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[KH-08] Maintaining Law, Order, and Shallow Relationships -- Mafia Win

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lol..its funny..do you guys really believe someone with the Role Name as COP somehow did not understand what his role was and hence took no action on Night 1?! And then on N2 he targetted the guy who got jailed and got himself jailed on N3?! How many coincidences can you justify?


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I wasn't 100% sure who got jailed but I figure hey maybe it wasn't me, either way it required the Jailer and the Scum/Cop targeting the same person.

I went with the Jailer and Cop targeted the Scum (Montosh, turned out to be townie) as it turns out the instead given EM's reaction to my claim, it is most likely now that he and the scum both targeted me on N2.

The day was boring and I decided to take a leap of faith, this is also my first time ever being a cop as I'm usually just the roleblocker or something.

I thought it was a cop like the 1 Shot Cop or whatever but a Cop had unlimited shots, I didn't think the cop was the investigator since well detectives investigate. 

 

And to put a hole in your theory Imran, I said to the Jailer to jail me but I didn't mean it as I wanted the scum to think I was protected which they would have thought so I could then investigate whose who voted with me when I got it wrong about who was actually jailed. 

If I was the scum and I knew EM was probably going to target me I would have activated my ability but I would have also got the other scum guy to target someone else as there is two scum. 

You could argue I messed things up as the cop but no where near as bad as that as that would be pretty horrible to do if I was the scum.


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If I was scum, I probably would go for the cop if that person came clean. However the scum randomly IMO picked EM to NK. I do find that strange. However, there still isn't a counter claim on CS's role claim.


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With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline.

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I would like to hear from everyone else. I would also like to hear why Imran think that the "actual" cop hasn't counter claim CS.


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Somebody would of countered claimed. It makes 0 sense for the cop not to counter claim and say his/her results. It uncommon for counter claims anyways as ussally scum is one of the two. So without a counter claim I don't see how irman thinks he's not the cop. Unless he wishes to claim cop himself it be different. Though I would think he would of done so already if he was a cop.

So trying to lynch a cop has me scratching my head. Unless you are a cop yourself who you think is the cop and why in the hell wouldn't he/she reveal? Which is seriously beyond me.

Imran doesn't strike me as a noon mafia player so his action is confusing to say the least. If your townie your just being a horrible townie in witch case can cost us the game. If scum. Why out yourself like this?

As far as we know em blocked CS once. Since I think CS would of gotten innocent or gulty if his targets were RBed meaning EM blocked him twice. This is only a theory as I'm not sure the exacting rulling if cop is jailed vs. Target is jailed in this game as Kevin is the mod. If my theory is correct and CS is the cop. CS was targeted night before last. This is only way my theory would work.

The only waight in irmans argument is yes montosh was town. Though others lynched him on a no result night action. CS thought he was scum. But he never said he hade a guilty result. (Or whatever flavoring Kevin wishes to throw in). This however doesn't discredit CS as the cop. The only way to discredit him if somebody else claim ed cop and nobody has.

So only person we haven't heard from is kazio. Unless he claims cop. There is nothing really saying he's not the cop. I'm assuming isoc or lyner would of claimed cop if they were the cop already. I'm not the cop though I wish I was. So we can ask Kevin to ping kazio and see if he's the cop.

So if not I'm leery of irman being scum trying to lynch the cop. The only q is would be his partner. So I'll wait till kazio posts and if he doesn't claim cop imran is likely scum and will place my vote on him.

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Yeah it could be just a mistake, it's still odd since I never put Imran under any real pressure.

I only said funny enough because he was the one asking me and well I targeted him. 


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... exacting ruling if Cop is jailed vs. Target is jailed in this game as Kevin is the mod.

 

If Cop is jailed, he will receive No Result.
If target is jailed, result will be townie or scum.

 

So we can ask Kevin to ping kazio and see if he's the cop.

 

I don't need to ping him to see if he's the cop but I'll ping him anyway.



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I am expecting a counter claim from somone because CS is looking very scummy. When I last posted iSoc and Kazio had not posted yet..so it could have been any one of them. I Soc posted and he hasnt claimed so it leaves only Kazio. If he also does not claim cop, i will admit my mistake and withdraw my accusation. So far everything CS has posted has been very scummy...he even went on to defend against a potential counter claiming by claiming in advance that anyone else counter claiming will be scum..as if he is expecting a counter claim and laying the ground work to defend against it. There was no reason for anyone to counter claim his cop claim on D2..in fact it would have revealed the cop very early for them to kill him at night...while not having enough time to get a CS lynch. Remember he claimed right before day ended...another counter claim then would have meanth ppl would have had to chose between CS and the real cop to lynch. so i dont find it strange that cop didnt reveal it on D2. But he needs to reveal himself today..bc this is the end game..mislynch today and game is over for townies. like I said if kazio doesnt claim cop..i admit i am mistaken..but let see what he says.

 

also  dont see why i should jump in to lynch a cop if i was scum..and get the spot light on me. I would lay low and say nothing like most ppl have been doing this game.


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I claimed on Day 3, today is Day 4. 

 

also  dont see why i should jump in to lynch a cop if i was scum..and get the spot light on me. I would lay low and say nothing like most ppl have been doing this game.

That's the whole point that makes you scummy and why I think you were trying to debunk me as the cop hence me chatting first about another cop role-claiming because this is the last damn day the town has to survive if we don't lynch scum. 

This is the last damn day people, not the second to last day, not the third to last day, it's the damn last day. 

 

You were trying to debunk me as cop on the last damn day, how do you expect me to react. I want the town to win not to fall victim to some random thoughts.

And yeah if I had of known what the hell the results meant that would have helped, I read the link supplied but I'm pretty sure it didn't go into specifics about if the target was jailed.

I would have assumed I couldn't visit him and hence get the same no result so it was pretty much a guessing game for me between if it was me jailed or him jailed. 


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We need Kaz here.



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I claimed on Day 3, today is Day 4. 

 

also  dont see why i should jump in to lynch a cop if i was scum..and get the spot light on me. I would lay low and say nothing like most ppl have been doing this game.

That's the whole point that makes you scummy and why I think you were trying to debunk me as the cop hence me chatting first about another cop role-claiming because this is the last damn day the town has to survive if we don't lynch scum. 

This is the last damn day people, not the second to last day, not the third to last day, it's the damn last day. 

 

You were trying to debunk me as cop on the last damn day, how do you expect me to react. I want the town to win not to fall victim to some random thoughts.

And yeah if I had of known what the hell the results meant that would have helped, I read the link supplied but I'm pretty sure it didn't go into specifics about if the target was jailed.

I would have assumed I couldn't visit him and hence get the same no result so it was pretty much a guessing game for me between if it was me jailed or him jailed. 

 

Really...even if you are the cop there really isnt any reason for me to try to lynch you on day 4 if I was scum. Like you said, mislynch today means town loses. there is not gonna be another day that allows the cop to reveal any info. In any case, time is running out and kaz has gone inactive. So i will ask the mod for an extension or a replacement for Kaz.


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Can we get an indefinite extension, this game is far too inactive to be kept to such a short time frame. 

Of course you can say it will make no difference, however it will make a difference to me and I think it will help us a lot.


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Kaz needs to post for this game to continue.

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Everybody, including Kaziocore, sent in an action for Night 3.

Deadline is tomorrow and there will not be an extension.

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Ok I'm not lynching anyone today.

 

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Now this  doesn't make sense.

 

We have 4 town people

and two  2 scums

 

if we don't lynch we come into the next day with 3 towns and 2 scums. IF CS is actually the cop he will be lynched and no night information gathered.

With no counter claim out there, I can only assume that CS is actually the cop.

 

Atleast add some pressure

 

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Yeah...no lynching does not help the town. if CS is actually the cop scum will kill him at night leaving us with no info on the next day as well.

 

Unvote

 

CS unvoted..which removes me from the chopping block. does not look like a scum move, so i may have been wrong.

 

iSoc did not jump on any wagons..gives him townie points. that leaves kaz, robert and lyner. lyner was very quick to jump on my wagon.

 

Vote: Lyner


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Yeah...no lynching does not help the town. if CS is actually the cop scum will kill him at night leaving us with no info on the next day as well.

 

Unvote

 

CS unvoted..which removes me from the chopping block. does not look like a scum move, so i may have been wrong.

 

iSoc did not jump on any wagons..gives him townie points. that leaves kaz, robert and lyner. lyner was very quick to jump on my wagon.

 

Vote: Lyner

 

 

You just went from scummy to super scummy with that post :rolleyes:

 

I do agree tho that no lynch will just worsen our winning chance tomorrow, today is the deciding day.

 

 

It's either you and Kaz are scum and Kaz just went awol, foiling your plan.

 

The alternative is it's you and iSoc, which is more likely currently. You just need to stall or have semi majority to win this and it looks like both of you have placed your vote, ready to jump anytime.

 

 

Remaining townies, please put the second vote before one of them do and secure the semi majority.



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