Imran Ehsan

Hooray. Perefct win! All lynches hit scum or SK. So great work guys. Can we have a reveal of the night actions?

Very interesting setup. Townies have 4 power actions. This means the townies with power roles really need to pay attention to what we are posting and not go around using their actions every night (god..I hope rafay isnt one of those with a PR). They need to hold back and conserve their actions to be used at the most opportune times. For Night 1, - the Vigilante should not be using his power. He has a higher probability of hitting town shooting in the dark than with some info. - the jailkeeper should not be using his power as well. He has a chance of blocking the cop. Jailing the framer and role cop also gives little benefit to the town for now as chance of framer and cop hitting the same target is very low and chance of role cop targetting a VT is also high. - the cop should be using his power. The decision to who he should target should be based on posting patterns and scumminess indicators from D1. For example, my BS detector meter kept on going off the charts every time Rhizo posted in the last 2 games I played with him. Look for such signs and target him. So that will take up only 1 out of the 4 power actions we have, leaving 3 for the later days. On Day 2 we will re-evaluate the results from D1 and N1 and consider our options again as to what actions to take next. For Day 1, we need to lynch. We lynch the lurkers. As I have already pointed out town and specially the townies with power role really need to pay attention to this game. If you are a town and too busy to play, let the Mod know right now that you are not available so that a replacement can be found. Dont just stay around and do nothing ruining the game for everyone. In that vein, Vote: Whitebeard 0 posts as of yet.

Personally I think isocialism is more scummy than you. But we need a lynch today and others are leaning more towards you being scum. if rafay is town than either you or isoc is scum.

This was a pretty awesome episode. Much better than the last one. Dany burning all the khals..pretty awesome..didnt see that coming. I knew she will take control of the khalasars but thought they will fall in line after they see the dragon being controlled by Dany. Dany will not care about the slavers anymore. She has the khlasars under her thumb. She will take them and finally invade Westeros. And yeah, seems like the Vale army will be supporting Jon/Sansa led wildling army. They have not been involved in any wars so they will have large numbers. The show will probably ignore the fact that Jon is leading a wildling army which will turn the northern houses against them. Some minor finery and how to deal with them are in the books, but the show takes a direct path to what needs to happen at the expense of side issues. So we will be seeing a fight at Winterfell between Boltons/karstarks and Jon/wildlings/vale army and probably some northern houses. After the boltons get wiped out, it will be time for the Wall to fall and the dead to come walking. That will probably happen at the end of the season along with Dany landing in Westeros with her army. Little finger has only one intention. More power. He is attempting to take control of the North along with the Vale that he already controls.

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If you are a townie consider it a sacrifice for the greater good (of the townies winning).

Ok then. Unvote Vote: SM Lets get this day over with. Probably will take Robert another week to get around to it.

New thread for every episode and then merge the old ones into one thread when a new episode comes out. I have spoken.

When you watch someone you send your action to the Mod as in "Target Kevin" or "Watch Kevin". How do you make an "innocent mistake" by saying you watched Mandarijn. I mean for sure who I targetted every night, because I actually had to type it out and PM it to mod. You make mistakes when you are making up a story. I always said his N2 action is fine, but his N1 is not. Firstly, he posted a result that s not new. Mandarijn revealed before he was killed that he used his action on Kevin. So Rafay may be just using that bit of info to consolidate his Watcher claim. Secondly, I believe there is a scum JOAT, as Robert posted that a TOWN JOAT has been killed. Thats not much but that may indicate Rafay using his Watch ability on N2 as one of JOAT actions and making up his N1 action by using info that is already available. So either Rafay is a really bad townie by revealing wrong info of who he watched on N1 or he is a scum who got mixed up with his story and I guess this also indicates he is a bad scum. Thinking about this a bit, if is he was a scum he probably would have his scum buddies help him fix his story up. One point in his favor is that Mandarijn revealed he saw someone else use his ability on kevin on N1. So it may very well have been Rafay. Another possibility is that it was COD who protected kevin on N1 and stopped the scum kill. Its too bad COD did not say who he protected on N1. @Rafay - My question is did you just mess up yesterday when you said you watched Mandarijn on N1? How did you confuse that when you had to send in the night action to Mod? By the way, if Rafay is not scum it will make more sense to lynch iSocialism than SM. He pre-emptively claim a BP role when all BPs we have seen are on scum or SK. But either one works for lynch today if there is only 1 scum left.

Oh? Why would they not support someone they hate to kill someone who is their direct enemy? Boltons are not their direct enemy. They have all withdrawn from the North after a failed attempt to take over northern forts. On the other hand the Starks have been fighting ironborn for ages (they used to raid the north and the starks used to fight to stop them). Anyway the ironborn story arc takes a vastly different arc in the book so I dont want to give out spoilers, but they wont be coming back to the North to fight a war that does not benefit them.

If you read the books you know who wins the kingsmoot. I doubt the TV show will divert that much there from the book. I dont think Robb legitimized Jon in the show.

Greyjoys wont support Starks..lol They hate them. Theon doesnt have any pull with the ironborn and specially not now when he is hardly a man. Its possible some other northern houses will support Jon but it will probably be because of Sansa. Bastads dont get much respect or value in that world. The hill tribes will also probably support them, but if Jon is leading a wildling army most houses and hill tribes will turn against him. They have been fighting wilding raids for decades.

Ep 03 was pretty boring apart from the ToJ fight. Thoughts on what Jon's next move will be? My thinking is he will decide to go and avenge his brothers. The wildlings will follow him. But as it stands they will get owned pretty bad. Ramsay has his own army along with the Umbers and the Karstarks. Dont think the wildlings will be match for trained fighters while also being outnumbered. Those are not spoilers. The book hasn't gone up to that point yet. So its all conjecture at this point. I dont think Rickon will survive in the days to come. With his direwolf dead it doesnt bode too well. But well Sansa is still around so we will see. I think in the end, Bran will return to rule Winterfell. He was told that he will leave the cave eventually so he is not gonna end up like Bloodraven stuck inside a tree.

If we are thinking Occam's Razor, Rafay should be lynched. I tracked him visiting COD. COD turns up dead. Why do we need to assume there is a ninja in the game ignoring the obvious solution that Rafay is a scum who is lying. He was caught lying yesterday as well and refuses to give explanations for that still.

Rafay has been intentionally avoiding my question while pushing for SMs lynch. Unless I get a clear answer to my question I will assume he is scum and should therefore be lynched. If he is scum and the game still isnt over after we lynch him, then kevin is his scum buddy. If Rafay is not scum its either iSoc or SM who are scum. We need to lynch Rafay first to make sure Rafay-Kevin scum team does not slip in a win.

Way to ignore my question. Vote: Rafay ALSO TIME EXTENSION REQUEST

I watched Kevin on N1 and he was visited by Mandarijn. I think there maybe a ninja among us like Kevin said who I can't track..... He was the godfather. I think they can't be tracked....? SM was inactive and Kevin is always active so either one of them. Vote: KevinH Lets c whr this goes I watched Mand and Imran during night t see who visited them. These ppl visited them. How do you explain that?

If Rhizo is not scum then he is a VT. Why would the scum wagon together to lynch a VT when there are better options of Canik or d3mon with probably power roles?

ISocialism being clueless as usual. Rhizome is scum and needs to be lynched.

What's your problem? You have been taking pot shots at me in every game for no reason.

That was my thinking before inconsistencies in Rafay's reveals. It is possible scum decided to sacrifice TW. d3mon wasnt looking too scummy before I caught him in his false commuter claim and with Rafay hammering home the lynch on a scum he would look very townie. d3mon was already pushing for lynches on SM and iSoc on later days before he got caught. He kept on saying how town will easily win this if TW is scum. So if TW was made to sacrifice, they would be 2 vs 5 town today (they didnt count on Fermion shooting dead one of them). Then we lynch say SM. She turns up town. We go to night, another townie dead. Then next day its 2 scum vs 3 town. d3mon then pushes for a lynch on iSoc saying since SM wasnt scum then it must be iSoc. With that mislynch scum would have won. and the TW sacrifice would have worked because Rafay would stay in the clear and with the cop dead no one could have confirmed d3mons alignment. So either Rafay is scum. or one of iSoc or SM is scum. Also that role is very very uncommon. The first time I saw it was in the last game. To have the same rare role in 2 consecutive games sounds unlikely.

Watched COD. Nobody visited him which I find surprising. Its either SM or Kevin. That's just me.... So you are saying no one visited COD except you but he mysteriously turned up dead? Who did you watch on n1?

Lets look at one of Rhizo's claims. In reply to this Rhizo posts: And then goes on a spin on how Mandarijn is probably scum. So he is picking up on Yehom's thoughts of whether Mand can be false claiming. Claims he came out as a VT though he does not clarify whether this was prior to Mands claim or later, but posts a wall of text on how Mand can be scum. Now he is saying: But you did say you "already came out as a Vanilla Townie in earlier reply." If you did not post anywhere that you were a VT before Mand revealed it, then you should have known that Mandarijn's role claim is not false. There was no way he could have known you were a VT if you had not posted about it anywhere earlier unless he used the Role Cop ability on you. But you still go on a lengthy argument trying to prove how Mandarijn is scum. So even knowing he is probably a Role Cop you still try to paint him as scum. Now when you have been called out to show where you had posted earlier that you had a VT role you backpedal like crazy and withdraw your accusation. lol..this is too funny. Unvote Vote: Rhizoctonia I still think Canik has a high probability of being scum but there is more info pointing towards Rhizo at the moment.

Why the change of heart regarding kevin?

looks very interesting. /in