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[Finster Baby]

I'm more than happy to give my reasoning for my moves:

Night 1 - I'm even, so no action.
Night 2 - We're still feeling each other out, and my suspicions at the time were focused on TW. I believe I had even voted to lynch him at one point to pull back and go after another. I followed him and he did nothing. That, combined with his daytime actions lessened his suspicion, in my opinion anyway.
Night 3 - No action
Night 4 - TW suggested during the day to go with the top suspect on my list. EM was at the top, followed by Shah. I flipped back and forth and settled on EM, based on what little he did say and his inactivity. I followed him and he did nothing. Still not sure why and would like to hear from him. That said, I should have followed Shah or someone else, but hindsight is always 20-20.

I can't follow anyone should I survive the day tonight, so I may not have much more to add. I'd love to know who the odd night follower is/was.

I hope this helps. I'm not smart enough to throw enough smoke around to come up with fake information for 2 nights in a row just to be in cahoots with the scum. That sounds like something Shah or maybe Imran would come up with (Tho I seriously doubt Imran is scum right now.)

[KevinH]

You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought.



 
Vote Count

Shahenshah (2): Finster Baby, iSocialism,
The Warrior (0): 
Electric Mango (0): 
Yehom (0):
iSocialism (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
ccabal86 (0):
Lyner (0):
Finster Baby (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Electric Mango, The Warrior, ccabal86, Shahenshah, Imran Ehsan, Lyner, Yehom,  

 
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, March 17 at 17:00 EDT.
 
The mafia have to declare who is making the factional kill. If that player is blocked, then the kill fails.

[Yehom]

Guys 3 days. Sha answer my questions please

[Imran Ehsan]

well iSocialisms bedroom party analogu and deductions completely went over my head. i am not sure what he is even trying to say.

 

@Shah - if I dont see a full reveal of your actions within the next 24 hrs my vote will be on you. At this stage of the game there is no reason why a townie should be hiding his actions specially as he has already revealed his role.

[iSocialism]

well iSocialisms bedroom party analogu and deductions completely went over my head. i am not sure what he is even trying to say.

 

@Shah - if I dont see a full reveal of your actions within the next 24 hrs my vote will be on you. At this stage of the game there is no reason why a townie should be hiding his actions specially as he has already revealed his role.

what is X?

[Shahenshah]

N1: Kaz use Vanilla Cop ability on R2V and found him to be non Vanilla. I don't know why he did that.

 

N2: Tracked Rafey on N2, he was my biggest suspect as I had mentioned when I jumped into the game in my first or second post, he visited Samus. 

 

N3: Watched Lyner, was the only confirmed townie, Tho, I was'nt 100% sure how important his role was at the time, so I thought I'll watch him to see if any scum bites.

 

N4: Did protection on Yehom, I will not say what type. I suppose people figured Lyner was doc by this time, so I expected Yehom to protect Lyner, I figured scum would still aim for Lyner or Yehom because they are IMO the strongest roles we have. I had confirmed with Kevin beforehand and separately (as I didnt want to discuss it in front of scum) if doc protects bodyguard and if bodyguard protects doc and if doc is targetted, will doc or bodyguard die? Kevin confirmed that bodyguard in such instance will die. I dont know if scum knew this or not, but yea, I thought I'll use that to my advantage. So I protected Yehom. No idea if he was targeted or not. Knowing all this, I argued with Yehom to throw off scum so they'd think I would not target Yehom for protection.

 

@Yehom: Regarding your questions:

1. Do I have Protection: Yes, if you guys insist on wanting to know what type, let me know. But it will impact decision making of scum.

2. Do I have Cop: Kaz used on N1, I do not have any other, If I did, that would have been my preferred mode of investigation in the first few days and I'd have shared that information much much earlier and seeked protection.  

 

Yehom, knowing the mechanic regarding doc-bodyguard I mentioned above, just double check the plan of action you have suggested earlier. 

 

My preference as always has been I'd rather not pick on inactives. That's a lesson we all learned on N1. We have a couple of replacements lined up already. I suggest Kevin pings EM, if he isnt around, we find replacement immediately. 

[Lyner]

Actually that sounds solid, Shah

 

 

Current list of suspects:

-Finster

-ccabal

-iSoc

-EM

[Finster Baby]

Based on Shah's answer:

UNVOTE

At this rate I lean towards either EM or ccabal.

[The Warrior]

 

N4: Did protection on Yehom, I will not say what type. I suppose people figured Lyner was doc by this time, so I expected Yehom to protect Lyner, I figured scum would still aim for Lyner or Yehom because they are IMO the strongest roles we have. I had confirmed with Kevin beforehand and separately (as I didnt want to discuss it in front of scum) if doc protects bodyguard and if bodyguard protects doc and if doc is targetted, will doc or bodyguard die? Kevin confirmed that bodyguard in such instance will die. I dont know if scum knew this or not, but yea, I thought I'll use that to my advantage. So I protected Yehom. No idea if he was targeted or not. Knowing all this, I argued with Yehom to throw off scum so they'd think I would not target Yehom for protection.

This was a solid strategy. I think this might finally explain why no one died last night.

 

Actually that sounds solid, Shah

 

 

Current list of suspects:

-Finster

-ccabal

-iSoc

-EM

This is where I'm looking now as well. Which direction are you leaning here, Lyner?

 

From most likely scum to least likely scum, I would rank this group as:

1) ccabal

2) EM

3) iSoc

4) Finster

[Finster Baby]

I have EM/ccabal as 1a/1b type situation. Leaning towards ccabal only because when I checked EM last night he didn't do anything, although that's not the be all/end all.

I'll probably flip a coin or something.

[Yehom]

Is it normal for mafia to have similar roles that would also exist for townies, i.e. watchers etc. I believe that both ccabal and Finster have the powers that they claim, but again what their alliance is to I'm highly suspicious. 

 

As for EM, I believe that he's scum based on his behavior this whole game. Lurking, never really active enough to argue for the town as a whole, not providing us with new information or his thoughts about the matter. However Lyner's claim that he was protected N1 and there wasn't anybody killed that night make me doubt this strategy. 

 

All in all, my plan still stands, we need to find at least one mafia today to make it through the night and continue to let Imran do his job. 

 

@ Sha: do you have any cop abilities left?

[Shahenshah]

Is it normal for mafia to have similar roles that would also exist for townies, i.e. watchers etc. I believe that both ccabal and Finster have the powers that they claim, but again what their alliance is to I'm highly suspicious. 

 

As for EM, I believe that he's scum based on his behavior this whole game. Lurking, never really active enough to argue for the town as a whole, not providing us with new information or his thoughts about the matter. However Lyner's claim that he was protected N1 and there wasn't anybody killed that night make me doubt this strategy. 

 

All in all, my plan still stands, we need to find at least one mafia today to make it through the night and continue to let Imran do his job. 

 

@ Sha: do you have any cop abilities left?

 

Hi, 

 

I  mentioned I didnt..There was one, used by Kaz on N1. If I had, trust me, I wouldn't be using tracker or watcher

[Imran Ehsan]

@iSocialism - i got no result from the mod that referred to "X" when i was given the investigation results for last night.

 

@Shah - interesting claims. a couple of questions.

 

1. Did you see anyone use their action on Lyner N3?

2. what made you think yehom will protect Lyner last night? i guess what i am trying to ask is why not try to protect the doc directly?

[Yehom]

what made you think yehom will protect Lyner last night? i guess what i am trying to ask is why not try to protect the doc directly?

 

I actually did protect Lyner, so he got that right

 

Also I would like to point out that I've asked Kevin before and protection doesn't chain like I've said before. I'm cannon fodder and mafia won't be stupid enough to target someone in this chain of protection next night I hope for their sake, they're not stupid enough to kill directly if that happened. What I think is more plausible is that they went after Imran who was under the direct protection of Lyner

[Imran Ehsan]

 

what made you think yehom will protect Lyner last night? i guess what i am trying to ask is why not try to protect the doc directly?

 

I actually did protect Lyner, so he got that right

 

Also I would like to point out that I've asked Kevin before and protection doesn't chain like I've said before. I'm cannon fodder and mafia won't be stupid enough to target someone in this chain of protection next night I hope for their sake, they're not stupid enough to kill directly if that happened. What I think is more plausible is that they went after Imran who was under the direct protection of Lyner

 

 

Fair enough. I also like Lyner's suggestion that protective roles repeat what they did last night since that worked. But Lyner should not definitely say who he will protect at night otherwise scum will work around that strategy.

 

Agreed also with Lyner and TWs shortlist of scum. I would prefer lynching Ccabal or EM today with FB as 3rd choice. With Lyner confirming he protected EM on N1 when there were no kills ccabal will probably be the safer option, but i wont be surprised if both are scum.

[Shahenshah]

 

what made you think yehom will protect Lyner last night? i guess what i am trying to ask is why not try to protect the doc directly?

 

I actually did protect Lyner, so he got that right

 

Also I would like to point out that I've asked Kevin before and protection doesn't chain like I've said before. I'm cannon fodder and mafia won't be stupid enough to target someone in this chain of protection next night I hope for their sake, they're not stupid enough to kill directly if that happened. What I think is more plausible is that they went after Imran who was under the direct protection of Lyner

 

 

ok maybe im missing something, but we dont know if lyner protected Imran...

[Yehom]

ok maybe im missing something, but we dont know if lyner protected Imran

 

Sorry that was my assumption, I said it was more plausible that Lyner blocked that kill and not you

[Shahenshah]

 

ok maybe im missing something, but we dont know if lyner protected Imran

 

Sorry that was my assumption, I said it was more plausible that Lyner blocked that kill and not you

 

I agree the probability of that would be higher. 

 

What all that occurred last night worked, so all the actors need to think along those lines, be smart. 

 

Ccabal, any chance you can respond before we're too close to deadline? 

[The Warrior]

He has been active on the forums each day for the last several but has not posted here.

[Lyner]

Ccabal it is then, for now