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[Theophilos]

KevinH could (just to confuse junkahoolik a bit more and myself as well have one of the other "power" roles on the pro-town side that give him some kind of insight ... or not ...

VOTE COUNT
sojourner (3): Kaziocore, Electric Mango, Falzis
KevinH (3): Aquinas, Sir Jesus, sojourner
Theophilos (1): Martino
No Lynch (1): KevinH

Not Voting (5): Narsis, junkahoolik, Theophilos, Calderone, Nerau

With 13 alive, 7 is needed to lynch.

Edited by molestargazer, 03 June 2009 - 10:58 AM.

[junkahoolik]

it's not that... i thought falzis placed a FoS on both sej and kevin... guess i was wrong

[Falzis]

No my vote is still on sojourner but I'm eyeing KevinH as well. I'm waiting for sojourner to post...

[Electric Mango]

No my vote is still on sojourner but I'm eyeing KevinH as well

I find it interesting that we both voted for the same person and both FOS'd the same person. I also said that you were 1 person that I was picking up townie hints on. Maybe because we're agreeing on things that I gave you some townie points.

As far as the lynch/no lynch debate, it's definitely in the towns best interest to go for a lynch. The odds don't lie.

Also KevinH's logic about following the cop is flawed IMHO. If the cop investigates someone and is innocent the odds of that same person being put up for a lynch will be very slim. IF it were to happen what will the cop do then? Obviously he won't come out and say that he's the cop and therefore will not give us any obvious clues either. There is a great chance that his comments of protest will go unheeded anyway. The cop is far more valuable in the later stages then in the early ones. Later in the game he might be willing to role claim because of the precious info he has but never in the beginning.

[Kaziocore]

What does FOS mean?

[Narsis]

Finger of Suspicion.

anyway i forgot you were playing Kazi. gotta post more.

[Kaziocore]

I don't know how to play this game.
I thought people here would roleplay or something like hello I'm a crazy person and I will shoot you all and stuff like that.

[junkahoolik]

I don't know how to play this game.
I thought people here would roleplay or something like hello I'm a crazy person and I will shoot you all and stuff like that.

well the crazy persons are role playing to be innocent so we gotta flush them out with logic and leads and suspicion and overaccusations and stuff like that. post more though. you'll get the hang of it soon enough...

and where is that sejourner??

[Kaziocore]

So you people are arguing if it's better to lynch someone right now or not?

[Calzone]

and where is that sejourner??

It's obvious sojourner has gone to the matresses with or without the requisite cannoli.

Vote: sojourner

[Theophilos]

Yes ... whether its better to lynch (possibly kill a mafia) or give up the chance to lynch but still lose townies to mob and/or SK.

That's why we post, to prod and try to get clues on who's who (instead of buying one by A & C Black ) ... so go on post some more

[Martino]

I don't know how to play this game.
I thought people here would roleplay or something like hello I'm a crazy person and I will shoot you all and stuff like that.

In all honesty, I always find day 1 a bit hard myself as well. We have to get leads out of nothing, which is a whole lot harder than later in the game when patterns are becoming visible. Still, the best thing to do now is to try and look for posts that don't seem right to you. Call someone out if you feel their logic is flawed. Put some pressure on someone who is doing things you disagree with. On that note, I'll

unvote

as Theophilos has given me no reason to keep my random vote on him.

The point I was trying to make is that by picking someone to lynch with no information, the town is taking a chance on lynching the cop. Since I am not the cop, that is a "plus". Don't read too much into it.

And why is it a good thing for the town that this information is out in the open? Doesn't the scum benefit much more from getting this information? If you were not lying, they have one less townie to consider for their NK tonight. If you are lying, then it will make your possible future roleclaim lose it's credibility.

[Falzis]

I'm getting good reads on EM, Martino, and junkaholic. Narsis too but not quite as the three.

I like how they're calling KevinH out on seemingly paradoxical and untownie WIFOMs.

[sojourner]

Do not read anything into my absence, I have been working on the academy test.

I am not sure what is going on right now. There seems to be no clear way to choose.

Looking back through the posts I seem to think that there are clear voices of reason...and it is those people that have me wondering. If you are guilty seems to me that you would want to look like someone who is really analyzing everything...people would think you were leading them away from the townies when actually you were leading them away from yourself.

I don't know if that makes sense but I still think Kevin gets my vote. Although I still have a hunch about Narsis.

[Falzis]

The reasons you just gave don't seem to particularly fit your votes on KevinH and Narsis. Again, self-preservation by defending one's self is a principle that any player would follow, townies alike. And how are they analyzing everything?

[Aquinas]

I continue to leave my vote with KevinH for the reason that if we have to lynch a townie, I want it to be one that is not as willing to use his lynch power as others. This gives the players with night kill one less target to pick from. As long as they don't make any overt indication they are anti-town and continue to pick off lynchers eventually, they would have the numbers to win. Not lynching means we let the anti-town roles have their way with us. I want townies with me that will use their lynch power to hunt down anti-towners, its all we got! There aren't going to be many scum-tells this early in the game and thus, assuming we end up lynching a townie due to odds, I want to pick the most deluded poison.

I'd rather not lynch KevinH if its not necessary. As many people have pointed out, vouching for a different strategy isn't necessarily a scum tell. In fact at this point considering my new information about his history using this strategy, I think he is probably town. However, my vote will rest with him because of the reasons I mentioned. If more conclusive evidence comes up of anti-town roles, i'll instantly change my vote. I am not going to condemn anyone for playing a different way than me, its just the best option for now.

I feel like we're collectively closing the discussion on lynch/no lynch so i'll move on.

What is the rationale for voting Sojourner at this point? I missed the posts about the evidence against him. I gathered he is a bandwagoner, is that all we got?

[Falzis]

Defending on sojourner's behalf much? And pushing for KevinH's head much?

Not just he's a bandwagoner but the lack of logical basis for his votes. His recent post proves as much.

[KevinH]

I continue to leave my vote with KevinH for the reason that if we have to lynch a townie, I want it to be one that is not as willing to use his lynch power as others.

Just to clarify, I only advocate a no-lynch on day 1. If there are 7 people that want to lynch on day 1, lynching me will not improve your lynch power on day 2.

... I think he is probably town.

So lynching me helps the town how?

[Aquinas]

@ Falzis: I'm not defending Sojourner, I just was unaware of the evidence against him. Is he an experienced player or is his illogical behavior due to being a rookie? I don't know much about him.

@ KevinH: Alright that clears up a lot KevinH. I understood it that your strategy was to wait to lynch until their was clear evidence of a anti-town role. I probably read you wrong, thats my mistake. I apologize for coming down on you so hard, considering that it was a misunderstanding. I still don't necessarily agree with a no lynch strat but, I do not think you should get lynched for it as I made clear in my earlier post. I was only trying to convey that someone without the guts to lynch later in the game would be a detriment to the town as often we need to make a clutch decision. I believe you have the guts to do it and I think you've got the know-how to play the game seeing as you've so diligently defended your no lynch strat. I hope this clears things up for you. I don't want you to think I was really after your head, besides the fact that I disagreed with your strategy allbeit wrongly.

UNVOTE

[junkahoolik]

the plot thinned!! oooh, sorry, thickens!!

good job on calling off the vote on Kevin if you suspect he is sided with the town. find someone who is scummier and try to convince everybody else he is scum