by Rhizo and Shah was too well coordinated. Point to note. All these attacks came at me when I accused Avater of bandwagoning. So he may as well be their partner.

We have seen no vanilla townies yet. So I would definitely not put him in townie category yet. Whether he is really a VT or a mafia goon with no ability (other than killing) remains to be seen.

Can you please reveal what exactly you got from investigating Rhizo. If you got No Result then it will probably indicate he is scum. If you get killed at night we will never be sure about Rhizo's alignment specially if he is a Godfather. If he is a VT the scum will not target him, so there is no reason to hide what you found unless you found that he has a very powerful role like a Cop or Doc. Other than that we need to know exactly what you got. The following should be helpful.

How convenient. Even if you were just a motion tracker, seems you would have something to report.. Pretty good theory. Assuming what Mandarjin says is true, and 3 on that wagon are confirmed towns. What do you think about Lyner not having any info after 2 nights? Even a motion tracker should have something to report, am I wrong? It's been a while since I've played, don't remember all the roles. Is there a weaker investigatory one that might have turned up 0 useful info so far? Your pushing to find what his role is pretty scummy tbh. In this game we have so far seen 2 dead townie, both with power roles. We have kevin with a claimed power role (pretty useless but still not VT), we have mandy with a PR and potentially Rhizo with a PR. These all point to a role madness game where everyone has a power role but most probably with the majority with modifiers attached to them such as odd/even or x-shot. So everyone has a power role and there is no point revealing one's role unless they have something useful to add like what mandy did. So a normal townie should not reveal his role when he has nothing to reveal because this only helps the scum. Why so? Because then scum plan their night actions accordingly and narrow out the possibilities of who the cop or doc may be so that they dont waste their night kill like they did last night. Your attempts to make Lyner reveal his role does not reflect a townie trying to help the town imo. Couple that with Shah's posts, you have not done anything to convince me otherwise that you are not a scum. Vote: Canik This is in addition to my theory that at least 2 scum were on the Lyner wagon which I have posted earlier. If you turn up scum I believe this will also reveal Finster as your scum buddy. So lynching you gives a lot more info to town then not lynching you unless new information comes to light today. BTW, I also had the opinion that Rhizo was also working with you but I believe Mandarijn's claim so I am gonna trust him when he says Rhizo is probably town so I will withdraw my earlier suspicion of him unless new info comes to light. But for now if you turn up scum there is a vey good probability Finster is also scum and also a good probability of Avater.

If Lyner was scum, his scum buddies would not have allowed a townie (Mandarijn) to cast the deciding lynch vote. They would have have jumped in a lot earlier to lynch Kaz. So they were fine with either Lyner or Kax getting lynched, probably preferring Lyner over the inactive Kaz. So I am pretty sure Lyner is not scum. We need to look more closely at those who were pushing hard for his lynch.

You should read this.

Good gambit by KH. Seems like the scum got fooled by it as well. Looking at the people on the Kaz lynch wagon and assuming Mandarijn is telling the truth (i am pretty sure he is, scum wont confirm anyone as town), we can safely say there were no more than 1 scum on that wagon, if any. I would say there were at least 2 scum on the Lyner wagon if Lyner is not scum. They probably thought Lyner will be a better lynch than the inactive Kaz but did not want to put the hammer vote on him, which resulted in the townie Mandarijn hammering the lynch vote on Kaz instead of Lyner.

Yeah true. Actually a SK is terms of the theme of the game doesnt make sense as well. A vigilante then maybe who did not use his action on N1. If there are no more than 1 kill on the following nights we will know for sure anyway.

There's probably 5 scum and 1 sk

ToJ = Tower of Joy where Ned and team fights the 3 Kingsguard guarding Lyanna. Part of it is in the trailer.

Finster is following around voting for whoever Shah/Canik votes. Shah/Canik-Rhizo-FB are all working in tandem.

As far as I remember ovidsidios played that game. are you guys the same person? lol

By the way, I dont remember playing any games with you so what are you basing this off?

Shah's last posts if anything made him look more scummy. Canik's posts and accusations are much better and at least based on some info that can derived from posts made in this game. However, a new player does not mean that a players role has changed. Its probable that Canik is playing a lot better as scum than Shah was. He just has to do a lot of back-pedalling (from shah's posts) which he is already doing and damage control to climb out of the hole that Shah had dug for him. That is if I am correct in my assumption that Shah is scum. So even though Canik's posts make sense, I am not gonna follow any lead he is throwing out until I am convinced otherwise that shah was not scum. But his attempts at scum-hunting are commendable so I will see if he can actually contribute in the later days to the town. Unvote I am going to vote for my next most suspicious player in my short-list. Vote: Rhizoctonia Ample evidence was provided in my earlier posts regarding his scummy behavior.

Jons revival was pretty underwhelming. I thought it would be more dramatic. loved the flashback scene. The ToJ flashback should be pretty awesome as well.

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/42450-misfit-game-thread/page-11?do=findComment&comment=680740 He's 2 for 2. lol..I had forgotten that game. Seems like I was a follower in that game and followed someone making a kill on N1 as well. If that trend of coincidence continues Robert will never be heard from again in this game. :o :riot:

Nothing from Robert is disappointing. Another case of a MOD killing a game for no reason?

Hm.. I didn't want scum to target me but now its the town doing the killing. You had no reason to claim the commuter role. You were the only person to have claimed a role in this game without any need for it. So your excuse is false.

Well I asked you with an open mind why you wouldnt recommend the strategy of Fermion shooting you. You couldn't give any valid reason. So I guess you are now claiming you are either a townie who lied about the role (in that case read this) or that you had an 1-shot ability which you used up (which still does not justify you reason for lying because scum will target people with actual power roles). I will now explain why the strategy you were proposing is not in the best interest of the town. You want the tracker to track you and the follower to follow either SM or iSoc. So when both these results come out negative, you say the 3rd person is confirmed scum (SM if iSoc was followed or iSoc if SM was followed). But of course this strategy is not in the best interest of the town because what if you are a scum yourself and your scum buddy is not either SM or iSoc (its Rafay). So your buddy (Rafay) does the kill while you point the finger at either SM or iSoc.

OK. So you are saying the scum is more likely to kill you at night before killing the doc, tracker, follower, vigilante etc. Got it.