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[Falzis]

You know, I'm actually near giving up. I'm really at a lost anymore how to prove my innocence. You or SJ have already said that anything I say could be a big WIFOM and conceded it will look that way.

The only thing I will add from your analysis KevinH is CD was more or less a sure townie. Scum wants to retain people who everyone is not sure of. CD has been proclaimed townie because of an inherited role from an inactive while you have been twice in the chopping block. This means that scum wanted to create more ambiguous situations for town to doubt and not make a convincing and united vote.

Plus, since you were the one who built the case against me, and they know you would, when my alignment is shown as townie, they can make a case for your head the next day (if you really are a townie). I'm betting there is a scum if not two amongst the three people who have already voted for me.

VOTE COUNT
Falzis (3): Kaziocore, Sir Jesus, Theophilos
No Lynch (1): Falzis

Not Voting (4): Nerau, Martino, KevinH, Aquinas

With 8 Alive, 5 is needed to lynch.

Narsis is V/LA from 5 days from the 27th.

Edited by molestargazer, 30 July 2009 - 11:19 AM.

[Falzis]

And the way you've been posting this day is more reminiscent of the KevinH I know. Why weren't you this critical even on Day 2 or 3 (I'd understand on D1 of course)?

[KevinH]

And the way you've been posting this day is more reminiscent of the KevinH I know. Why weren't you this critical even on Day 2 or 3 (I'd understand on D1 of course)?

It's the way I always play. In this game, my approach is to analyze in the context of what is known, not what somebody sees in a "scum-tell".

When we lynched Sojourner the townie, there really wasn't any evidence (although I admit that there wasn't much evidence on anybody yet somebody had to be lynched). At that point, I wanted to hold those that did the lynching accountable. I posted what I could but there wasn't much to go on.

When we lynched Electric Mango the scum, things suddenly got interesting. We now have a chance to look back on things with a new perspective, knowing he was scum.

[KevinH]

Who's the third one ... I have my eye on SJ and Narsis-Nerau ... somehow I still don't see Kazio as scum ...

I am truly undecided about the third. I'm not not even 100% sure about Falzis.

The battle goes not always to the strong,
nor the race to the swift,
but that's the way to bet!

[KevinH]

Activity seems a little slow. I'll be gone this weekend so you won't hear from me then.

I'd like to hear from Martino and Aquinas. If either wants to vote Falzis, then I'll add the last vote and we can go into the night. If somebody wants to make a case for lynching somebody else, I'd like to hear it.

[Aquinas]

Done.

Vote: Falzis

Clear conspiring with Electric Mango, the only confirmed scum.
Drastic play style differences.
-voting no lynch
-dramatic rather than logically toned posts
<Theory>
-mafia goons must vote similarly together and can not vote once one is dead
-confirms friendliness together
-confirms immediate no lynch vote

Sorry about this posts lameness but, im headed out of town right now. I will be gone over the weekend. Good luck.

[KevinH]

Let there be night.

Vote: Falzis

[molestargazer]

VOTE COUNT
Falzis (5): Kaziocore, Sir Jesus, Theophilos, Aquinas, KevinH
No Lynch (1): Falzis

Not Voting (2): Nerau, Martino

With 8 Alive, 5 is needed to lynch.

Narsis is V/LA from 5 days from the 27th.

Day breaks, and within an hour of discussion starting, Falzis' protestations are swept aside as he is unceremoniously dragged to the noose and hung. Eager with anticipation, the reamining inmates rush to his cell to find... nothing?!

Falzis, TOWNIE, has been lynched.
It is now NIGHT 4. Night actions to me by SUNDAY 2nd AUGUST.

[molestargazer]

Day dawns. The cafeteria is now to starting to resemble something from a horror movie, with the blooded tables underneath the noose where, yesterday, the body of Falzis hung. There are bodies in one corner, starting to pile up. And yet only ONE of the many dead was one who deserved it. The members of the hospital are now in panic - they know that their time is running out.
There is no air of surprise when they discover one of their number is missing. This time, Aquinas has faced the knife of the intruders. A search of his room finds nothing.

Aquinas, TOWNIE, has been killed.

It is now DAY 5.
Deadline is MONDAY 17TH AUGUST.

[Falzis]

Told you so.

[Narsis]

ok a few things things:

first, yesterday went by way too fast.

secondly, @Kaziocore: why the quick vote on Falzis yesterday?

thirdly, we are most likely at LYLO today.

fourthly, i'm going to go over voting patterns and such tomorrow(in RL). the game has been going on long enough that we should be able to find mafia from that.

[Martino]

ok a few things things:

first, yesterday went by way too fast.

Yeah, I am not so happy about that either. Even if there was a consensus that we should lynch Falzis, we could still have used the remaining time to discuss the rest of the players. Anyway, I'd like to apologize for not posting yesterday, but I was doing a reread of D3 and when I was done I discovered that the day was already over.

KevinH - why did you think it was a good idea to finish the day that fast? Even if Falzis would have been a scum, wouldn't we still have been able to get more information by waiting a few days? Also, why did you first want to have someone else vote before hammering Falzis? Why not just place that 4th vote?

[Kaziocore]

[quote name='Narsis' date='Aug 3 2009, 02:14 PM' post='107963']
secondly, @Kaziocore: why the quick vote on Falzis yesterday?
/quote]

I was really convinced that he was scum. I don't see the reason not to vote him back then.
Also why did you comment on that on Day 4?

Now I think I see the strategy EM used. He knows that Falzis is in danger of being lynched. Knowing that he is townie, he tried to defend him so that when we lynch Falzis, we will think that EM is townie because he defended a townie. We were just lucky that EM was lynched.

[Kaziocore]

secondly, @Kaziocore: why the quick vote on Falzis yesterday?

I was really convinced that he was scum. I don't see the reason not to vote him back then.
Also why did you not comment on that on Day 4?

Now I think I see the strategy EM used. He knows that Falzis is in danger of being lynched. Knowing that he is townie, he tried to defend him so that when we lynch Falzis, we will think that EM is townie because he defended a townie. We were just lucky that EM was lynched.

[KevinH]

Activity seems a little slow. I'll be gone this weekend so you won't hear from me then.

I'd like to hear from Martino and Aquinas. If either wants to vote Falzis, then I'll add the last vote and we can go into the night. If somebody wants to make a case for lynching somebody else, I'd like to hear it.

Activity was slow.
I was going to be gone anyway.
Nobody made a case for lynching somebody else.
I thought Falzis was the best candidate for a lynch.

Where do we go from here?

[Sir Jesus]

KevinH - why did you think it was a good idea to finish the day that fast? Even if Falzis would have been a scum, wouldn't we still have been able to get more information by waiting a few days? Also, why did you first want to have someone else vote before hammering Falzis? Why not just place that 4th vote?

I'm thinking along the same line ... It seems like KevinH specifically wanted to place the hammer vote. Hmm... I must look through the thread again.

[Narsis]

I was really convinced that he was scum. I don't see the reason not to vote him back then.
Also why did you not comment on that on Day 4?

Now I think I see the strategy EM used. He knows that Falzis is in danger of being lynched. Knowing that he is townie, he tried to defend him so that when we lynch Falzis, we will think that EM is townie because he defended a townie. We were just lucky that EM was lynched.

because i was V/LA...

[Kaziocore]

You posted V/LA after I already voted...

[KevinH]

We also have the voting to consider.

Day 2

sojourner (6): Falzis, original-Narsis, Electric Mango, Kaziocore, Aquinas, Sir Jesus

Falzis (4): Martino, Theophilos, KevinH, sojourner

Day 3

KevinH (4): Falzis, Sir Jesus, new-Narsis, Electric Mango

Electric Mango (6): Martino, Aquinas, Kaziocore, KevinH, CanucksDynasty, Theophilos

Falzis and Sir Jesus are the only two that voted to lynch a townie and not lynch a scum. Falzis sure seems like a better candidate than Sir Jesus.

My suspicion remains on Falzis.

I was wrong about Falzis.

FOS: Sir Jesus

[KevinH]

Dead townies speak:

(to EM) Sir Jesus has no free pass in my book. In fact I have a few suspicions about him. However, if he is scum and if you are scum I'll lynch you first to help squelch the scum influence over the townies.

You're forgetting that the case will be different if EM is scum since it would be illogical for scum to vote for fellow scum. Lol that was the point, if EM is scum, no scum could have voted for EM especially if they could have just tied the vote or tilted it towards Kevin. Right?

That's why, I will be shocked to find out if EM is scum. Since that would mean SJ and Narsis are scum.

Any other suggestions?