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[Robert2424]

Tw was reading but didn't respond? Why you lurking tw?

[Finster Baby]

As always, with the claim FB please state your character name.
So is there such a thing as a even/odd mafia team?

You are PZ-4CO, Even Night Follower

[iSocialism]

I'm still waiting on a character name from FB. Yehom still doesn't seem fishy. I believe you called someone out in a strange way.  I understand the reasoning behind your thinking Robert, but there are possibilities of having a 1-shot something, innocent child, or vigilante. I think you are best to use your energy else where.

 

My town list looks like this.

Robert

Lyner

R2V

iSoc

 

leaving us with this

 

Finster Baby
Electric Mango
Imran Ehsan
Shahenshah
Mandarijn
Perez
Rafay
The Warrior
Yehom

 

9 remaining players. This is where alignment comes in handy. mandy, shah, and FB seem to be agreeing with each other and not really calling each other out. They are mainly against TW. Now we can see who isn't against TW. Not a lot of people are coming to the difference of him, which mean they don't want to have alignment with him.

TW can you give a list of your town vs scummy players?

[Road2Victory]

I'm still waiting on a character name from FB. Yehom still doesn't seem fishy. I believe you called someone out in a strange way.  I understand the reasoning behind your thinking Robert, but there are possibilities of having a 1-shot something, innocent child, or vigilante. I think you are best to use your energy else where.

 

My town list looks like this.

Robert

Lyner

R2V

iSoc

 

leaving us with this

 

Finster Baby
Electric Mango
Imran Ehsan
Shahenshah
Mandarijn
Perez
Rafay
The Warrior
Yehom

 

9 remaining players. This is where alignment comes in handy. mandy, shah, and FB seem to be agreeing with each other and not really calling each other out. They are mainly against TW. Now we can see who isn't against TW. Not a lot of people are coming to the difference of him, which mean they don't want to have alignment with him.

TW can you give a list of your town vs scummy players?

I would have to agree there might be several mafia teams who knows. 

TW and EM seem to be suspicious so does Imran. 

[Robert2424]

If there was 2 mafia teams we have a kill night 1 most likely.

[iSocialism]

But if they were odd and even mafia teams? IDK if that is a thing

[The Warrior]

Tw was reading but didn't respond? Why you lurking tw?

I was called into a meeting this morning and had the forums minimized in my browser.

 

 

 

Well now after knowing the context it is getting more curious. Correct me if I'm wrong but those sentences could imply that "the one who made a kill" is among the people who voted to lynch Leia 

Interesting catch Lyner. This would lead us back to this:

 

 

And also why aren't we asking the ppl for explanations on their stupid vote on Rusken yesterday....

So here is the list of people who voted for Rusken and what we know (or think we know) about them:

 

Samus - Was killed.

Imran -

Mandarijn -

Shahenshah -

Electric Mango -

Finster Baby - Claims to be an even follower.

Perez -

Robert2424 - Claims to be an odd tracker.

 

There are five people in this list that we know nothing about at this point. If Lyner's observation is correct it could mean that one of these people made the kill.

 

There are several people that I am suspicious of at this point:

-Mandarijn still seems to have it out for me and has done very little to make an actual argument why. When challenged on it his response was something like "Only scum would write walls of text." First off, of course I am going to defend myself when facing baseless accusations. Secondly, take a look at any of my Presidential Addresses and you will see that I like walls of text almost as much as Rhizo.

-I am still convinced that at least one of the less active posters in this thread is scum: Rafay, Perez, EM. I have pointed it out several times throughout the discussion and nothing has happened that has changed my mind yet. Their posts are few and far between and haven't contributed much in the way of substance to the discussion.

-I think that at least one and probably two of the people that voted for Rusken are likely to be scum. A couple of those people I have already listed above for other reasons as well: EM and Perez.

 

My list currently looks like this:
Electric Mango - Possible scum

Finster Baby - Unsure at this point
Imran Ehsan - Likely town
iSoc - Likely town

Lyner - Town
Mandarijn - Possible scum, but not convinced yet
Perez - Possible scum
Rafay - Scum

R2V - Likely town, but not convinced yet

Robert - Likely town

Shahenshah - Unsure at this point
The Warrior - Town
Yehom - Possible scum, but not convinced yet

 

 

But if they were odd and even mafia teams? IDK if that is a thing

I've been thinking about this since we learned about the two "odd" roles. I guess that it's possible. Is there any precedent for it? If not, does any game mechanic prevent it from being a thing? Did we ever figure out exactly how many scum are in the game?

[Mandarijn]

My list currently looks like this:

 

Electric Mango - Possible scum

Finster Baby - Unsure at this point
Imran Ehsan - Likely town
iSoc - Likely town

Lyner - Town
Mandarijn - Possible scum, but not convinced yet
Perez - Possible scum
Rafay - Scum

R2V - Likely town, but not convinced yet

Robert - Likely town

Shahenshah - Unsure at this point
The Warrior - Town
Yehom - Possible scum, but not convinced yet

So why do you think Rafay is scum and the others (like Perez and EM) are only possible scum?

 

It's interesting to see a detailed list from someone who I think is scum. I know you're smart, so you've divided your scum buddies nicely.

[Mandarijn]

It seems everyone (of town at least) has a role, so this:

 

I'll claim even follower. I followed TW. He performed no actions last night.

 

confirms my suspicion of TW even more as we already have 2 odd roles in town, so if he was town he would have a role (even or normal) and would have indeed performed an action... Only 1 member of the Mafia will perform the kill, so the others would be sitting doing nothing.

 

So I'm just going to go for it:

Vote TW

What's your explanation of this TW?

[Robert2424]

I've personally never head of an odd and even mafia separate of each other. But it would help balancing if only one of them could kill every night. It's also a draw back in balancing. I personally wouldn't try it but if anybody could figure out a fair way to do it Kevin might be able to do it.

@TW dose fins claim hold weight?

[Mandarijn]

TW, you saw my post, but didn't respond... You need some help from your scum buddies to answer?

[The Warrior]

 

So why do you think Rafay is scum and the others (like Perez and EM) are only possible scum?

 

It's interesting to see a detailed list from someone who I think is scum. I know you're smart, so you've divided your scum buddies nicely.

I am suspicious of all three of these people but Rafay is the most suspicious to me out of this group. His posting habits stick out to me. It seems like he is happily skating by unnoticed.

 

 

It seems everyone (of town at least) has a role, so this:

 

I'll claim even follower. I followed TW. He performed no actions last night.

 

confirms my suspicion of TW even more as we already have 2 odd roles in town, so if he was town he would have a role (even or normal) and would have indeed performed an action... Only 1 member of the Mafia will perform the kill, so the others would be sitting doing nothing.

 

So I'm just going to go for it:

Vote TW

What's your explanation of this TW?

So your first assumption is that because someone didn't perform an action last night that they are scum? There are several reasons why someone might not have performed a night action. We have two known examples already in this game in Robert and R2V. 

[Mandarijn]

Who all thinks all townies have an ability?

[KevinH]

Q: Which Star Wars character works at a restaurant?
A: Darth Waiter





Vote Count

Yehom (1): Robert2424,
The Warrior (1): Mandarijn,
Robert2424 (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
Road2Victory (0):
Electric Mango (0):
Shahenshah (0): 
Perez (0):
Lyner (0):
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Finster Baby (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: The Warrior, Lyner, Rafay, Road2Victory, Imran Ehsan, Shahenshah, Electric Mango, Finster Baby, Perez, Yehom, iSocialism,

 
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Tuesday, February 23, at noon EST.
 

[Robert2424]

I do.

[Imran Ehsan]

Ok heres some info from last night. I was role blocked yesterday. So the scum has a role blocker in their team.

[Robert2424]

interesting. A role blokcing scum would indicate allot of townie powers. 

[Road2Victory]

Rusken (8): Samus, Imran Ehsan, Mandarijn, Shahenshah, Electric Mango, Finster Baby, Perez, Robert2424,

 

There at least has to be someone who is mafia in this category at the very least. I can take Samus out because hes already.

 

Possible scums for me maybe

Shah

EM

Perez

 

Three iffy ones that I think town but could not be who are Imran, TW,  Mandarjn, and Rafay.

 

I believe Robert and Isocialism are town for me. 

 

FB- I don't know if he even keeps up with this so probably a lurker? 

[Shahenshah]

On what basis you throw my name around r2v? If you're accusing me of something, dont just pop my name ok? Give a reason for you naming me. Randomly throwing names around is classic anti-town, it muddles the waters and people tend to loose focus. That's a small flag their. 

 

My Scummie list:

 

- Rafey - Lurking, not contributing, not helping build a case, all of these are anti-town activities and so what you're doing is anti-town.

- Perez - Lurking, not contributing, not helping build a case, all of these are anti-town activities and so what you're doing is anti-town.

- EM - To be honest you have flown bit under my radar, and I'm not sure if you're truly lurking or inactive at this moment. Eitherway, you're not contributing or help build a case and so what you're doing is anti-town.

- Yehom - You were active before, but now you're not even trying to defend yourself or counter Robert's arguments forecefully, it seems you have accepted your fate, problem with that is either you're a scum and trying to ride it out hoping for the focus elsewhere or you're a bad townie like Rusken, you're not contributing anything. You might be a good guy Yehom, but good guys make up the best Scummies. 

 

My Townie list:

- Myself

-Robert: Townie, I just feel you've got bit of a narrow focus going on, tho I mostly agree to some of your view points, but early vote and narrow focus isnt good for process of elimination. 

-Imran: Townie

-Mand:You're townie but your narrow focus is not good for town, reason being, you've already locked youre vote down few days in advance despite new information emerging on daily basis. I do not believe that is constructive to the process of elimination. 

- Lyner: Townie

- Finster: Townie, initially i thought otherwise, but I believe your role claim.

- tW: You're borderline townie at the moment, honestly. For now, Im believing your counter-arguments, but you're on thin ice. 

- iSoc: I havent been able to map you out in my head just yet. 

- R2v: I havent been able to map you out in my head just yet. 

[iSocialism]

On what basis you throw my name around r2v? If you're accusing me of something, dont just pop my name ok? Give a reason for you naming me. Randomly throwing names around is classic anti-town, it muddles the waters and people tend to loose focus. That's a small flag their. 

 

My Scummie list:

 

- Rafey - Lurking, not contributing, not helping build a case, all of these are anti-town activities and so what you're doing is anti-town.

- Perez - Lurking, not contributing, not helping build a case, all of these are anti-town activities and so what you're doing is anti-town.

- EM - To be honest you have flown bit under my radar, and I'm not sure if you're truly lurking or inactive at this moment. Eitherway, you're not contributing or help build a case and so what you're doing is anti-town.

- Yehom - You were active before, but now you're not even trying to defend yourself or counter Robert's arguments forecefully, it seems you have accepted your fate, problem with that is either you're a scum and trying to ride it out hoping for the focus elsewhere or you're a bad townie like Rusken, you're not contributing anything. You might be a good guy Yehom, but good guys make up the best Scummies. 

 

My Townie list:

- Myself

-Robert: Townie, I just feel you've got bit of a narrow focus going on, tho I mostly agree to some of your view points, but early vote and narrow focus isnt good for process of elimination. 

-Imran: Townie

-Mand:You're townie but your narrow focus is not good for town, reason being, you've already locked youre vote down few days in advance despite new information emerging on daily basis. I do not believe that is constructive to the process of elimination. 

- Lyner: Townie

- Finster: Townie, initially i thought otherwise, but I believe your role claim.

- tW: You're borderline townie at the moment, honestly. For now, Im believing your counter-arguments, but you're on thin ice. 

- iSoc: I havent been able to map you out in my head just yet. 

- R2v: I havent been able to map you out in my head just yet. 

all I said was that it felt that mandji, FB, and Shah pretty much seems to agree with each other, and the main target is TW.