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[SeaBeeGipson]

So my reply deleted when I was about to finish it. Isn't that my luck?

 

Anyway, I agree primarily with KC's evaluated except on a few parts. His stance on KitKat and Rhizo, I feel, were a little off. Rhizo is not a supposed townie at the moment, to me. My only collation at putting his as a townie would be in the event of a KitKat lynch turning him as scum. I feel that would give us information regarding KC's standing as well. We see KitKat has gotten into disagreements with both KC (prior day) and Rhizo (today.) 

 

I will say, it totally skipped by my mind that Rhizo left the wagon before the lynch until reading everyone bringing it up. It's worth noting Rhizo also had a major wagon forming on him as well, and could've placed his vote back.

Another note, is that prior to his unvote, both KitKat and myself had a small gathering of votes. Rhizo decided to vote someone who NO votes. Another note is that Lord Sunday already had a vote on me (confirmed scum now), and Rhizo, if scum, would've placed 2 out of 3 scums on ONE wagon. If that had gotten traction and ended in my lynch, the first thing people would've looked at is the wagon. This would've put Rhizo in a tight spot I'd imagine. The alternative was KitKat with 1 vote. As we see, KitKat is verbal with his defense. Rafay would've been an easier target to form a wagon on.

Of course, this is entirely speculation and these are just notes I feel are worthy of keeping an eye on.

 

I'm not defending Rhizo, in fact, the more I write this, the scummier his actions sound. 

 

If we lynch KitKat, we can gather 1) Rhizo's standings and 2) possibly KC's standing.

If we lynch Rhizo, we can gather 1) KitKat's standings, and 2) KevinH's, who seems pretty attentive on keeping the attention on Rhizo and not himself.

 

I'd rather see a post count for the day, and current vote standings before voting. 

[KevinH]

LordSunday (4): Rhizoctonia, King Cankles, The Warrior, Lyner

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

 
Rhizoctonia says to his scum buddy LordSunday, "You are going to get lynched at deadline, I better get off the wagon. I'll switch to somebody else.
 

Vote: Rafay

Vote Lord Sunday

Vote: Lord Sunday

 
Rhizoctonia says to his scum buddy, "Sorry buddy, I tried but it didn't work"
 

-If LS was scum and Rhizo isn't, he could have cast his vote for Rhizo to save himself for another day and possibly guarantee townie Rhizo's lynch.

 
Rhizoctonia says to himself, "Darn. I've been outed. I better post some walls of text so people will not notice what The Warrior posted."

[The Warrior]

Rhizoctonia says to his scum buddy, "Sorry buddy, I tried but it didn't work"

 

The Warrior, on 01 Sept 2017 - 15:54, said:

-If LS was scum and Rhizo isn't, he could have cast his vote for Rhizo to save himself for another day and possibly guarantee townie Rhizo's lynch.

 

Rhizoctonia says to himself, "Darn. I've been outed. I better post some walls of text so people will not notice what The Warrior posted."

 

I'm not completely writing Rhizo off but you are ignoring the last part of my above quoted post:

 

This would likely require LS to be more active though which he has proven not to be. He may just be writing himself off for this game.

We cannot be certain that LordSunday was even active enough to cast his vote for Rhizo to save himself.

[Rafay]

I will say, it totally skipped by my mind that Rhizo left the wagon before the lynch until reading everyone bringing it up. It's worth noting Rhizo also had a major wagon forming on him as well, and could've placed his vote back.

 

This has been the most tricky part w/ Rhizo. His continuous flip-flopping and then trying to defend his ever-changing stances have always put him as a giant blip on my scum radar. 

 

If we lynch KitKat, we can gather 1) Rhizo's standings and 2) possibly KC's standing. If we lynch Rhizo, we can gather 1) KitKat's standings, and 2) KevinH's, who seems pretty attentive on keeping the attention on Rhizo and not himself.

 

I was thinking exactly that. 

[KevinH]

Rhizoctonia might say, "I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids"

[King Cankles]

I would like a vote count before i make my next post or place my vote.

Isn't there a way to summon a vote count?

Edit: VOTE count and post count, lol

[The Warrior]

Here is the current post count:               

KevinH 32

The Warrior 30

Lord MK 25

Kitkat16 22

Rhizoctonia 20

Canik 19

Rafay 18

King Cankles 15

LordSunday 14

Lyner 13

iSocialism 12

vgmmaster 10

SeaBeeGipson 10

Ferastical 4

FS108 3

 

@iSoc - Do you have any thoughts on the Rhizo/Kitkat feud or Kevin's game behavior?

 

 

**Unofficial vote count**
 

Vote Count
 

Rhizoctonia (2): KevinH, Kitkat16

KevinH (1): The Warrior

Kitkat16 (1): Rhizoctonia
SeaBeeGipson (0):
Rafay (0):
King Cankles (0):
Lyner (0)
The Warrior (0):
iSocialism (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: SeaBeeGipson, Rafay, King Cankles, Lyner, iSocialism

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, September 13 at 5:30 pm GMT

[King Cankles]

Thank you sir ^

Yeah with 5 days left I'd like to hear from Lyner and iSoc before I make any kind of official moves. Because just by a simple glance at the vote count it gives off the vibe that TW and Rhizo are either both scum or both towns. And vice versa for Kit Kat and Kevin. So I think hearing from someone not in that 4-man fight could help me get a better perspective.

[KevinH]

My list from most townie to most scummy
 
I know I'm town

KevinH

   
Voted to lynch a scum           

King Cankles 
The Warrior 
Lyner 
SeaBeeGipson

 

In the middle

Kitkat16 
Rafay 
iSocialism

 

Jumped off the wagon of a now-known scum

Rhizoctonia

[SeaBeeGipson]

I'll possible be silent for the rest of the day, as I may not be back from Houston until after the 13th. It's possible I may return beforehand. I'm placing my vote now but please don't end the day early by filling a wagon up.

 

Vote Rhizo

[Rhizoctonia]

I'll possible be silent for the rest of the day, as I may not be back from Houston until after the 13th. It's possible I may return beforehand. I'm placing my vote now but please don't end the day early by filling a wagon up.

 

Vote Rhizo

 

 

Then you should ask for a replacement

[SeaBeeGipson]

I'll possible be silent for the rest of the day, as I may not be back from Houston until after the 13th. It's possible I may return beforehand. I'm placing my vote now but please don't end the day early by filling a wagon up.
 
Vote Rhizo

 
 
Then you should ask for a replacement

If a replacement is needed for a short term leave from the game, then MK is welcome to make that decision.

[Rhizoctonia]

 

 

I'll possible be silent for the rest of the day, as I may not be back from Houston until after the 13th. It's possible I may return beforehand. I'm placing my vote now but please don't end the day early by filling a wagon up.
 
Vote Rhizo
 

 
 
Then you should ask for a replacement

If a replacement is needed for a short term leave from the game, then MK is welcome to make that decision.

 

 

Don't you think that should be a given?  

[Rhizoctonia]

It's been now 3 days since the day has started and Isocialism has yet to post.  I find it odd outside of TW, no one has called him out or even pressured him.  

 

Unvote

 

Vote:  Isocialism

 

 

iSocialism, on 31 Aug 2017 - 11:55, said:

Ooh, let's create a wagon war. I believe LS is now back at 4 runner up is rhiz at 3, then all one's. If LS flips scum, then rhiz is a high suspect (kevin's point) if rhiz flips scum. Then Kevin is a high suspect (Kevin's latest vote). Along with the high suspect you were have people on the opposing wagon.

 

Vote Rhiz

 

sorry bud, many to due with who gonna to do what. If your town then you will provide great info. However, if your scum. Shame on you

Also how would it be determine if rhiz went up to 5 votes, then back down to 4. Would it be LS that gets lynch because he was the first one to reach four? I figure it would be rhiz just cause he was player to be the latest player with the most lynch.

 

 

And people should look at Kevin if I'm lynched and I come up town.  But also, I encourage them to also look at you.  Kevin's vote puts me at 3, your vote puts me at 4, tied for wagon, and also the needed number of votes needed to lynch at deadline.  You can sugar coat your vote all you want, but your reasoning for voting me is a complete cop out.  Saying, "it will provide great info," and all that jazz is nothing but trying to make an excuse for if I'm lynched and I come up town.  You should be just as guilty if I'm lynched and the rest find out I'm town.

Let alone, its weird you pick me reaching 5 votes and then going back down to 4 on what would happen.  That seems like someone trying to figure out if it's worth a scum buddy to come vote me for a short period to get me to 5, and then later him or a scum jump off to not be on the lynch but still succeed in getting my lynched over LS

 

 

Now I'm not going to beat my head against the wall all day arguing the same points with Kitkat nor Kevin.  I already have repeated myself enough as it is, and I'm not going to continue waste my free time saying the same thing over and over.  That being said, I wanted to see how far someone will go to push my lynch.  See, I knew going into today that I was going to be a target scum look to knock off and use me removing my vote as a reason.  That being said, scum being down someone would not go full throttle into me like both Kitkat and Kevin done so far today.  They would be signing their death wish tomorrow if they succeed in lynching me today.  Scum would keep my name being mentioned, maybe vote, but not be so direct as both have. 

 

I get there's no way to know I'm town, but that's the benefit I have knowing I am town.  I know that the wagon on me yesterday turned into a last ditch effort to save LS.  I know I very likely will be lynched today because I knew the day would be all around me and my vote yesterday and it's all anyone cares about, not the last ditch effort to lynch me.  I'm not all that worried about being lynched, as it will reveal what I've been trying to say and town doesn't lose if we mislynch me today.  We go into tomorrow still 5T - 2 Scum.  

 

I'm a little less worried about Kitkat and Kevin through their demeanor today.  So my sights are on Rafay and Isocialism.  Rafay has played today not being directly gunning for me, but keeps throwing my name around.  This is something I'd expect more from a scum then full on push to lynch me, especially early day.  He's been on my suspect list for 2 days now.  However, he was on my wagon early day yesterday, and Isocialism was at the end.  As I already quoted above, Isocialism's vote was the one to put me at a tie at 4 at the end of the day with LS.  Also the number needed to by lynched at deadline if someone else removed their vote from LS or someone switched to me.  He also mentioned in his response, the idea of what would happen if I got 5 votes and then fell back down to 4, who would be lynched as if to see if it would be worth it for a scum buddy to jump on me or not.  

[KevinH]

I don't mind if an active player lets us know that they'll be gone for a few days.  There are plenty of players that will barely post a couple times during that absence and it's the same effect.

[The Warrior]

I am expecting an answer from iSoc to my questions as well. You need to contribute if you are town. We need your thoughts. I will be voting for you if you don't start participating in a meaningful way. Consider this your warning.

[Lyner]

I don't see why Rhizo should be the only one in the spotlight. As I said before, Kevin and iSoc bear the same suspicions for shifting their vote near the end of the day.

Sure we can lynch Rhizo first, if he is revealed as town then we should jump on Kevin tomorrow

[iSocialism]

IDK if rhiz is trying to save his ass from the vote today. But the constant roll over voting is just baiting to me. Seeing which person will start gathering votes, he's on his third now.
Kevin play style is different from most games, I like this play style the most though. While highly suspicious of Rhiz, Kevin constant poking/jabbing him. Makes me question his motives.

I don't know why kitkat is high on your guy's list. I'm not seeing the connection. He still doesn't lean town, kind of in the middle with him

Rafay has been active way more than in the past. Still cautious about him.

TW has been scum hunting IMO, TW congrats on making this far without being cause as scum for just being alive.

A lot of people were pushing for KC, but in my opinion leans pro town.

I feel like Lyner is staying open minded, and wants the best for town.

SBG has come out firing at people since he has taken the replacement spot. While he can sway town IMO as of right now, he is still scum hunting.

For now though rhiz is at 3 votes I believe. My votes lies

VOTE KEVIN

[King Cankles]

 

 

I'll possible be silent for the rest of the day, as I may not be back from Houston until after the 13th. It's possible I may return beforehand. I'm placing my vote now but please don't end the day early by filling a wagon up.
 
Vote Rhizo
 

 
 
Then you should ask for a replacement

If a replacement is needed for a short term leave from the game, then MK is welcome to make that decision.
 

 
Don't you think that should be a given?  

I've read up a bit and of all things, this conversation actually struck me out. I wasn't suspicious of Rhiz earlier but IMO I don't think he would need a replacement if it was just for a day. Seems like you were just really trying to take the heat off of yourself here. Even I said earlier that I am busy in RL, but nobody suggested I be replaced. SBG has been a big advocate for your lynch. I think you're trying really hard to stop your lynch. Which is reasonable, but if you were town I feel like your attitude would be more pointing towards prodding other people than trying to replace the guy putting heat on you.

I'm still suspicious of Kevin, no doubt.

Honestly I'm pretty scarmlebd right now, I'm gonna keep an eye out and place my vote shortly.

FoS: Rhiz and Kev.

[Rhizoctonia]

IDK if rhiz is trying to save his ass from the vote today. But the constant roll over voting is just baiting to me. Seeing which person will start gathering votes, he's on his third now.
Kevin play style is different from most games, I like this play style the most though. While highly suspicious of Rhiz, Kevin constant poking/jabbing him. Makes me question his motives.

I don't know why kitkat is high on your guy's list. I'm not seeing the connection. He still doesn't lean town, kind of in the middle with him

Rafay has been active way more than in the past. Still cautious about him.

TW has been scum hunting IMO, TW congrats on making this far without being cause as scum for just being alive.

A lot of people were pushing for KC, but in my opinion leans pro town.

I feel like Lyner is staying open minded, and wants the best for town.

SBG has come out firing at people since he has taken the replacement spot. While he can sway town IMO as of right now, he is still scum hunting.

For now though rhiz is at 3 votes I believe. My votes lies

VOTE KEVIN

 

 

I been waiting for your response, it only takes you 4 days.  Still nothing to say about you putting me at 4 votes yesterday, almost causing a mislynch.  My third?  I have voted just 1 person outside of you today, that was Kitkat.  It's called putting pressure on people, you wouldn't know as you come visit the forums every day and yet do not post.  Then you post 1 long response with very little on each person and think you're contributing.  You waited til the end to switch your vote to me when you saw an opportunity to switch the lynch off LS.  This is nothing new, I called you out right after you did it, and I've called the 4 of you out today.  I thought there was a good possibility that either Rafay/Kitkat was a scum voting me early, and Kevin/you for voting me last minute when you saw an option.