Lyner

Vote: Rafay

Scums're playing the inactive card iSoc have you role claimed yet?

Peeped iSoc, no result

Yehom? Why'd scum pick Yehom lol So who did you choose last night, Roq? The rest of the suspects: Avater, Rafay, Robert, iSoc

I want to hear Rhizo's opinion since he supported 'no lynch day 1' a few days ago

Ah true, I forgot, forget that one then

Oh so Robert did reach half majority, no need for extension then Well Rhizo, if you don't agree that lynching Robert will benefit town then the only choice is 'No Lynch', no?

Then I'd give townie points for those who're on Robert wagon for making a stance and trying to find scums, and I'd suspect those who're avoiding to votes on either major wagon to lower his profile. We pressure lurkers if nobody active were suspicious enough for the next days, as you can see Rafay goes away again after we stopped pressuring him Anyway we're reaching deadline and I think there is no-one who reaches half majority? Can we have an extension since Canik replaced Fermion? Vote: No Lynch TW and Rhizo feels a bit scummy right now

I see 2 risks: 1. If Finster is town, this scenario means we lost a total of 3 towns tomorrow, Scums may win the game 2. Scum may have a JOAT that has a one-shot kill ability, which means in addition of killing with 'faction kill' ability, they may kill another person using 'JOAT kill' ability on one night. In case we're really unlucky, we got both risk 1 and risk 2, which means a certain defeat for town, but the chances of that happening is pretty unlikely IMO, but you asked Roq will be targetted tonight by scum, that I'm pretty sure

if anyone has tracking abilites they should tell us now

You got no infos from night?

Excuse me sir but that is a subjective evaluation of yours On my perspective he is not any more helpful than you or me or anyone else except those who post fluff or just outright inactive, we've done what we can on day one and I'm content with my play for now Now we just wait for the scum to put the last vote on either wagons: Fermion (3): Imran Ehsan, Lyner, The Warrior, Robert2424 (3): Mandarijn, Rafay, Chaplain of Death, I wish you luck for my wagon, I'll keep this move of yours in mind for the next days So what's helpful from your perspective? I'd really like to know, since you imply noone has done anything helpful yet (because let's say 7-8 people that are participating in the current discussion can't be equally helpful) . And if we've all done nothing helpful, why are you content with your play? Us ganging up on some inactive guy does not spell success for me as far as D1 is concerned. Especially since there's not much to do at night (on top of that 2 guys are missing and if one of them happens to be a cop we're in trouble). We could probably do better (though I can't blame anyone for that). Oh, and I'm not expecting (or willing) to go far on this wagon. For now I'm just trying to determine whether you're town on not . Not any more helpful than the others, not 'not helpful'. This is day one and nobody knows nothing, any posts made are not significant unless it's about strategizing the night plan or trying to lynch someone, we've done both. The only helpful things to do now is not to be inactive and vote Eh I disagree, I don't think we can lynch a scum on day one, so the point of the wagon is to just made some 'lines' for future reference

Mandarijn is one of the perfect example, his last post is at 22 May 2016 and he has the same posts count as me, moreover, he's active and posting at the other mafia(we meta now) so it is a deliberate move. I'm sure we can find more examples but come on, you need better reasons than that to accuse me Nah, I don't think it's a good example at all. You were supposed to show someone who "is just floating around, basically doing nothing, just making sure to show up from time to time" and your only argument is that he's not posted here for a few days ? Also so far Mandarjin's post were a much better quality than yours (meaning more substantial and helpful to the town). He definitely wasn't floating around, he was among those that were trying to build a good strategy for the town. But I'm sure you can find someone else (unless you want continue to debate on Mandarjin's posts) Excuse me sir but that is a subjective evaluation of yours On my perspective he is not any more helpful than you or me or anyone else except those who post fluff or just outright inactive, we've done what we can on day one and I'm content with my play for now Now we just wait for the scum to put the last vote on either wagons: Fermion (3): Imran Ehsan, Lyner, The Warrior, Robert2424 (3): Mandarijn, Rafay, Chaplain of Death, I wish you luck for my wagon, I'll keep this move of yours in mind for the next days

Mandarijn is one of the perfect example, his last post is at 22 May 2016 and he has the same posts count as me, moreover, he's active and posting at the other mafia(we meta now) so it is a deliberate move. I'm sure we can find more examples but come on, you need better reasons than that to accuse me

Your scum grouping is a mess, Manda First I confirmed Roq's claim, that means if Roq is scum then I am scum too. But Yehom? I pressured Yehom early at the day, and Yehom suddenly role claimed to hopefully 'clear' my name. I don't see how you can group us together. And Canik? I fervently push for a Canik lynch since second day, I think you can safely say that we can't both be scums together, perhaps one is town and one is scum or both are town, but no way we can both be scums. Which means a Roq-Lyner-Canik scum circle couldn't happen

I don't know if I should counter argument this or just point out that most players in this thread are like that

Vote: Finster Baby

I'm odd voyeur On the third day I peeped AbT and got the result 'Watched' Either it's scum or it's CoD, pretty much useless unless others can complement my info Even though we can use Roq's ability to find out which are scum, I think it'd be better to use it to protect confirmed townies, since if he got a scum then he'd die If we lynch another townie today, Roq targetted a scum, and Scums killed another one, it'd mean 3 deaths and might risk the town losing tomorrow Moreso, if we make Roq state who he is going to protect, and tomorrow he died, we can never know if he was killed by his weak modifier or by scum. Unless there is another protection role to save Roq I'd say it's not a good strategy I'd say FB/Avater/Rafay is a good candidate for today's lynch

Yeah he already said he did. So unfortunately you can't use that to really prove something. Your claim does sound pretty sincere though. A little curious how you can confirm 3 things (Imran's protection, Mand's, and Yehom's tracking).. but have limited powers. There have been 4 nights, so can't be even and odd. Guess there could be some other kind of unusual modifier, just noting that this is a tad curious. Yehom's tracking said I didn't do anything last night, of course I know that I didn't do anything last night I checked Imran on the first night, and no about Mand it's just to confirm Roq's statement since it's not a clear one Now you know what I mean by 'I got something, sort of'. It's useless to claim that I saw a protection before today, yet that information is pretty vital today. I'm a bit disappointed yesterday after Roq claimed since I don't know what to do with my info, but now since I know he is weak doctor, that means everyone he checked is confirmed town, I can further validate Roq's claim as a town doc. For the non believer, I kind of prepared for this on day 2, I specifically gave an advice for the doctor, hinting that I know there is a doctor. Note that King Hitler quoted 'Protection' instead of specific role like Doctor or Bodyguard, and I answered Doctor instead of 'Protection' role. I figured that if a protection is used on the first night it should be a doctor, since a bodyguard blindly targetting on the first night without concrete infos isn't a good move.

Fine Since Imran is insisting, let's see what he got Vote: Fermion If Imran is correct on his hunch(he guessed correctly on the last game ) then we got a confirmed town and a dead scum here Scum will not try to bus his friend this early in the game so people that voted early and didn't change his vote in the wagon should be given townie points There is also a risk that Fermion is town, but this is still a good info for the power role than nothing at all It's 3 against 10 for scum, it'd be risky for them to get attention this early in the game I propose 3 options for today: 1. We go for Fermion 2. We go for no lynch 3. Someone starts another crusade on another person

Roq is a weak doctor? sweet Roq, confirm it for me: Did you target Mand last night? Because I can confirm that Roq is a true doctor I'm a voyeur and on the first night I peeked at Imran, the result is: there is a 'Protection' given to Imran So far only Roq claimed he targetted Imran last night so I'm pretty sure he is not lying That means: Roq, Mand, Canik, and Kevin are confirmed, plus me of course The top 7 most posters are all towns, meh I can confirm that Yehom is a tracker too, I did nothing last night because my power is limited

No idea You have to ask TW that, he probably decided to do it that way? Think of how it could result like that or you'd be the top scum on the list today @Mod: If a Role Cop targets Godfather, will it result as 'Vanilla' or 'Godfather'? I'll also add that the reason Yehom's post look scummy is because AbT's statement is before the claim of doctor role by Roq, clear nitpicking And so early in the day? Unless you have infos from last night to back your statement that was so scummy

Yehom just shoot up in the scum list with that one post Also Mandarijn, why did your result of Rhizo turns out as 'Vanilla', instead of 'Godfather'?

I'm not that interested with day 1, spare me We've done pretty good IMO(7 pages), opinions are divided, no major wagon is formed, I think this is enough informations for the cop If anything I'd recommend people to use the vote, if you don't find anyone scummy then vote No Lynch, otherwise pick a target please

You forget Kevin, he might be useful at end game Vote: Rhizo