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[KH-11] The Force Awakens -- Mafia Win

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I am Finn (FN-2187), a 2-shot Commuter. I did not use my night action last night.

Killing Mandarijn seems like it was too easy of a way for the scum to frame me. Of course I would be suspected if he died. Perez immediately jumped right on that train. Clever planning by Perez and his ilk? Or did he just fall into the mafia's trap with his quick draw reaction?

So you have not used a night action?

 

^ for the record my star wars name is Rey. I am a role cop.

What were you're finding for all the other nights?

 

 

Most scum killed one guy and a x-shot killed the other. SO TW Imran says you are a 2-shot communter. Did you kill someone last night?

I think someone killed mand because he was a very pro-town player, if not the most. They could also be trying to frame TW.

Ccabal Says that Yehom, Perez ,Lyner himself visited Imran. Can someone confirmed that he visited TW? I feel like if you were a true tracker/watcher you would know.

Can Lyner also confirm that he visited Imran?

Perez what is your star character name, since you already RCed.

 

 

From peoples claims

The Warrior 2-shot commuter - can you give us a star wars name if this is true? If not could you vote fro Imran
Electric Mango - No RC
iSocialism Lor San Tekka - Neapolitan
Yehom - Body guard, can't remember the name
Perez - Watcher - no name
Imran Ehsan - Can't find the exact details.
ccabal86 - was able to watch or track. Might as well just say what you are You already gave it away.
Shahenshah - No RC
Lyner - Town consided by Samus
Finster Baby ? can't remember

 

But as you can see. Everyong hasn't pretty much RCed. but most people will agree upon at least 4 scums. So, yes someone is a liar. In all honest don't trust anyone.

 

As Neopolitan, did you find anything useful?

 

I will tell later on in this day.

 

Also EM you said early, that you knew that there was at least one town vanilla. Care to explain?


Because if you are it, I can check during the night to confirm you.


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The Warrior (1): Perez,
Perez (1): Imran Ehsan,
Yehom (1): Shahenshah,
Electric Mango (0):
iSocialism (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
ccabal86 (0):
Shahenshah (0): 
Lyner (0):
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Not voting: Electric Mango, iSocialism, Lyner, The Warrior, Finster Baby, ccabal86, Yehom,

 
With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
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So you have not used a night action?

I was not planning on expanding on my x-shot ability originally hence the partial role claim. Due to the nature of my role, stating how many "actions" I've used would put me in danger of being targeted at night. If you are indeed a member of the town iSoc, surely you can see how exposing the number of my x-shots that I have used could leave me exposed.

@Perez - You claim that you are a second watcher. Do you have a modifier?
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There was no way I would have known that no other Role Cops existed in the game if I was was in fact a scum role cop. For all i knew anyone of Mandarijn, you, lyner, EM or Shah could be a role cop. If i was scum there is no way I would have made that claim just to get Rafay lynched. He would have been lynched any waymost probably with or without my role claim. So your accusations hold no water.

 

What I find extremely suspicious is Mandarijn getting killed at night, a player who was himself looking pretty suspicious, and you coming out guns blazing on TW right as day starts. It seems all too scripted to me. The scum wants another good townie lynch so they will try to set up the most easy guy to be lynched. So the scum kills manadarijn, who had not claimed any role, over some more valuable kills. And conveniently you come out on D4 accusing (and voting) for TW and me on the very weird reasoning that I was protected by 2 players (?) How does that even make sense? I think you could not be sure whether I investigated TW at night or not so the accusation on me.

 

I am still unclear on ccabal's role on this though. They seem to be confirming each other so I am still not sure if they are working together or whether Perez's scum team knew somehow ccabal targetted me at night as well. I would need to go back and look at R2V's previous posts to see if I can dig out something suspicious.


By the way, whats everyones thoughts on the 2 kills? Was that a Vig action or somehow the scum pulled  out 2 kills?


 

 

2) I said one of them.... BECAUSE, you are valuable asset to them. What a dumb question is that? That raises suspicion even higher.

 

and yes this. We have seen no Vig kills at night. Why would scum try to protect me when there has been 0 Vig actions before this night. Unless you guys have a Vig in your team and somehow assumed that argument will make sense. Yeah you knew there is a Vig but the townies did not. You are contradicting yourself the more you post.


pss: What were your actions the previous nights? You have made no reveals regarding your previous nights actions. Only going with your scripted story. Lets hear what you claimed to do on the first 2 nights,

 

 You made that claim to lie and evade being persecuted, looking as if you were a valuable townie. And yes they hold water because if Yehom is townie bodyguard and the town cop protected you, what are the odds of being another cop. You are just blatantly lying and this now holds more water than before. 

 

 As a townie, I may have fallen to their bait but at the same it is also suspicious you defending TW.  Maybe that just proves my point that not only you but also TW is scum. 

 

As TW said, it seems he is the Vig, as scummt vig. 

 

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On my fist night: 

 

The Warrior was flavor investigated.

 

-So, somebody knew is TW is good or bad.   (That would be helpful right now)

 

On my second night:

 

"No Result"

 

-I got this for watching Samus. I didn't get anything cause she was "Causetic" (I dont remember the word). Basically, I couldn't get any info from her cause of her ability. 


Most scum killed one guy and a x-shot killed the other. SO TW Imran says you are a 2-shot communter. Did you kill someone last night?

I think someone killed mand because he was a very pro-town player, if not the most. They could also be trying to frame TW.

Ccabal Says that Yehom, Perez ,Lyner himself visited Imran. Can someone confirmed that he visited TW? I feel like if you were a true tracker/watcher you would know.

Can Lyner also confirm that he visited Imran?

Perez what is your star character name, since you already RCed.

 

 

From peoples claims

The Warrior 2-shot commuter - can you give us a star wars name if this is true? If not could you vote fro Imran
Electric Mango - No RC
iSocialism Lor San Tekka - Neapolitan
Yehom - Body guard, can't remember the name
Perez - Watcher - no name
Imran Ehsan - Can't find the exact details.
ccabal86 - was able to watch or track. Might as well just say what you are You already gave it away.
Shahenshah - No RC
Lyner - Town consided by Samus
Finster Baby ? can't remember

 

But as you can see. Everyong hasn't pretty much RCed. but most people will agree upon at least 4 scums. So, yes someone is a liar. In all honest don't trust anyone

 

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So you have not used a night action?

I was not planning on expanding on my x-shot ability originally hence the partial role claim. Due to the nature of my role, stating how many "actions" I've used would put me in danger of being targeted at night. If you are indeed a member of the town iSoc, surely you can see how exposing the number of my x-shots that I have used could leave me exposed.

@Perez - You claim that you are a second watcher. Do you have a modifier?

 

No, I dont think so. 


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You don't think so? Your role should tell you.

It doesn't have modifier. 


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So we have a watcher, a tracker, and a follower all with even-odd modifiers and a second watcher without a modifier. That seems odd.
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What were you're finding for all the other nights?

 

Pretty sure I revealed all these on D3. I used my action on Rafay on N1. I got the result that he is a 3-shot Role Stopper. I tried using my action on Yehom on N2. But I got "No Result" feedback from the Mod. I thought I was role- blocked, but as we have seen no role blocker claims yet, its also possible the following may have happened.

 

1. Scum role blocker blocked me

2. Yehom also has acetic ability

3. Rafay used his action on Yehom.

 

One of the 3 above could have resulted in a No Result from the Mod.


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You made that claim to lie and evade being persecuted, looking as if you were a valuable townie. And yes they hold water because if Yehom is townie bodyguard and the town cop protected you, what are the odds of being another cop. You are just blatantly lying and this now holds more water than before. As a townie, I may have fallen to their bait but at the same it is also suspicious you defending TW. Maybe that just proves my point that not only you but also TW is scum. As TW said, it seems he is the Vig, as scummt vig.

 

I was nowhere near being about to be "persecuted". If I was scum why would I have made that claim when no one suspected me?

 

The town cop "protected" me? I dont get it. How does a cop protect? You are not making any sense.

 

I am not defending anyone. I am just revealing the results I got from my night actions that I also did on D3.

 

On the other hand, you have been lurking most of the game while only posting that you have a "power" role that you can use every night while saying that you have no info that you can reveal. And then on N3 Mandarijn and Robert turns up dead and suddenly and you come out blazing accusing TW and me being scum. I am seeing a pattern here.

 

If anyone wants to go back and look at my list of potential suspects, you will see Perez very high on my scummy list, while Robert is very high on my townie list. The night kills stinks of a clear attempt to manipulate votes based on what was posted on D3. Robert is killed while being high on my townie list, trying to paint me as one of the scum who took out an almost confirmed townie. They also had their Vig buddy take out Mandarijn to attempt to paint TW as scum. They probably knew I was going to be protected at night so they had to design the night kills such that a powerful townie role is made suspect and his night results discredit while getting through another easy lynch on a suspicious looking townie.

 

Nice strategy there, but it wont work. There are too many flaws and inconsistencies in your posts.


Also please dont avoid my question on how you knew that a Vig will attempt a kill in the night.


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On my fist night: The Warrior was flavor investigated. -So, somebody knew is TW is good or bad. (That would be helpful right now) On my second night: "No Result" -I got this for watching Samus. I didn't get anything cause she was "Causetic" (I dont remember the word). Basically, I couldn't get any info from her cause of her ability.

 

These claims really fit well with your story except the problem is you are making these claims "after the fact", i.e. no one can confirm them. 


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Perez:

As TW said, it seems he is the Vig, as scummt vig.


Can you tell us where he said that? I'd insta vote for him.





[size=3]-I got this for watching Samus. I didn't get anything cause she was "Causetic" (I dont remember the word). Basically, I couldn't get any info from her cause of her ability.

I believe ascetic prevents protection, it would affect the roles of bodyguard and doc, I don't think it stops watchers/trackers etc. Correct me if I am wrong.

Samus was a silly, silly girl. I hate it when townies go all beserk and extreme and get wrong people killed.

Most scum killed one guy and a x-shot killed the other. SO TW Imran says you are a 2-shot communter. Did you kill someone last night.

Commuter is someone who leaves the town at night if he chooses to use that ability.
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iSoc, Still were waiting for your info.

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*Correction: Ascetic blocs all abilities other than kills, so you can ignore my second point Perez.

 

- Any whereabouts of Finster? 



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What I find strangely suspicious is nearly everyone has claimed a Resistance role.....
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I'm back, was on holiday all last week (and I believe I mentioned that here)

My role again: You are PZ-4CO, Even Night Follower

What I find strangely suspicious is nearly everyone has claimed a Resistance role.....

duh, because no one would role claim a scum :P



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Perez:

As TW said, it seems he is the Vig, as scummt vig.

Can you tell us where he said that? I'd insta vote for him.

He won't be able to because I never said that.

Perez has come out guns blazing on day 4 and has already accused two people of being scum by citing fabricated or highly flawed information. He has posted more so far today than he did total on just about any other day previously, even after being called out for his previous activity and he has claimed to hold a role that does not seem to fit with the other roles already claimed in this game. Perez is topping my suspect list right now.
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Fine! Vote for me than! I am just tired of scum players not dying, even once!!!!  So ok, apart from me on being a suspect, who else you guys think is a good candidate of a scum? 

 

Apart from EM, btw. 


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Fine! Vote for me than! I am just tired of scum players not dying, even once!!!! So ok, apart from me on being a suspect, who else you guys think is a good candidate of a scum?

Apart from EM, btw.


I have shared my list recently.

Yehom, awaiting your response.

iSoc, still hoping you have some useful information to share.

EM: Post or get investigated by iSoc (and if iSoc gets blocked for some reason. You have my vote) if you don't post, also good chance you have my vote.

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Also Perez, if you note I haven't voted for you. Also boohooing doesn't do any good, tbh, it sounds like a deflection.
- You've made claims that tW said he is a vig, I'm simply asking you to tell us where you got that from. Do you have some other information on tW, if you do, tell us and it could help us.

- You accused that tW killed someone as he is x shot commuter, but commuter doesn't kill, He runs away from town so he can't be killed unless lynched. Do you have any information to disprove that? If not, then what you're saying is either just a silly mistake and getting confused with a role or you're just trying to push hard on tW with factually wrong information.

- You said despite the chance you might be falling for the trap on lynching tW, you're going to still go ahead despite the fact the information you yourself has brought forward is not being able to stand the scrutiny. WUT!?

- You claimed cop protecting Imran, again, you either have the role confused as cop doesn't protect, but investigates or you're again pushing a certain tangent but with factually wrong information.

I'm sorry but there is nothing wrong with asking you go back up your claims. We're doing due delligence here, We don't want a townie lynched again just because you arrived at a certain conclusion based on the information that is not correct and you're going emo after being asked to back up that information.

Either you're scummie or making a noob mistake like Rusken did. If I wasn't cautious after Rusken scenario, I would have had switched my vote already, Rusken got lynhced for far less inconsistency.


And Imran, sorry, but I dont feel Ccabal is the bad guy here. Ccabal, I'd like you to chip in because I currently trust you to be a townie.

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