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[Lysistrata]

 

I wasn't aware Jon was dead for more than 12 hours, if he was gone for days he'd have started to get pretty ripe, especially since magic was not yet involved.

 

Well it was definitely more than 12 hrs if not 2 days. He was stabbed at night. Davos finds his body (probably early morning) and barricades himself in a room. Thorne gives them until sundown to surrender. Wildlings arrive and take over. More talk and blah bla. Finally melisandre decides to use her magic on him. So if not 2 days he was dead for at least a day and half. He probably didnt rot because of the low temperature, plus the show ignores such minor things.

 

In the book, I wont be surprised if Melisandre revives him a lot faster than they showed in the show.

 

Jon looked pretty damn good for a dead guy. I know why he didn't show a single sign of decomposition... it's in the script.

[Samus]

 

 

I wasn't aware Jon was dead for more than 12 hours, if he was gone for days he'd have started to get pretty ripe, especially since magic was not yet involved.

 

Well it was definitely more than 12 hrs if not 2 days. He was stabbed at night. Davos finds his body (probably early morning) and barricades himself in a room. Thorne gives them until sundown to surrender. Wildlings arrive and take over. More talk and blah bla. Finally melisandre decides to use her magic on him. So if not 2 days he was dead for at least a day and half. He probably didnt rot because of the low temperature, plus the show ignores such minor things.

 

In the book, I wont be surprised if Melisandre revives him a lot faster than they showed in the show.

 

Jon looked pretty damn good for a dead guy. I know why he didn't show a single sign of decomposition... it's in the script.

 

gonna start using that lol "it's in the script"

[Ali bin Turban]

Show's great, even though khals death scene was cheap as hell. I think it's really no shame or hating to say that there are parts which could have been done better. Overall it's pretty enjoyable to watch, so there's no need to cover those shortcomings with "it's in the script" blanket .

[Shahenshah]

Too much plot armor around Dany.

[Sister Midnight]

Too much plot armor around Dany.

Not sure what you mean about plot armor.

[Ali bin Turban]

What character you'd bet a lot of your money on that they will not die in the next 6 episodes? That's right, it's Daenerys and that's what you call a plot armor .

[Samus]

What character you'd bet a lot of your money on that they will not die in the next 6 episodes? That's right, it's Daenerys and that's what you call a plot armor .

*talking from a non book reader perspective*

 

I never once thought Ned Stark would die.

[Sister Midnight]

What character you'd bet a lot of your money on that they will not die in the next 6 episodes? That's right, it's Daenerys and that's what you call a plot armor .

*talking from a non book reader perspective*
 
I never once thought Ned Stark would die.

QFT. Same with Robb. I had a hissy fit with Robb, the guy who got me into the series had to swear that no one good would die in the following book, in order to keep reading.

[Fermion]

And then Ygritte died

[DarkFox]

I never once thought Ned Stark would die.

 

 

It is kind of like when the movie Alien first came out. Everyone assumed that John Hurt's character was the main character but then he died. Then Of course they would assume that it had to be the Captain, a strong guy who is obviously American. Then he died off and Suddenly it is Weaver's character that is the actual main character. They have done that same trick on us several times already.  Ned Stark, Robb Stark, and a lot of characters who could have been.

[Samus]

 

I never once thought Ned Stark would die.

 

 

It is kind of like when the movie Alien first came out. Everyone assumed that John Hurt's character was the main character but then he died. Then Of course they would assume that it had to be the Captain, a strong guy who is obviously American. Then he died off and Suddenly it is Weaver's character that is the actual main character. They have done that same trick on us several times already.  Ned Stark, Robb Stark, and a lot of characters who could have been.

 

also if you look back at the beginning seasons, Jon Snow was nothing close to main characters, same could be argued about Dany

 

Look at them now

[DarkFox]

Exactly my point. No one expected Ripley to be the survivor if they had to guess at the start.

[Lysistrata]

 

I never once thought Ned Stark would die.

 

 

It is kind of like when the movie Alien first came out. Everyone assumed that John Hurt's character was the main character but then he died. Then Of course they would assume that it had to be the Captain, a strong guy who is obviously American. Then he died off and Suddenly it is Weaver's character that is the actual main character. They have done that same trick on us several times already.  Ned Stark, Robb Stark, and a lot of characters who could have been.

 

I remember being totally shocked when Samuel L. Jackson dies so quickly in Deep Blue Sea... Alien was revolutionary when it came out... I think I saw it 4 times in theaters, just awesome.

[Ali bin Turban]

 

What character you'd bet a lot of your money on that they will not die in the next 6 episodes? That's right, it's Daenerys and that's what you call a plot armor .

*talking from a non book reader perspective*

 

I never once thought Ned Stark would die.

 

But when he died you surely had a though like "wow...none is safe here". You couldn't point true main characters in the westeros plotline part because there are multiple key players out there. In fact there are so many of them you can snipe quite a number and a show will not loose momentum. In fact it may gain some due to unexpected twists.

For example take a look at Lannisters. There were 5 equally important characters. You could surprise a viewer by killing of any number of them in any combination. Remaining ones would be strong enough and important enough to push the plot forward. You could even wipe them out completely because there are other houses that would quickly took their spot (though admittedly they're not portrayed as detailed as Lannisters).

 

Now take a look at the other side of the narrow sea. Daenerys is the main and only pillar of that plotline. There are few supporting characters but none that can be viewed as equal to her. Noone is able to push the plot forward in case she dies (though tyrion - dragons building relationship can alleviate this issue).

[Samus]

Episode 5 starts here

 

OMG HOLD THE DOOR

[Hung Wang]

lol

 

still waiting for something major this season, although this and the last episode were very nice.

[Sister Midnight]

I don't think things are going to work out well at River Run, do you?  Forgetting the books, uncle whats-his-face was last seen at the red wedding getting hitched to Walder Frey's daughter while his sister and nephew were getting murdered.

[Fermion]

Why isn't it there on the internet yet!

[Chaplain of death]

I don't think things are going to work out well at River Run, do you?  Forgetting the books, uncle whats-his-face was last seen at the red wedding getting hitched to Walder Frey's daughter while his sister and nephew were getting murdered.

 

The guy at River Run that they mentioned is the Black Fish. Hes that guys father, and he actually escaped the red wedding because he left right before shit went down.

[Samus]

Why isn't it there on the internet yet!

it was, it got leaked before it aired