@ccabal86 - can you please explain why you chose not to protect TC on night 2??

 

VOTE COUNT

CanucksDynasty (2): AKCPLUTO, ccabal86

Electric Mango (2): TerrorChrist, CanucksDynasty

 

Not Voting (3): Electric Mango, reign of terror, Preston

 

With 7 Alive, 4 is needed to lynch.

Edited May 25, 201115 yr by molestargazer

As I said, I was saving it for a possible LYLO. If you think about it, this is the perfect role for such an occasion, because:

 

a, You may protect a townie from a nightkill

b, You may "detain" a mafia, who may be tasked with the night kill.

 

Either way, no nightkill will happen, and you have twice the chance of succeeding.

As I said, I was saving it for a possible LYLO. If you think about it, this is the perfect role for such an occasion, because:

 

a, You may protect a townie from a nightkill

b, You may "detain" a mafia, who may be tasked with the night kill.

 

Either way, no nightkill will happen, and you have twice the chance of succeeding.

Kinda proves my point that your ability is too powerful. And we've seen weak/negative roles to counteract the Security Guard. Just don't believe you.

@EM - Please roleclaim and paraphrase.

Mod: Mole, did you prod EM?

 

Apologies, I must've missed that. I have now. -M

Edited May 19, 201115 yr by molestargazer

Pretty queit.

 

@Townies - don't let mafia sneak in a vote minutes before end of day. Make your vote count.

Vote-Electric Mango for previously stated reasons.

*Looks at the distance, noticing that the sun has halfway passed behind the horizon....*

Thankfully I got back from work before mole finished the day this time. I havent been able to do much more than periodically look at the topic lately - RL work is keeping me more busy than I'd like.

 

While I feel pretty confident about EM's lynch, I am a little disappointed that he went inactive so abruptly like that; feels like that makes it almost a hollow victory. Last game AKC and TED talked all the way until they were bumped off.

 

Anyway, RoT has provided what should be the third vote - I dont think I've seen mole update the vote count despite his saying he'd do so soon - so with the day about to end anyway I'm going to go ahead and provide the hammer to seal the deal.

 

Vote: Electric Mango

 

I feel pretty good about CD at this point - the main one I'm leery of is RoT due to not really having much information about him and ccabal due to that roleclaim. I'm not precluding the chance that scum could be voting for a teammate right now to give themselves a better position for tomorrow. Between EM and AKCPLUTO we've got two scum identified, and we can finalize the third based on how people react over the next day/who survives until then. This game may come down to the wire, but I think we've got a pretty good chance of winning this thing.

 

-Preston

If TC is nightkilled...ccabal86 is most likely mafia. I cannot see why he wouldn't use his ability this time around.

 

If ccabal86 is not nightkilled then he is mafia. I cannot see why mafia wouldn't take him out.

 

If I am nightkilled...it proves RoT roleclaim of vanilla townie. Same if RoT is nightkilled proving my roleclaim.

If I am nightkilled...it proves RoT roleclaim of vanilla townie. Same if RoT is nightkilled proving my roleclaim.

 

That's quite a stretch, even for you. If there is 1 vanilla townie, it doesn't mean there is two.

That's quite a stretch, even for you. If there is 1 vanilla townie, it doesn't mean there is two.

I'm fairly confident that there wouldn't just be one vanilla townie in the game.

I'm fairly confident that there wouldn't just be one vanilla townie in the game.

If mole gave everyone a unique role, I could see one. Everyone but two being unique is possible, but I'd personally think it less likely.

 

Remember that scum sees what you say and can take someone out (or not) to cast suspicion; therefore I dont really see as much point to the "If X dies/doesnt die, then Y must be scum" being said the day before. Only death reports are certain.

 

As the field narrows tomorrow, we'll see who is still here.

 

-Preston

When's the deadline?

In theory, today. but if mole is away, who knows. The lynch is DONE though, so that's finished.

 

-Preston

OK guys, it's deadline - anything vote-wise from here on in won't be counted.

 

Feel free to continue discussion til I get time to sort out night in a few hours' time.

Considering that no one is gloating a mafia win...I think it's safe to assume EM was mafia. And I'll give townie points to those who voted for EM.

Yay.... ?

Yay.... ?

Ha ha...

 

I mean those that voted for EM (pres and RoT)...I will view them more likely to be townies. I did anyways before the lynch but still...it eases any suspicions I may have had on them.

VOTE COUNT

Electric Mango (4): TerrorChrist, CanucksDynasty, reign of terror, Preston

CanucksDynasty (2): AKCPLUTO, ccabal86

 

Not Voting (1): Electric Mango

 

With 7 Alive, 4 is needed to lynch.

 

The sun was going down over the supermarket by the time the townsfolk reached their decision, and it was Electric Mango who faced their wrath.

"No! No, people! I work here! Look!"

He took out a name badge from his pocket, identifying him as a manager of the supermarket - but it was too late to stop the horde of townsfolk, who jumped on him. Electric Mango fell back onto one of the checkout belts, struggling as he repeatedly punched by the furious townsfolk. It was Preston who delivered the final blow, using the card reader to bash Electric Mango over the head.

He slumped down from the belt, and as he hit the floor, there was the sound of a clatter. A handgun had dropped from a holster on his leg and now fell onto the floor.

 

The townsfolk had finally found one of the mafia.

 

Electric Mango, CORRUPT MANAGER aka Mafia One-Use Role Cop, has been lynched.

 

It is now NIGHT THREE. NIght actions to me by Saturday!

Edited May 25, 201115 yr by molestargazer

As the sun rises and hits the sleeping occupants of the supermarket, they all slowly wake up. Eager now after yesterday's success, they make their way back to the checkouts to see if a return to their previous location would bring the same luck as it had the day before.

But it was no surprise to any of them when it seemed that someone was missing.

 

They found CanucksDynasty face-down underneath one of the checkouts where he had been sleeping. In the corner were a few shopping bags which seem to have been a few days old. He clearly wasn't a member of the mafia - just an unfortunate shopper who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

CanucksDynasty, CUSTOMER, has been killed.

It is now DAY FOUR. Deadline for today is Saturday 11th June.

Bah!

Go town!!!!

Man, I wish I had made more of a hassle when I suspected EM on day 1.

 

I guess those who defended him at the time, while attacking CD would be pretty good suspects now, right?

CD is town? Well, I admit, I was wrong, good thing thing I didn't get my may after all.

 

I was protecting TC for the night, unfortunately scum didn't go for him. In my roleclaim, I deliberately left out the part where it states that I cannot lock myself in the bathroom, but I guess the uncertainty was enough to prevent them from killing me....or maybe it's the fact that they want to paint me even more guilty by the killing, after all I led the charge last day...

 

Anyway, we may have caught a scum, but don't forget, it's still LYLO, don't make your decisions lightly.

Ouch that they took out CD; it definitely proves he wasnt doing any sort of a double game, and his analysis will be missed. He gave us two scum though : EM and AKCPLUTO - and that narrows down those who remain to RoT and ccabal, so honestly CD may have won the game for us right there. No wonder scum wanted him out of the way; he would have been about as proven town as TC at this point.

 

In a touch of irony, my ability activated last night - meaning that scum must have used their role cop ability on night 2, so I was informed at the start of night 3. I'll paraphrase the PM:

 

Before turning out the lights you see some cans on the shelves are out of place. You find a notebook hidden behind them with notes and a copy of a shopping list. You can't tell who was being investigated, but the notebook concludes they were an ordinary customer.

 

It's hard to paraphrase some of the words again, but the meaning is pretty clear; my ability informed me that 1) mafia had a role cop, 2) they used it to investigate someone that proved to be a normal customer. Given that we've just lynched EM (role cop) and seen CD killed (customer/vanilla townie), I am inclined to believe they investigated CD on night 2 and confirmed to themselves that he WAS a vanilla townie.

 

Even with CD gone, he's already given us key information we'll need to win this game; he was certain about EM, and now that he's been proven town his being certain about AKCPLUTO is looking very good. After that, we'll have to decide between RoT and Ccabal for the third.

 

Man, I wish I had made more of a hassle when I suspected EM on day 1.

 

I guess those who defended him at the time, while attacking CD would be pretty good suspects now, right?

EM played the game well; it was hard to single him out for suspicion until day 3, when CD's analysis basically proved EM scum. CD is also a good player, so paranoia that he could be scum sacrificing a teammate is entirely normal. I wasn't sure about EM myself until halfway through day 3 when CD pointed out that scum weren't jumping on him(EM) despite the fact it would win the game for them.

 

The short answer to your question is that we can look back and see how our current suspects (RoT and ccabal) defended EM and use that to help build evidence to differentiate between them to try and figure out who is scum and who is town, but that information alone will not single out the third scum.

 

There are now five people left, two of whom are scum:

AKCPLUTO - Claimed cowardly lifeguard, confirmed scum through bad roleclaim that didn't match TC's

Preston - OCD Restocker, ability confirmed that scum investigated a 'customer'

ccabal86 - Claimed Bathroom Attendant, scum suspect

reign of terror - Claimed "Vanilla townie", scum suspect

TerrorChrist - first-aid ex-lifeguard, proven town through ability use

 

I'll do a more detailed analysis of the three scum possibles (AKCPLUTO, ccabal, RoT) later, but here is a first examination/thought dump regarding them:

 

AKCPLUTO: confirmed scum

1. Role name conflict with TC; TC is 'ex-lifeguard' and AKCPLUTO is just 'lifeguard'. AKCPLUTO claimed his role's name after TC used his revival role, but before TC stated his role name. Therefore AKCPLUTO could not have known that role names could be different from last game to this game before he roleclaimed.

2. CD named AKCPLUTO as confirmed scum yesterday during his analysis, and CD has since been confirmed town through death; this adds credibility to all of his statements.

3. AKCPLUTO voted against CD on day 2 and day 3 - did not just suspect CD, but voted for CD. His first vote on day 2 had no reason behind it and we needed to press for an explanation. Further, scum didn't finish CD immediately to end the game when AKCPLUTO voted for him on day 3 (and AKCPLUTO rushed that vote in the beginning), suggesting AKCPLUTO was one of their three votes; they needed four to finish him.

4. AKCPLUTO took over for Narsis, who on day 1 had that list accusing d3mon and KevinH of being scum; the former our security guard and the latter a power role (one-use martyr). While AKCPLUTO is not the same player as narsis, they have the same role; attempts to shift suspicion that narsis made on day 1 are worth considering for AKCPLUTO at this stage as additional evidence.

 

Multiple votes against CD, failed roleclaim, vote rushing on LYLO day 3, and CD's analysis confirming him scum now being further confirmed by CD himself proving town : there is enough evidence at this point that makes it difficult for me to see any scenario where AKCPLUTO is NOT scum.

 

ccabal86: scum suspect

1. Voted for d3mon day 1, and one of those who kept their vote on him despite KevinH calling for unvote to no-lynch

2. Claimed a role that semi-overlaps our roleblocker.

3. Was not killed last night while claiming an unused power role that could block a scum nightkill

4. Voted against CD yesterday, same as AKCPLUTO.

 

Ccabal is looking pretty scummy at this point. His ability is unlikely and (with scum killing someone OTHER than TC or ccabal last night) impossible to prove or disprove. If there had been NO kill last night I might have thought differently about him... but even then it could have been a scum ploy. I am leaning towards ccabal as the third scum, but I'm not 100% on him yet.

 

RoT: scum suspect

1. Bandwagoned/supported CaoCao lynch on day 2. It looked like he was rushing the vote, but the bandwagon was established by then.

2. Randomly bandwagoned on TC's mistaken d3mon vote on day 3 with no explanation or j/k at the time, claimed it was a joke. This could be nothing, or could be a mistaken/aborted attempt to start a vote blitz - on an already-dead target

3. Claimed "vanilla townie" on day 3, the same role CD claimed on day 1 - and the same role scum KNEW about from their rolecop on night 2. And when every other role is unique, why would we have TWO vanilla townies?

4. Replaced an inactive player, so we have less information about him to examine him.

 

The main thing that makes me hesitant about judging RoT not scum is that we have relatively little information about him. He replaced an inactive player which denied us d3mon voting information on him, and after throwing a few accusations/questions around on day 2 largely bandwagoned on caocao and rushed that vote. RoT DID end up voting for EM yesterday, and CD gave him townie points for doing so... but this could have been a distancing vote.

 

The new information about RoT today is that my ability confirmed scum knew a vanilla townie (aka customer) existed on night 2, before RoT roleclaimed. This leads to three scenarios:

1) Scum investigated CD (proven vanilla townie). RoT is town and claims his role on day 3.

2) Scum investigated CD (proven vanilla townie). RoT is scum and uses that information as the basis for his roleclaim on day 3

3) Scum investigated RoT, and that's the vanilla townie/customer my role returned. RoT is town and claims his role on day 3.

 

I am inclined to believe that scum investigated CD instead of RoT because CD claimed his role earlier (and could have been fakeclaiming) and because CD was just a more prominent/important target; I would not be surprised if they were evaluating CD as a possible night 3 victim, and ended up killing him despite his being vanilla town. So that (to me at least) reduces the odds of scenario 3. So if CD was investigated, the question becomes if RoT's day 3 roleclaim was just timing (he waited until LYLO, which is not unreasonable), or if it was scum attempting to roleclaim in a way that CD would not be able to challenge (i.e. CD is vanilla town, so CD couldn't say this is a game with no vanilla townies).

 

Okay, that ended up being a longer first-examination than I'd intended Love these massive walls of text.

 

In summary:

* Unless some major development occurs, AKCPLUTO will probably have my vote today. He accused CD, CD accused him back, and CD has proven town. I can't really see a way he could NOT be scum at this point.

* Between ccabal and RoT, I am currently looking at ccabal as the probable third scum - however I am uncertain now due to the revelation that scum KNEW a vanilla townie existed on night 2, prior to day 3 when RoT roleclaimed.

* Remember that today is STILL LYLO! We cannot afford to mess this one up. This is the reason I am leaning towards lynching AKCPLUTO today, and then using the information from today to help us decide between the two of them tomorrow.

 

Today promises to be interesting as we try to figure out who the third scum is.

 

In the meantime, enjoy your memorial day weekend (for those of us in the US)! Go outside - Ive spent too long writing this already

 

-Preston