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[TW-06] Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Mafia - Mafia Win!

Harry Potter Order of the Phoenix Mafia

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So Wolfpacks claimed VT; SLMK claimed one shot. (Could explain why he came out about the role. He isn't scared to be the target of a Night kill.)

Both of the above I also see could be hiding a real PR. Wolfpacks claiming VT to not draw attention to a role, and SLMK picking one shot as sort of reverse physiology to test whether mafia will try to kill him or not. Then FS claims a name, not a role. The problem is a PR can be either town or scum. With the setup, we do know at least 1 is mafia. As I see wagons forming on SLMK and WP and FS

I do believe we have a PR for us among this group, But also scum as well.. it's really a guessing game.

With that being said, I'm more worried a town PR exists between SLMK and FS than I am WP.

While it's possible the VT is a front to hide his PR from scum, it can also be a front to hide his PR from the town should be a scum role. If he is telling the truth, sadly we would lose a town but avoid a PR. And we'd know tomorrow a scum exists between FS and SLMK.

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Again this isn't that I feel Wolfpacks is more or less scum than the other two. I just see the most benefit for the town in the long run. We avoid a PR if he is telling the truth and we start tomorrow with a 50/50 chance of hitting scum OR we hit the scum now. My only worry is WP lied and holds a PR.

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I'm just wondering. I strongly believe one of them is scum. After taking one out, which is most likely going to happen. Rather it be a town or scum. We will have two left over at night, meaning they're going to investigated. If we don't hit scum. However, the scum team might have a framer getting ready to frame the other one. Meaning any if we investigate the right one, it can be disputed on who the actual scum is. If we get the wrong one, we can get the wrong one again. With 11 players left on day 5? Luckily we will hit the right one that time.

 

This is why I'm always curious on the way people who vote for SLMK and against him. To also see how they will vote now. Till them my vote will be delay and rushed before the days over. Investigations should be used with caution. Don't worry to much about the neighbors when they're are other skating by.


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Hm. I'm not sure why MK's roleclaim actually makes much difference. Anyone can claim to be a bulletproof. I think I'd probably have voted MK immediately after the roleclaim, but since then WP has been pretty dodgy. I just don't know.

 

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I'm just wondering. I strongly believe one of them is scum. After taking one out, which is most likely going to happen. Rather it be a town or scum. We will have two left over at night, meaning they're going to investigated. If we don't hit scum. However, the scum team might have a framer getting ready to frame the other one. Meaning any if we investigate the right one, it can be disputed on who the actual scum is. If we get the wrong one, we can get the wrong one again. With 11 players left on day 5? Luckily we will hit the right one that time.

 

This is why I'm always curious on the way people who vote for SLMK and against him. To also see how they will vote now. Till them my vote will be delay and rushed before the days over. Investigations should be used with caution. Don't worry to much about the neighbors when they're are other skating by.

 

It doesn't seem positively likely that there's a framer though. (Then again, I'm pretty new to these games, does TW often throw in framers?) If someone comes out the door tomorrow and says that they're the cop and that X person they've investigated is scum, I'm inclined to believe them and I think most people will follow suit.

 

I agree that I want to wait and see what happens today for information later.


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​Vote: Wolfpacks

​The reason is clear there cant be two of us in one  neighborhood and I see your clams are false
 


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FS108, on 31 May 2017 - 01:45, said:

Unvote: Lyner

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​The reason is clear there cant be two of us in one  neighborhood and I see your clams are false
 

 

I'm not following you here - there can't be two of what exactly in one neighbourhood? VT? I don't see why there can't be two VT. Also, have you even claimed to be VT? 

 

Also, what claims are false? His scepticism that there's a scum among the neighbours?


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Kitkat16, on 31 May 2017 - 01:50, said:

 

FS108, on 31 May 2017 - 01:45, said:

Unvote: Lyner

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​The reason is clear there cant be two of us in one  neighborhood and I see your clams are false
 

 

I'm not following you here - there can't be two of what exactly in one neighbourhood? VT? I don't see why there can't be two VT. Also, have you even claimed to be VT? 

 

Also, what claims are false? His scepticism that there's a scum among the neighbours?

 

 

I am not clamming my role but he has lied about one thing. All I have the power is to vote but if my vote is wrong then SMLK is scum. just saying not to save my skin but since both are neighbors one has to be scum all I can say it isn't me. unless you think redheads are evil :(


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FS108, on 31 May 2017 - 01:55, said:

 

 

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FS108, on 31 May 2017 - 01:45, said:

Unvote: Lyner

​Vote: Wolfpacks

​The reason is clear there cant be two of us in one  neighborhood and I see your clams are false
 

 

I'm not following you here - there can't be two of what exactly in one neighbourhood? VT? I don't see why there can't be two VT. Also, have you even claimed to be VT? 

 

Also, what claims are false? His scepticism that there's a scum among the neighbours?

 

 

I am not clamming my role but he has lied about one thing. All I have the power is to vote but if my vote is wrong then SMLK is scum. just saying not to save my skin but since both are neighbors one has to be scum all I can say it isn't me. unless you think redheads are evil :(

 

 

I'm still confused. You said there can't be two of us in one neighbourhood. Two of what, exactly? You said earlier "I don't believe aka wolfpacks because I know my role" and then you just said you weren't roleclaiming?

 

Also, what did he lie about exactly? Do you mean his accusation that you were scum?

 

Don't worry, I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm just trying to clarify what you're saying.


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Kitkat16, on 31 May 2017 - 02:02, said:

 

FS108, on 31 May 2017 - 01:55, said:

 

 

Kitkat16, on 31 May 2017 - 01:50, said:

 

FS108, on 31 May 2017 - 01:45, said:

Unvote: Lyner

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​The reason is clear there cant be two of us in one  neighborhood and I see your clams are false
 

 

I'm not following you here - there can't be two of what exactly in one neighbourhood? VT? I don't see why there can't be two VT. Also, have you even claimed to be VT? 

 

Also, what claims are false? His scepticism that there's a scum among the neighbours?

 

 

I am not clamming my role but he has lied about one thing. All I have the power is to vote but if my vote is wrong then SMLK is scum. just saying not to save my skin but since both are neighbors one has to be scum all I can say it isn't me. unless you think redheads are evil :(

 

 

I'm still confused. You said there can't be two of us in one neighbourhood. Two of what, exactly? You said earlier "I don't believe aka wolfpacks because I know my role" and then you just said you weren't roleclaiming?

 

Also, what did he lie about exactly? Do you mean his accusation that you were scum?

 

Don't worry, I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm just trying to clarify what you're saying.

 

his accusation that you were scum?< one of two lies from him yes I am not scum and yes we are neighbors but if he isn't scum then SMLK is but I don't know who is at the moment I can say if I was scum I would kill I soc first thing because I hate Socialists


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Screw this. I have better things to do than spend my entire day looking at this mafia thread before choosing my vote. I'll check back in 10 hours or so when I'm headed to sleep and possibly change my vote then if new stuff comes up or if I change my mind. For the time being though:

 

Vote: SLMK

 

If MK is innocent, I can't think of tortures foul enough to inflict on whichever of the remaining neighbours is scum. (Based on his dodgy posts, WP is my pick.)


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Dammit - I work for one day and all this happens. I'm beyond befuddled.

Based on what I'm reading, there seems to be a consensus that Wolfpacks isn't being 100% truthful.

While my suspicions of FS and MK still exist, I'm going to go with this:

VOTE: Wolfpacks

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WP is up to 5 votes now by my count. Not saying nobody else should vote him, but be careful we don't cut off our deadline.

 

I'm still trying to figure out who to vote. I'll probably make up my decision in the morning, though it seems MK and WP are the top two candidates.


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FS108, on 30 May 2017 - 19:30, said:

Wolfpacks, on 30 May 2017 - 16:33, said:


Sorry misstype i mean FS

Forgot this as well

VOTE FS108

Also since we cant edit FOS Wolfpacks and SLMK
​Reason: I cant tell who is fibbing and who is telling the truth so far one spills the beans saying he is bullet prof which is a bold statement and for an other I don't believe aka wolfpacks because I know my role

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Why can't the neighbours be like masons?
I trust my neighbours. (Well they may be scum as far as i know) ,but can there be such a thing?


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I said that i am forced to do a RC not a vote count.
I have no whining overover doing a mere vote count.

So if a framer is left, how can we identity scum?

I am pretty sure that a framer is here.
TW likes these roles.

Will there be a doc in the game?
If there is, then it is already town favourable.
So TW will have some big roles in scum team to balance the game.
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Finster Baby, on 31 May 2017 - 03:11, said:

]I do reserve the right to flip flop based on new info if it comes available.


I think given the circumstances of what today has brought, flip flipping votes between the 3 isn't going to be looked at too harshly. It's basically a toss up between the 3 and were hoping we strike gold first swing.

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I dunno. Wolfy doesn't feel as scummy as FS. But MK saying he trust his neighbors is absurd, why would a townie trust his neighbors given that it is almost certainly correct that scum is within three neighbors. MK acts like scum,but I'm conflicted because the neighbor role claim puts the spotlight on the three of them and practically confirms 1 of them is scum, which is something scum would not do.

I can be swayed to change my vote, but I may not be around much tomorrow.

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Didnt you know sketchy was the way i play, too many eggs in one basket, ok lets see 5 votes against me that is your choice, my role claim was true and obviously i dont know much about neighbours, i did ask TW to clarify but he did answer me, if i had read what is says in mafia roles i guess i would have not blundered into this blindly.

SMLK outed us all to save his own skin with a role claim of one shot and neighbours, thinking about it im not sure why he did this, why not just tell everyone what his own role was not put myself and FS108 under the bus, he probably would of still saved himself

FS108 hes doing what he has to do to save himself as im doing, but i have noticed that since i voted for him my vote count has gone up.

Myself as ive already claimed im Vanilla town

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Lyner, on 31 May 2017 - 03:24, said:

 

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Wolfpacks, on 30 May 2017 - 16:33, said:

Sorry misstype i mean FS

Forgot this as well

VOTE FS108

Also since we cant edit FOS Wolfpacks and SLMK
​Reason: I cant tell who is fibbing and who is telling the truth so far one spills the beans saying he is bullet prof which is a bold statement and for an other I don't believe aka wolfpacks because I know my role

Are you saying you have a secondary role?

 

I don't although I can say this my character is a redhead


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Supreme Leader MK, on 30 May 2017 - 06:19, said:

Can i get an updated vote count?

Well, we have a huge faction against me.
All those who support me are viewed as scum by town, mainly yehom and yehom and FB.
(No offense, lyner, but you are most probably D3 lynch, since after they take me out, and with no other evidence, they will turn to you)

Hope you guys don't take out the one role which can help town win this game.

 

Just gonna drop this gem for people who are still on the fence about which of the 3 is scum. He hinted at being the ONE role that can help town win the game. Later claims to be one-shot bulletproof. Hardly a game winning role. My money is on a failed bluff to get people to stop voting for him followed by a more reasonable role claim that won't be countered. There's plenty on each of them at this point that makes me believe their towniness less and less.



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Chaplain of death, on 31 May 2017 - 08:41, said:

 

Supreme Leader MK, on 30 May 2017 - 06:19, said:

Can i get an updated vote count?

Well, we have a huge faction against me.
All those who support me are viewed as scum by town, mainly yehom and yehom and FB.
(No offense, lyner, but you are most probably D3 lynch, since after they take me out, and with no other evidence, they will turn to you)

Hope you guys don't take out the one role which can help town win this game.

 

Just gonna drop this gem for people who are still on the fence about which of the 3 is scum. He hinted at being the ONE role that can help town win the game. Later claims to be one-shot bulletproof. Hardly a game winning role. My money is on a failed bluff to get people to stop voting for him followed by a more reasonable role claim that won't be countered. There's plenty on each of them at this point that makes me believe their towniness less and less.

 

 

Are you saying all three of them are scum? I find that unlikely. Surely he wouldn't risk outing three of the scum team, which is only going to be about 4-5 people strong.

 

But you make a good point. Any comment on this, MK?


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I still find MK's actions scummy to say the least. I'm not buying your town bona fides in your RC, my friend.

I'd like to see a vote count.
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