Could someone please explain to me what FOS means?

Also, I do not worry much about being night killed for being a known townie. I would assume mafia already KNOWS who is townie. (If you are not with us, you are against us, that idea).

Also, I do not worry much about being night killed for being a known townie. I would assume mafia already KNOWS who is townie. (If you are not with us, you are against us, that idea).

FOS = finger of suspicion

 

Mafia knows who townies are but the townies don't know who are townies. Nightkilling you removes a known townie and increases the % of townies lynching each other.

Ah, I see.

Could someone please explain to me what FOS means?

 

FOS = Finger of Suspicion: you let everybody know which people you SUSPECT as being mafia.

 

 

Also, I do not worry much about being night killed for being a known townie. I would assume mafia already KNOWS who is townie. (If you are not with us, you are against us, that idea).

 

Yes, but us townies do not. So let's say now we can be ALMOST SURE that you and KevinH are townies, and you will not be voted upon as possible lychees. If mafia eliminates you, we have one less person we know is on "our side".

 

Allright then, who to vote for? We have to be very careful with who we pick this time, cause if we miss...it's LYLO.

Allright then, who to vote for? We have to be very careful with who we pick this time, cause if we miss...it's LYLO.

To preempt the next acronym question:

LYLO = LYnch or LOse - a day when if down fails to lynch a scum then they will have lost. Think of it as 'game point'.

 

And to expand the "known townies" explanation:

It's not just that known townies are targets highly unlikely to be lynched (reducing our chance of error and reducing the number of potential scum left on the field), it's also that their votes can be treated as safely non-scum; i.e. they will not knowingly have voted for town or avoided voting for scum. This doesnt mean they cant be WRONG... but it does mean that they are unlikely to be picking on one townie after another as scum might.

 

TC's being the revival doctor means that we have now seen two of the three 'surviving' roles from the past round, and suggests the third may also be present. We've now seen Security Guard, one-shot roleblocker, and revival doc. KevinH says he has a one-shot role. That's four roles there. If we assume the third survivor (vote-limited/cowardly lifeguard) from last round is ALSO present, that's five roles. This increases my belief that we may be in another no-simple-townie game.

 

It would be a godsend(molesend?) if nerau can actually identify who killed him, however I'm not sure what nightkill victims see - last game I survived and was never killed However - given that mole was saying town last game had been a little overpowered, I suspect that all nerau will know is who (if anyone) he targetted with his roleblock ability. THAT may be semi-useful, as it could be confirmed that at minimum that person didn't perform the nightkill. Anyway we'll have to see what nerau has to say. Mole may need to prod nerau back to this thread if he's stopped checking it though; perhaps he got a PM saying he'd been revived.

 

I get the feeling the reviver and the security guard were meant to be paired - i.e. if he got killed, he could be revived to still talk. I wish Id known TC had this ability on day 1, that might have changed the scenario for testing d3mon drastically! But unless we have another info-gathering role I dont see this saving much else, so it's probably for the best that TC used it now to prove his towniness - at minimum it removes one target from the list to consider, and it makes the start of this day interesting!

 

-Preston

My role is one-shot and not exceptional but it is different from the other game. I would believe that every townie could have a weak role.

My role is one-shot and not exceptional but it is different from the other game. I would believe that every townie could have a weak role.

Not me. I'm a vanilla townie (as per my roleclaim on D2).

Not me. I'm a vanilla townie (as per my roleclaim on D2).

I mean on D1.

i swear i post already but w/e

 

i didn't see anything just a blurp if you will

 

my best plan would be to look at those who voted for dcmon and figure out who among them are most likely mafia

i swear i post already but w/e

 

i didn't see anything just a blurp if you will

 

my best plan would be to look at those who voted for dcmon and figure out who among them are most likely mafia

 

Did you use your roleblock ability on night 1, and if so on whom?

 

-Preston

FOS: ccabal86, CanucksDynasty, CaoCao

 

If I had to choose now, I'd go with CaoCao based on activity levels.

i swear i post already but w/e

 

i didn't see anything just a blurp if you will

 

my best plan would be to look at those who voted for dcmon and figure out who among them are most likely mafia

 

Share the blurp?

Mole: What's the status of our two main inactives, Narsis and Herodez? Were they prodded? Will they be replaced?

no i didn't use my ablitity

I sent the 2 inactives a prod overnight, neither replied. They'll be replaced ASAP.

 

Mega Catch-Up VOTE COUNT

 

Not Voting (10): CaoCao, AKCPLUTO, Preston, ccabal86, KevinH, CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, reign of terror, TerrorChrist, Nerau

Edited April 28, 201115 yr by molestargazer

I sent the 2 inactives a prod overnight, neither replied. They'll be replaced ASAP.

 

Damn, that's a real pity. I would have REALLY loved to hear Narsis' day 1 mafia theory. Especially since 2 of the 3 suspects turned out to be townies...

I got nothing. I thought d3mon and KevinH were mafia. Maybe it's Narsis and Herodez instead.

no i didn't use my ablitity

Not unexpected, but too bad; if you had, we could have ruled out whoever it was as being the one that nightkilled you.

 

I sent the 2 inactives a prod overnight, neither replied. They'll be replaced ASAP.

Damn, that's a real pity. I would have REALLY loved to hear Narsis' day 1 mafia theory. Especially since 2 of the 3 suspects turned out to be townies...

I got nothing. I thought d3mon and KevinH were mafia. Maybe it's Narsis and Herodez instead.

Well this is interesting; I hadnt expected TWO inactives. We can hope that one of them was scum - I could see them lying low on day 1 once the discussion turned in a direction they liked, and ending up just not checking the forums for a while. This inactivity doesnt necessarily absolve those two (or their roles, if they're replaced) of scumminess, but it does shift them a bit lower on my list - until further information develops anyway.

 

I have yet to develop a firm opinion on who seems scummy on day 2; all we seem to have gotten so far is negative indications for TC and now these two. We have the vote candidates KevinH lists, but I'm not restricting myself to them; it's quite possible actual scum stayed quiet during the debate to avoid exposure today.

 

The only other datapoint aside from everyone's day 1 actions seems to be CD's vanilla townie roleclaim versus the potential for a game like last one with no vanilla townies. I do not yet consider this suspicious in itself; could also be just hiding/preserving a good role and attempting to be a less-interesting nightkill target if he is in fact fakeclaiming vanilla town.

 

For now, I'm interested in seeing what ultimately happens with the replacements.

 

-Preston

@Preston - not fake roleclaiming. I roleclaimed vanilla townie to disprove d3mon's roleclaim. I erred in thinking that the setup would be the same as last game (ie. all the negative roles to confuse the security guard).

d3mon (4): ccabal86, CanucksDynasty, TerrorChrist, CaoCao

ccabal86 (2): Nerau, Electric Mango

KevinH (2): Narsis, Herodez

TerrorChrist (1): d3mon

CanucksDynasty (1): KevinH

 

Not Voting (1): Preston

 

Assuming 3 mafia, the question of distribution is interesting.

TerrorChrist, Nerau, and I are townies.

ccabal86, CanucksDynasty, and CaoCao are potentials that voted to lynch a townie.

Electric Mango, Narsis, Herodez, and Preston are potentials that didn't vote to lynch a townie.

 

If only 1 mafia voted to lynch d3mon, then that means 2 of the 4 remaining potentials are scum. That's hard for me to believe.

 

Therefore, I believe at least 2 of the 3 that voted for d3mon are scum. We should vote for one of those.

@Preston - not fake roleclaiming. I roleclaimed vanilla townie to disprove d3mon's roleclaim. I erred in thinking that the setup would be the same as last game (ie. all the negative roles to confuse the security guard).

Ah, I did not pick up on that as much on day 1. We still havent SEEN a vanilla townie, but your reasoning makes sense; though of course if you WERE fakeclaiming you'd say exactly this too :-p My mentioning that scenario was more an observation than a question - and scum can either try ya or not at their risk. Either way, thanks for answering.

 

Now just need to figure out where to go from here.

 

-Preston

Just checking by to see what's been happening. I'll be back home Saturday.

 

Just a quick thought. Out of the four lynchers I think CD and TC are townies and I'm suspicious of ccabal86 and Cao Cao. I plan on doing an investigation on those two and I'll post back with my report as well as why I think CD, Kevin, and TC are town.

Well, I guess lynching one of those who voted for d3mon is the logical thing to do, after all, it resulted in the death of probably the best townie role.

 

So I guess that leaves me, CD and CaoCao as the prime targets, as TC came out of the closet - so to speak. In all fairness though, we must state that d3mon did an very poor job of convincing us he was townie. First, he starts making some very specific accusations (TC being THE janitor), then when we question him, he claims an important role. Furthermore, first he refuses to say what it is, then he refuses to paraphrase the role PM.

 

Of course, none of this PROVES his scummyness, but, come on, we all know how paranoid mafia games are. When the shadow of suspicion is cast on someone, it can easily become a downward spiral from there, especially if the person's acts seem to reinforce the suspicion.

 

In MY defense though, let me just make 2 points real quick:

 

1, I did not "bandwagon" onto d3mon, in fact, it was the very first vote on him. My vote was the same vote I placed on him jokingly, but as he acted more and more suspicious (at least from my point of view), i became more and more convinced that my vote was well placed.

 

2, I DID bring up an alternative to lynching him, which was ignored. Granted I should have emphasized this MUCH more, it just kinda got lost. Truth be told, I wasn't sure if it would work myself, but it was still out there somebody could have picked it up:

 

But how do we prove him [d3mon] townie? Give him a chance to use his ability, post whatever he finds then lynch him on day 2?

 

It could have been a workable solution. He could have investigated on Night 1, posted his results, then we'd have lynched him. The lynch would have proved his townieness and we could have safely used his results.

On the other hand, I find Narsis' behavior more and more suspicious. He was one of the first to accuse d3mon of being scum, and furthermore he - in total seriousness - claims he that d3mon, KevinH and myself are scum, and all this on Day 1. And when we demand an explanation of this almost surreal claim, he suddenly becomes less active - blaming it on headaches - then vanishes completely.

 

I really don't know what to make of this. Perhaps, he was trying to capitalize on KevinH's backfired Apr 1st joke, hoping to score a quick lynch? I don't know, but it's not normal play, that's for sure.