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[iSocialism]

Unvote

 

I coming to the conclusion that there is one player who seems pro-town, but is playing the game extremely well. Also if there are two scums two. I would believe both team sizes would be equal. in other words we would have an even amount of scum players ex. 2,4, or 6. If there are two scum team, most likely there would be odd and even roles. Hence the two previous night happenings. If this scenario is true. This would give a well playing player as bigger edge. As he is able/predict/assume to see other players as scum. Which could give an illusion of a scum player seeming pro-town.

 

After day and night 3 is over. Town will be at a biggest disadvantage. Role claims will come flying out.

There is no pressure on me to role-claim, but there are some doubts among other players about me. I see my role-claim as no harm to the town, and I see it as hopefully benefitting the town in order to have people look else where.

 

I'm Lor San Tekka, a Neapolitan. I can investigate one player a night to see if they are vanilla town are not. As I now believe all players to have roles. I believe KevinH is punking me. If though we have one or two vanilla town. I don't think I would find them in time. It's up to the mafia to decide if they rather target me over other roles, or take the chances with me being alive and seeing if I do find a vanilla town.

 

My NA are following

Rusken - not vanilla town

Imran - not vanilla town.

[Road2Victory]

I don't know if that could help town or hurt town or help mafia, but either I hope it helps Town because we are at a point where 3 townies are dead. So are you just a mediator in this conflict? I know the character from Star Wars, she was the same thing, she saw both good and evil. 

[iSocialism]

Will unfortunately, I do think it doesn't help the town that much, besides letting them focus on other players, if they believe my RC. However scum already know who's town and whose not on their team. Though I leaning towards two scum parties. Meaning I have only clarified that I'm not on the other mafia team. If though there are two mafia teams. Town will benefit, because they would want to hit the other scum team first, before vise versa. Also it will lower the amount of town players needed for a win.

[Shahenshah]

Ok, I think we as a town have made good progress over the last two days. The strategy to pressurize lurkers instead of in-actives is working and I am glad some of the townies have gone ahead and have given the necessary support. 

 

With the given information, I would have to go ahead and UnVote. 

 

I would be inclined now to vote EM, but at the moment, I feel he is more inactive than lurking and as I stated in my first post, I have my reservations for lynching inactives because simple math probability means chances of killing townie is higher and so it is not pro-town. I think it's also a target of convenience for mafia and they would'nt mind a townie getting hit like FF was. I'd rather prefer no-lynch over lynching an inactive. But at the same time, there is going to be a limit to my patience on this and whenever EM reads this, he should be aware we're expecting his active presence. EM should also know maybe if not this night, then then the next night, he'll certainly get my lynch vote unless we discover some more pressing and damning information. 

 

Also, given that Samus and FF are dead, given their cop roles, I believe (correct me if I am wrong) than iSoc's abilities are the most useful to us of the known abilities so far, going from top of my head along with the bodyguard. But Bodyguard imo is more protective than investigative, it's more defensive in nature, with iSoc's investigative abilitiy, it will actually help us obtain the information that is critical. So, regardless of a lynch or no lynch, IMO, iSoc probably is now the top priority target for scum and should be protected (hint  hint)

 

Hope youre not ascetic or anything, throwing this out now so we dont goof up like for Samus. 

 

Also, now consider me bit confused on who is what. I will have to go through last few pages again, recollect my thoughts. 

 

I would also like to start discussion on following points:

 

- Can we in anyway start and try to deduce what abilities the mafia may have?

- Can we in anyway know everyone isnt bluffing about role-claims? Should we take everything for granted?

 

Thanks

OOC - Also please know, that my activity will be more sporadic until 27th (We have a huge exhibition coming in RL and I'm the anointed corporate slave to ensure everything goes smooth i.e. Herd all the headless chickens). 

[iSocialism]

I would encourage you to read what a Neapolitans abilities are. It's only if they are vanilla townie or not. So Rusken was NOT a vanilla town player, though a town member.

[Shahenshah]

Oh I see, sorry, for a moment, I thought it tells if a play is vanilla or non vanilla townie or scum. 

 

My bad, guys dont protect iSoc jsut yet, we need to find out who to protect or atleast deter mafia scum from the most valuable knowns currently. What do you guys think?

[Imran Ehsan]

I will confirm iSocialism's claim that I am not vanilla, i.e. I have a power role. I am not willing to divulge what it is at the moment because I dont have much useful info to give and I believe reveal of my role now will only help the scum. But if others think I should reveal it, I will.

 

By the way, I had already indicated earlier that I was role blocked, so iSocialism would have known I am not vanilla so no new info there from him. So his role isnt confirmed to me as yet. But its plausible.

 

Also @shah you are overestimating his role. if most townies have power roles he will get positive results. I guess the only way it may benefit the town is if a scum who has no role had claimed to have a power role.

[Yehom]

I actually don't think that Isoc's role would even help in pinpointing mafia, because they would also be marked as 'non vanilla town'. I could be wrong. Sounds like Kevin trolling us, or Isoc

[Shahenshah]

I actually don't think that Isoc's role would even help in pinpointing mafia, because they would also be marked as 'non vanilla town'. I could be wrong. Sounds like Kevin trolling us, or Isoc

Wait, so whatever iSoc does, it'll come out as vanilla or non-vanilla town?

 

Okay then, Vote:Kevin

[Finster Baby]

LOL Kevin is just the moderator.

UNVOTE.

[KevinH]

Q: What goes, "Ha, ha, ha, haaaa.... AGGGHHHH! Thump"?
A: An Imperial Officer laughing at Darth Vader.



Vote Count

Electric Mango (2): Perez, Road2Victory,
The Warrior (1): Mandarijn,
Yehom (0):
Perez (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
Road2Victory (0):
Shahenshah (0): 
Lyner (0):
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Finster Baby (0):

No Lynch (3): Yehom, Rafay,

Not voting: The Warrior, Lyner, Imran Ehsan, Electric Mango, Robert2424, iSocialism, Shahenshah, Finster Baby,

 
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Tuesday, February 23, at noon EST.

Electric Mango has been pinged.

[iSocialism]

Yehom is right, if I target someone my results will be either; not vanilla town, or is vanilla town. I also don't want to be protected. If yehom didn't protect anyone the first night. Then the mafia either didn't use a NA or we have a doc, role-blocker etc. I think the doc should protect yehom, so mafia won't go after him. Then Yehom should protect an even, or an odd. Or just protect who ever, and leave it up to a guessing game.

[iSocialism]

I'm pretty much a vanilla town, because my role is useless IMO. However, with my beliefs of roles I have 6 on my scum list, and I thinking that there are two scum teams, which are being evenly numbered. So either other 6 or 4 members total. Only one/two people on my scum list haven't role claim, but I heavily leaning towards them being town.

 

Electric Mango - Potential Scum, I want to hear from him though
The Warrior - potential scum, with the accusation of him not using a NA, and him being quiet right now.
Yehom - Town. I believe the role
Perez  potential scum
Robert2424 Town, I believe his RC
Imran Ehsan Town, I believe him
Road2Victory Town, by Rusken death, I think this also clears R2V
Shahenshah potential scum, not too much evidence, but by "potential" you also have the potential town there as well.
Lyner  Samus confirm town
Rafay potential scum. gives vague responses, and rather stay quiet.
iSocialism ME
Mandarijn Town - has done a lot for town IMO.
Finster Baby potential scum, just something fishy there

 

By being potential scum in my list could mean I just don't fully see you as a townie. Even if you're pro-town, with there being two scum factors. You could still be mafia hunting for the other team.

[Imran Ehsan]

Although you have pegged me down as town, I cant help but think that role will actually make sense in the hand of a scum. The scum wants to find out who the townies are that have power roles so that they dont waste their kills on vanilla townies. So a scum with a neopolitan role will actually be useful (for the scum) as opposed to a townie with neopolitan role.

[Mandarijn]

Although I still think we should lynch TW , but he's really busy in RL at the moment so I doubt he'll have much time for Mafia right now.

Kevin, maybe you should check if he wants to be replaced? (Then we can lynch the new guy immediately )

[Finster Baby]

Yeah, I'm leaning towards TW again as scum.

REALLY leaning.

In fact....

VOTE: The Warrior

[Perez]

[Electric Mango]

Sorry for going MIA, I will read what I missed and post again.

[Road2Victory]

Although I still think we should lynch TW , but he's really busy in RL at the moment so I doubt he'll have much time for Mafia right now.

Kevin, maybe you should check if he wants to be replaced? (Then we can lynch the new guy immediately )

 

Somebodys hesitant on voting TW.......  

[Shahenshah]

Yeah, I'm leaning towards TW again as scum.

REALLY leaning.

In fact....

VOTE: The Warrior

lol, how you jump on wherever the wagon is going.

 

You're now on my scum list again.