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[Lyner]

I'm back

 

Interesting stuffs here

 

 

 

The reason I'm hesitant to put EM into the scum list is that I protected him at the first night, and no one died last night

 

Also last night's protection seems good so let's do that again

 

 

We really need EM to speak up against iSoc's claim

[Lyner]

I'm back

 

Interesting stuffs here

 

 

 

The reason I'm hesitant to put EM into the scum list is that I protected him at the first night, and no one died last night

 

Also last night's protection seems good so let's do that again

 

 

We really need EM to speak up against iSoc's claim

[iSocialism]

I'm back

 

Interesting stuffs here

 

 

 

The reason I'm hesitant to put EM into the scum list is that I protected him at the first night, and no one died last night

 

Also last night's protection seems good so let's do that again

 

 

We really need EM to speak up against iSoc's claim

Maybe I missed it, but did you say who you protected last night?

[Finster Baby]

Yehom I'm not sure what else I can do to prove to you that I'm not scum. I've shown my role and such, and even worked openly to show what I did each night I'm able to take action.

Shah, unfortunately your commentary has done nothing to prove to me you're anything but scum. (Good luck with that interview, BTW)

[iSocialism]

After re-reading some stuff

 

Yehom I'm not sure what else I can do to prove to you that I'm not scum. I've shown my role and such, and even worked openly to show what I did each night I'm able to take action.

Shah, unfortunately your commentary has done nothing to prove to me you're anything but scum. (Good luck with that interview, BTW)

what about being the SK? I'm leaning on shah, Imran, and Em being the scums with you as a kicker/ one of the other three. In other words, your vote on shah separates you from him, or at least is presented to be that way. leaving me with those three.

oops I was going to make a new post starting with after reading some stuff but decided to respone to FB instead.

[Finster Baby]

Forgive me for not knowing the abbreviations...SK?

And for those who say I'm not actively deducting, keep in mind this is my first mafia game in oh, 4 or 5 years. My skills at deducting is rusty at best and closer to abhorrent. You all know each other's tendencies, I haven't a clue, which is why I do more watching and let the more experienced hands analyze and weigh what they're saying.

If that earns me a lynch, so be it. But it'll be game over.

[iSocialism]

Forgive me for not knowing the abbreviations...SK?

And for those who say I'm not actively deducting, keep in mind this is my first mafia game in oh, 4 or 5 years. My skills at deducting is rusty at best and closer to abhorrent. You all know each other's tendencies, I haven't a clue, which is why I do more watching and let the more experienced hands analyze and weigh what they're saying.

If that earns me a lynch, so be it. But it'll be game over.

serial killer

[Yehom]

Yehom I'm not sure what else I can do to prove to you that I'm not scum. I've shown my role and such, and even worked openly to show what I did each night I'm able to take action.

 

This is why I want to lynch EM first and have Imran check you. Your actions so far have pointed to you speaking the truth about your role, but someone has to be lying or we are dealing with far less mafia then we initially suspected. 

 

@ Isoc: mafia godfather doesn't give you the power to see what roles the town has, it's only a cop proof mafia as far as I know, so that wouldn't make sense

 

@ Lyner: would you think that it would be wiser to lynch ccabal first and let Imran check out EM instead?

[Finster Baby]

Forgive me for not knowing the abbreviations...SK?

And for those who say I'm not actively deducting, keep in mind this is my first mafia game in oh, 4 or 5 years. My skills at deducting is rusty at best and closer to abhorrent. You all know each other's tendencies, I haven't a clue, which is why I do more watching and let the more experienced hands analyze and weigh what they're saying.

If that earns me a lynch, so be it. But it'll be game over.

serial killer

Ah OK. Nope, no zodiac killer in me.  
 

Yehom I'm not sure what else I can do to prove to you that I'm not scum. I've shown my role and such, and even worked openly to show what I did each night I'm able to take action.

 
This is why I want to lynch EM first and have Imran check you. Your actions so far have pointed to you speaking the truth about your role, but someone has to be lying or we are dealing with far less mafia then we initially suspected. 
 
@ Isoc: mafia godfather doesn't give you the power to see what roles the town has, it's only a cop proof mafia as far as I know, so that wouldn't make sense
 
@ Lyner: would you think that it would be wiser to lynch ccabal first and let Imran check out EM instead?

Ok I suppose that makes sense to me Yehom. Wish I could put your mind at ease more, but barring something earth shattering....

[iSocialism]

They can be given an investigated role

[Yehom]

Also last night's protection seems good so let's do that again

 

 

They can be given an investigated role

 

Lyner, please confirm this to further prove that Imran isn't scum 

[iSocialism]

Yesterday (mafia) we had perez and ccabal come forward and claim that Yehom, Perez, Lyner, and ccabal was watching/NAing Imran who was looking at TW

leaving us with Shah, EM, FB and myself not being watched/NA in that group. There was two people killed the night before. IF these roles are true with the statement which are most likely are. With all 4 confirming that they were watching Imran. Now Imran statements may be false, he may be align with TW and is giving him cover. Still, we are have two night action/kills on people with the 4 out of the grouping with myself minus we have; Shah, EM and FB who should have committed the NAs.

[KevinH]

Sorry about the mess...


 
Vote Count

Shahenshah (2): Finster Baby, iSocialism,
The Warrior (0): 
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iSocialism (0):
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Not voting: Electric Mango, The Warrior, ccabal86, Shahenshah, Imran Ehsan, Lyner, Yehom,  

 
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, March 17 at 17:00 EDT.

 

The discussion was correct.  The fun of the game is trying to find who is lying, so don't quote things to prove they are real.

[Imran Ehsan]

wow..lots of activity finally. OK  a few things to say.

 

1. Yehom, your plan sounds good but I have a few concerns. Firstly my role only allows me to confirm someones power role. It does not say whether they are townie or scum. So I know TW and iSoc's claimed power roles are correct but I cant be sure whether they are scum having power roles. TW has commuter role and it wont make sense for a scum to have it so you can say he is confirmed town. But iSoc has neapolitan which is a role which is extremely useless for town to have but useful for scum to have. So in terms of my results from the night I would say TW is town but iSocialism is not confirmed town.

 

2. iSocialism - You claim of me being a Godfather is just....strange. Do you have any theories that support that or just throwing it out there? Godfather is a power role by itself. I cant be a role cop and a god father at the same time. I confirmed both Rafay and TWs role before they had revealed it and we know Rafay is confirmed town and TW is almost confirmed town as well. Me being Godfather makes no sense whatsoever. You can claim that I am a scum Role cop I guess but that still wont make sense provided that I have revealed information that wont be know to others normally. If I was scum I would not help the town scum hunt by providing new information.

 

3. Finster - I understand your frustration but you had two uses of the night action and you have turned up with 0 info. You confirmed TW did not make any kill on N2 and confirmed EM did not make any kill on N4. So you are either covering for them by saying that they made no kills or you infact do not have the follower role that you claimed. I agree with Yehom that your role needs to be confirmed. But I wont say that I will definitely investigate you tonight because I dont want the scum to know what my night action will. As I see it its equally important that I find out what role EM has and confirm whether Shah is lying about JOAT or not. But you are definitely on my suspicious list.

 

4. iSocialism your last post makes sense and is logical. But you are forgetting (or ignoring?) the fact that scum probably has power roles as well. ccabal may well been watching me but that does not confirm him being town. Yesterday I also had suspicions that a scum ccabal would actually be interested to Watch me because they knew that in all likelihood the doc will protect me. They wanted to find out who the doc was. ccabal had no answer to that theory that I posted.

 

So according to your theory you actually had more of a chance to perform one of the night kills. So I am not sure what your point is with that.

[Lyner]

 

I'm back

 

Interesting stuffs here

 

 

 

The reason I'm hesitant to put EM into the scum list is that I protected him at the first night, and no one died last night

 

Also last night's protection seems good so let's do that again

 

 

We really need EM to speak up against iSoc's claim

Maybe I missed it, but did you say who you protected last night?

 

 

Nope

 

 

 

Also last night's protection seems good so let's do that again

 

 

 

 

They can be given an investigated role

 

Lyner, please confirm this to further prove that Imran isn't scum 

 

 

Imran is 90% town, I'd applaud if Imran is scum   

 

 

 

That said I need to hear Shah's info before deciding who to lynch today

[Imran Ehsan]

hah...I doubt I would have been posting this much if I was scum.

 

But to get to the point, Lyner your action on EM on N1 does indeed point him to being town. We have not seen any other protective roles apart from you and Yehom. And as Yehom is a body guard he would have died himself if he saved someone. Plus he claimed to not have used any action on N1. That leaves only your prtective action on N1 or TW having used his commuter ability on N1. Has TW told us if he used it on N1 or not? I cant remember. If not, it probably clears EM but if TW used it then we dont know for sure yet. We also need to know if Shah has any protective ability as JOAT (if he really is one) or whether he used it on N1. Shah needs to reveal his actions. Not doing so will only harm the town.

 

One more thing. After my last post, I was thinking about Finster's role and Shah accusing him of scum. I looked it up on wiki and according to that:

 

The Follower is an informative role that can target a player at Night and learn what form of action they took that Night (investigation, protection, killing, etc), but not who they targeted.

 

So the follower actually is a pretty powerful role. He is almost like a Role Cop because he will directly know what action someone did at night. This raises some questions for me.

 

1. So if FBs role claim is correct we basically have two role cops for the town. How valid is that in a game setup perspective?

2. His may indeed be a follower but it is also equally possible that he is a scum Follower. HE works for the scum in pretty much the way I work for the town.

3. Even though it is such a powerful role he has basically come up with Zero information for the town to use. He could have used it on anybody and could have confirmed whether what their claimed role is correct or not. For example he could have targtted iSocialism and found out he has used a Neapolitan role, he could have targetted me and have seen me use a Role Cop ability. But he happened to target 2 roles who had no actions in the night? out of all the townies we have that are regularly using their actions? He couldnt confirm a single one?

 

Is that too much of a coincidence?

[iSocialism]

wow..lots of activity finally. OK  a few things to say.

 

1. Yehom, your plan sounds good but I have a few concerns. Firstly my role only allows me to confirm someones power role. It does not say whether they are townie or scum. So I know TW and iSoc's claimed power roles are correct but I cant be sure whether they are scum having power roles. TW has commuter role and it wont make sense for a scum to have it so you can say he is confirmed town. But iSoc has neapolitan which is a role which is extremely useless for town to have but useful for scum to have. So in terms of my results from the night I would say TW is town but iSocialism is not confirmed town.

 

2. iSocialism - You claim of me being a Godfather is just....strange. Do you have any theories that support that or just throwing it out there? Godfather is a power role by itself. I cant be a role cop and a god father at the same time. I confirmed both Rafay and TWs role before they had revealed it and we know Rafay is confirmed town and TW is almost confirmed town as well. Me being Godfather makes no sense whatsoever. You can claim that I am a scum Role cop I guess but that still wont make sense provided that I have revealed information that wont be know to others normally. If I was scum I would not help the town scum hunt by providing new information.

 

3. Finster - I understand your frustration but you had two uses of the night action and you have turned up with 0 info. You confirmed TW did not make any kill on N2 and confirmed EM did not make any kill on N4. So you are either covering for them by saying that they made no kills or you infact do not have the follower role that you claimed. I agree with Yehom that your role needs to be confirmed. But I wont say that I will definitely investigate you tonight because I dont want the scum to know what my night action will. As I see it its equally important that I find out what role EM has and confirm whether Shah is lying about JOAT or not. But you are definitely on my suspicious list.

 

4. iSocialism your last post makes sense and is logical. But you are forgetting (or ignoring?) the fact that scum probably has power roles as well. ccabal may well been watching me but that does not confirm him being town. Yesterday I also had suspicions that a scum ccabal would actually be interested to Watch me because they knew that in all likelihood the doc will protect me. They wanted to find out who the doc was. ccabal had no answer to that theory that I posted.

 

So according to your theory you actually had more of a chance to perform one of the night kills. So I am not sure what your point is with that.

I'm not saying that anyone not you in the party in your bedroom on n3 is scum, but rather did not commit one of the two night kills. We have this, Perez said he saw 4 total NAing you, ccabal comes and gives the names; Perez, Ccabal, Lyner, and Yehom. Yehom confirms his NA and I Believe Lyner does too. Perez death/lynched later confirms his role. Ccabal role was previously claimed by R2V, and it corresponds with Ccabal n3/d4 claim. This doesn't clear him as scum, but it clears him of a NA kill during the previous night.

 

After all this we have 4 non Imran bedroom party, party poopers to commit the night kill assuming you NA TW and he is the commuter. If not you guys are both scums and we don't have a way to prove it/time. Anyways, there's Shah, EM, FB, and myself to commit the night kill, doesn't mean all 4 our scums, just two committed the night kills. In my position I clear myself. leaving me with 3 to commit the night kill. Maybe only one is scum and made the kill, and the other was a sk, vig or something that got a kill. 

 

If we go back to you room  We see that Lyner, Yehom, TW are mostly likely to be town given all statements to be true about your room  also Perez, he's dead

leaving me with this. Imran can still be scum, Ccabal can still be scum. FB, Shah, and EM or the other non-confirmed town. I believe with all the info we have gotten, that there is 3 scums and 1 SK assuming. 4 total, with only nine players. confirmed town and myself minus. Five players left, my least likely Ccabal. I believe my only plausible flaws are these; you and TW have played an excellent game, also the other guy, and will most likely win. Ccabal is scum and should be traded out for someone else in my scum list. Which my next two option or you or either Shah.

 

I also re-read the godfather role, and I mistaken the investigation immune for the ability to have the ability to investigate. There's is only one way to confirm your role more. X amount of blank, what is X?

[iSocialism]

@kevinH can a role blocker also stop scum from committing a night kill?

[Lyner]

1. So if FBs role claim is correct we basically have two role cops for the town. How valid is that in a game setup perspective?

 

His choice of targets are convenient, a probable fake role identity claim

 

 

 

 

About EM, if EM is SK it would explain the first night, that is he was too careful to target anyone on the first night and apparently scum targetted him, in which I saved him

[Shahenshah]

Hi guys, cleared my first interview vhapy (intense prep for second required, day after tomorrow, because im not 101% qualified but its not too far from what i do and 100% within my capability.), After interview, I went to a friend who has a similar role to take notes and discuss.

 

I'm on my way back, msging from tazi. Will post (-: