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[KH-11] The Force Awakens -- Mafia Win

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What are the scenarios for no result?

 
I already mentioned those in post #1029:
 

I thought I was role- blocked, but as we have seen no role blocker claims yet, its also possible the following may have happened.

1. Scum role blocker blocked me
2. Yehom also has acetic ability
3. Rafay used his action on Yehom.

One of the 3 above could have resulted in a No Result from the Mod.

 

Regarding N2, I tried to protect Shamus, but because he was acetic he wasn't protectable. I don't know whether that would result in a 'no result', or if you were role blocked by Rafay. Either way I'm not acetic myself, or else ccabal wouldn't be able to watch me


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I've said on several occasions that I'm an even day follower. I followed TW on Night 2 with him coming up with no action. I don't pretend to know what a 2-shot commuter is, so if someone can educate me that would be awesome.

 

The Commuter is a role that "leaves Town" each Night, thus making them ineligible to be targeted by Night actions.

 

Two shots means he can only use this ability two times. If there is no shot limit then he can be practically invincible during the night



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The Warrior (1): Perez,
Perez (1): Imran Ehsan,
Yehom (1): Shahenshah,
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Imran Ehsan (0):
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PSA: just found out how a chain reaction involving my role and a nurse would end up with. Basically I'm cannon fodder, because I can only be protected by the nurse if mafia explicitly target me. Meaning that it useless for the nurse to protect me, so who ever it is, don't do it (Just for Sha: nurse doesn't have to identify yourself as such, I'm just throwing it out there, because I know that this message will reach you). I'll gladly keep someone else alive if it means that town wins this game. My role is useless if I can't protect someone more valuable, same goes thus for the nurse. 


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Perhaps Mand got a scummy name from TW but is still not sure if a "scummy" name means a scummy role, hence he is trying to push TW to blurt out his name. If TW lied then Mand can safely say that TW is scum. As EM said and what we've seen it seems scums were given fake identities. It is likely that they're given a fake role too(Even Kevin has confirmed that there is an Encryptor). This could explain iSoc's convenient claim as there is no risk of other people counter claiming. Also explain Perez's situation if paired with ccabal. iSoc targetting Shah at night 3 can also means that they're working together(apparently they never try to directly suspect/support each other)

 

And @Imran did you visit TW last night?

 

Yes but he never asked for the name though. I know iSocialism was asking around for names so it would have made sense if iSoc was the Flavor Cop. Mand never wanted it and seemed to be he was basing his votes on TW filp flopping on D2. I asked Mand about the reasons for his suspicions as well and didnt get anything more than that.

 

And yeah I targetted TW last night. Last night the people with unknown roles were you, Mandarijn, TW, EM, Shah and Perez. I wanted to find out an unknown role and find inconsistency in anyones claim today instead of trying to confirm a role. You are pretty townie for me and Shah did not stand out that much. Amongst the others I wanted to see if Mand's suspicions of TW were true as he seemed adamant, so I chose him over Perez or EM. Probably should have gone with Perez in hindsight.

 

 

Makes sense.

 

 

 

 

@Lyner/iSoc: Are you 100% certain Yehom role is confirmed bodyguard? No holes in that plot? I'm more like pushing back against Yehom, he keeps misrepresenting my stance, puts words in my mouth and keeps flip flopping targeting me, so yea, obviously I'd be then suspicious of him. If you guys are certain his RC is valid, I'll unvote.

 

Unless Yehom, Perez, and ccabal are working together then it is likely that Yehom speaks the truth

 

 

 

I am pretty certain that town won't last another day if we mislynch/no lynch today. Time to lay out all infos. Looking at how good scum was playing I'm also pretty sure they already know who's who :P

 

What's your role and what have you done during the nights, Shah?

 

 

I'm Han Solo, The Jack of all Trades. (And my next sentence shows why experience matters :P ) Just before I confirm my night actions, do you want me to proceed? It will reveal If I have used protective roles or not. This can impact Mafia's night actions.

 

 

Also, Unvote for Yehom. I dont really trust Perez, but for now, I trust ccabal atleast until he makes the promised post, so if he feels scummie, and Perez being scummie already, I might re-vote or switch to someone more scummie. :P

 

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I am not exactly sure what a nurse has to do with anything.


@Shah - at this point of the game, every little bit of info will be of use to the town if it can be used to avoid another mislynch. So since you have already revealed your role you need to let us know whatever info you have or otherwise it will be all lost if you are killed at night.

 

Thats my opinion anyway.


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Imran - strange for him to expose TW like that, but he probably wanted to keep him self. I also believe him as a pro-town player.

 

At this point in the game, scum will target more valuable roles at night ex: me, doc, bodyguard, watcher etc. They wont take the chance that the commuter has an action up his sleeve and will use it the night they target him. So i am pretty sure they will leave him be. If anything they will try to lynch him if they knew his role. So I revealed TWs role knowing it will help id the scum today and not put him in too much danger at night.

 

 

This is most likely true for a couple reasons:

1) The mafia will not want to risk trying to kill me on a night that I commute. It would result in a wasted night for them with no kill.

2) The mafia will want to remove anyone that they think has protective abilities that can hinder their chances to win this late in the game.

3) The mafia would not need to kill me at night when they can kill a known commodity (i.e. someone who can't leave town). Unless we start correctly identifying and lynching scum during the day there will be a point where they have the majority remaining and then they can just lynch me during the day anyway.

 

We would be better served by using our protective roles on other people.

 

PSA: just found out how a chain reaction involving my role and a nurse would end up with. Basically I'm cannon fodder, because I can only be protected by the nurse if mafia explicitly target me. Meaning that it useless for the nurse to protect me, so who ever it is, don't do it (Just for Sha: nurse doesn't have to identify yourself as such, I'm just throwing it out there, because I know that this message will reach you). I'll gladly keep someone else alive if it means that town wins this game. My role is useless if I can't protect someone more valuable, same goes thus for the nurse. 

 

Did you mean Doctor instead of Nurse?


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Did you mean Doctor instead of Nurse?
 

Doctors, nurses, whatever you call them


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I'm Han Solo, The Jack of all Trades. (And my next sentence shows why experience matters :P ) Just before I confirm my night actions, do you want me to proceed? It will reveal If I have used protective roles or not. This can impact Mafia's night actions.

 

 

Interesting

 

Do you have any info that can prove your claim, without fully exposing your abilities?



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Dont know what to say at this point.  It will be interesting who are the scum once the game is over.  Btw, dont forget EM people. 


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Dont know what to say at this point.  It will be interesting who are the scum once the game is over.  Btw, dont forget EM people. 

 

Who do you think are the scums, and why?



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Pretty busy, will post on Thursday


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We are now down to two days until the deadline. We really need to figure out what we want to do.

 

My top suspects (most likely to least likely) at this point are:

Perez - Posting habits have been suspicious throughout the game. Showed up quickly and tried to push a lynch of me after Mandarijn's death. Role claim does not fit with the other claimed roles and modifiers in the game. Hasn't offered any further information.

EM - Has recently been more active but hasn't brought much information to the table.

ccabal - Possibly working with Perez. Didn't really trust R2V originally. Would like to hear more of his thoughts though.

iSoc - Least likely on this list and could very well be town. Potentially working with EM to confirm his role though?

 

Tonight is an even night so that means that Finster can follow someone. It's probably best if Finster follows someone who we most suspect to be scum. Hopefully we can get a scum lynch by the deadline and Finster can help identify a second scum by choosing the correct person to follow at night.

 

We have a bodyguard and most likely a doctor remaining as well. The protective roles should protect our most important remaining townies. Probably Lyner and Imran. Anyone else that we should consider here?


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Dont know what to say at this point.  It will be interesting who are the scum once the game is over.  Btw, dont forget EM people. 

 

Pretty sure that you know who they are. Who do you suspect the least at this point?


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I'm Han Solo, The Jack of all Trades. (And my next sentence shows why experience matters :P ) Just before I confirm my night actions, do you want me to proceed? It will reveal If I have used protective roles or not. This can impact Mafia's night actions.

 

 

Interesting

 

Do you have any info that can prove your claim, without fully exposing your abilities?

 

Well, some exposure will always be there...



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EM you still haven't expanded on my question. What did you mean by there is at least one vanilla town?


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Vote Count


The Warrior (1): Perez,
Perez (1): Imran Ehsan,
Yehom (1): Shahenshah,
Electric Mango (0):
iSocialism (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
ccabal86 (0):
Shahenshah (0): 
Lyner (0):
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Not voting: Electric Mango, iSocialism, Lyner, The Warrior, Finster Baby, ccabal86, Yehom,

 
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I'm Han Solo, The Jack of all Trades. (And my next sentence shows why experience matters :P ) Just before I confirm my night actions, do you want me to proceed? It will reveal If I have used protective roles or not. This can impact Mafia's night actions.

 

 

Interesting

 

Do you have any info that can prove your claim, without fully exposing your abilities?

 

Well, some exposure will always be there...

 

 

 

 

I'm Han Solo, The Jack of all Trades. (And my next sentence shows why experience matters :P ) Just before I confirm my night actions, do you want me to proceed? It will reveal If I have used protective roles or not. This can impact Mafia's night actions.

 

 

Interesting

 

Do you have any info that can prove your claim, without fully exposing your abilities?

 

Well, some exposure will always be there...

 

 

Please do before we don't have enough time to plan stuffs

 

 

 

I'm fine with lynching iSoc or Perez today



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Pretty busy, will post on Thursday


I should be the last person to call you out on this but it's Friday and we haven't heard from you yet.

 

 

+1

 

Perez gets accused. Possibility emerges that he and cc may be working together and ccabal conveniently disappears. I dont like it.


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It's almost time

 

 

Everyone should start voting by tomorrow

 

 

For now,

 

Vote: Perez



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