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[TW-07] Pokemon Mafia - Town Wins

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I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was.

To catch them is my real test, to maim them is my cause!

I will travel across the thread searching far and wide,

Teach the Mafia to understand, there is nowhere to hide!

Mafia!

Gotta Catch 'em all!

It's you and me, I know it's my destiny!

Mafia!

Oh, you might be my friend,

But please don't stab me in the rear end!

Mafia!

Intent so true? Our courage will pull us through,

You watch me and I'll follow you,

Mafia!

Gotta catch 'em all!

Gotta catch 'em all!

MAFIA!

 

Only the following roles may exist in this game:

Ascetic, Bodyguard, Bulletproof, Commuter, Cop, Cupid, Doctor, Enabler, FBI Agent, Flavor Cop, Follower, Framer, Friendly Neighbor, Godfather, Goon, Gunsmith, Hider, Innocent Child, Jack-of-All-Trades, Jailkeeper, Jester, Mafia Encryptor, Mason, Miller, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Ninja, Nurse, Nymphomaniac, Role Cop, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Serial Killer, Strongman, Super Saint, Tailor, Tracker, Traitor, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Vigilante, Vanilla Townie, Vengeful, Voyeur, Watcher, Watchlisted Townie, Wrong Place at the Wrong Time Townie

 

The following modifiers may also exist in this game:

Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Various Sanities, Weak, X-Shot

 

Quote

Sample Role PM said:

 

You are Pidgey, a normal Pokemon. Your power is in your vote.

 

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

 

 

Players:

 

  1. Ali bin Turban
  2. Atliis (Blastoise), a Skull-Basher (Macho Cop), has been knocked out on night 4.
  3. Brewersalliance (Venusaur), a town Constrict-er (Jailkeeper), has been knocked out on night 7.
  4. Canik (Chansey), a town Heal Pulser (Doctor) has been knocked out on night 2.
  5. Colonel Medved (Rhydon), a 2-Shot Mafia Strength-er (Strongman), has been lynched on day 5.
  6. Darkfox
  7. Jazzy95
  8. KevinH (Gengar), a mafia Destiny Bond-er (Super Saint), has been knocked out on day 6.
  9. Kitkat16 (Hypno), a Mafia Confusion-er (Tailor), has been lynched on day 7.
  10. Lachiton
  11. Lord MK (Arcanine), a 1-shot town Extreme Speeder (Commuter) has been knocked out on day 4.
  12. Mandarijn (Electabuzz), a town Leer-er (Vanilla Townie), has been knocked out on day 6.
  13. Rafay (Machamp), a town Substituter (Bodyguard), has been knocked out on day 3.
  14. Rhizoctonia
  15. Samus Canik v.2 (Snorlax), a Rest-er (Ascetic), has been badly burned on night 4.
  16. SeaBeeGipson
  17. Yehom

Rules:

  • During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
  • If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
  • At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
  • If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, the player who reached that number of votes first will be lynched.
  • You may vote no lynch.
  • After the day, the game goes to night.
  • The game thread is closed during the night. The mafia may speak to each other at night.
  • All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
  • The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
  • After the night, the game goes to day.
  • All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
  • Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
  • The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
  • Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
  • You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
  • When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.

 

  • Active Participation Rule:
    All live players must make a minimum of 3 posts in the game thread per game day. Any player who does not meet the 3 post minimum on a given day will be subject to being mod-killed unless a legitimate reason for the lack of posting is communicated privately to the game mod. (In the event that something comes up that will prevent you from playing actively, please alert the mod so that a potential replacement can be found.) If multiple players have not met the post minimum on a given day, the player with the fewest overall posts will be mod-killed.

 

Game days will last seven days until there are fewer than seven players remaining. Then they will last as many days as there are players left.

Game Nights will last 48 hours.

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Best chance of winning the game? Bodyguard?

 

I appreciate that I was protected but if I had been targeted then the bodyguard would have died instead.

It's certainly a useful role, especially when a cop has role-claimed, but I would not consider the loss of a bodyguard equal to the loss of the best chance to win.

A few things before i get into the discussion. I really hope that people that have been killed or lynched in this game can refrain from posting here if the game is still going. It's in almost all cases unnecessary and ultimately distracting to town (racism, like wtf?). Whatever you say, it won't help town, unless you really disclose something that you didn't, but that's your fault for not putting it out there yourself during the time that you had when you were playing. And even if you do that, you ultimately will break the game which is probably the last thing you want to do unless you're really petty. I've seen it happen a couple times. The odd 'shit I'm dead post', I'm whatever about those but everything beyond that should be avoided for everybody's sake. 

 

Next point: I really hope that we can just please stop with second guessing ourselves every single time people get called out. Whether people are a Jester or not is absolutely the last possible thing that people should consider, it's time consuming, it's mind numbing and most of all it's just plain stupid

 

Now into the discussion:

MK was really flip floppy from D2 to D3. I was willing to hear his side of the story, but after hearing it I'll argue that he's trying to bullshit his way out of the mess he created. Like it's pretty damn convenient that he used most of his powers on Rafay, even though it was pretty clear that Rafay was a dead man walking. What's worse is that MK claims he had information that could prove Rafay's innocence, because clearly Rafay wasn't going to clean up his own mess, yet he first tries to push Rafay off the cliff first by 'calling him out' as he says. Town isn't really having that, yet come to the same conclusion. Only the next day he kind of makes an effort to defend Rafay, but nothing really concrete expect 'I think Rafay is town'. The actions you took during day don't even come close to reflecting on the actions you claimed to have taken during the night. And even the 'role claim' that you're throwing out there is just tiptoeing around things. Like if you played it badly, you can own up to that shit. You said you did action x during night y. That's fine as long as it's concrete, but what you're giving us right now is absolutely worthless which makes your claim unbelievable at best, scummy at worst. No one in their right mind would use the actions that you claimed you have the way you claim. Things are adding up too much as no new information has been provided, it's too convenient. 

Decepticons are all lazy criminals who can't drive. Nuke'em all, I say!

(Seriously tho, I don't even know your race Rafay nor do I care)

You & MK both need to understand you're just messing up. Lies/contradiction/backpedalling without clear reasons/vagueness in your defenses seem extremely suspicious. There is still suspicion towards AbT too for him saying a cupid targetted him then saying it just said he was made a lover. That's just the reality of the game and it's not gonna change. If you want to be suspected less you need to adjust your play and not make those mistakes. You can't expect everyone to just ignore it and give a permanent pass on you. What if you really are scum? Some games you surely will be.

 

when is the deadline?

 

and im pretty sure atliis is in line to get mod killed.  

Good, we can get rid of a scum without much effort.

 

@atliis care to add anything at all to this conversation? Or just a simple "I agree", submit a vote, and crawl back into hiding?

As far as MK goes,

He is always floppy. It's one of the things with his play-style that has always confused me. I've lynched him several games and he turns out town (even when it seems so obvious he is scum). I'm not 100% sold on him being scum, but I'm not 100% he is town either. My question is why is KitKat so defensive of MK? Do you know something we don't? Care to explain?

Only scum know who is or isn't scum. Defending MK on potentially another lynch of a townie would score points, wouldn't it?

 

Rafay (9): Darkfox, Brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Colonel Medved, Atliis, KevinH, Mandarijn, Lachiton, Rhizoctonia
 

Funny, your name is missing from this mislynch too. Actually, your name is missing from any wagons actually. I mean, if I was a scum player trying to avoid being on any town wagon, you'd be nailing that on the head.

Unvote: Atliis

Vote: KitKat

Nothing to do with your playstyle, it's because your race

 

 

I don't have time to post right now, so I'll be quick.

 

- MK's story is unbelievable to me. I'm not going to vote right now only because there are more than enough people on his wagon and it wouldn't be wise to risk ending the day prematurely.

- I'm very suspicious about Kitkat and Col. medved, who apparently don't have any issues with the MK's story.

Timeline for this game.

 

Day 4 - Lynch me.

Night 4 - i beg the mafia to please strongman kill Brewers.

Day 5 - lynch KitKat

Day 6 - Lynch Colonel Medved

Day 7 - Lose the game

 

Well, if mafia is good from now on, they will kill every night.

 

I see a comfortable win for scum by day 6.

 

In fact, i wish that scum wins. Even if i don't get the win, i am ready to sacrifice my win for scum to win this time.

I will pray that scum wins this game.

 

Only then will town know how much shitty they truly are.

 

If scum wins, free 9M or 100 tech to scum.

Don't let me down.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Thursday, May 24th.
 
My list:
 
"Leaning scum / worthy of a lynch":

  • Lord MK - Ragequit or scum? 
  • Atliis - Only 10 posts the entire game
  • Jazzy95 - Only 12 posts the entire game
  • Darkfox - voted early for Rafay
  • Ali bin Turban - cupid/lover confusion  

"The Middle"

  • Canik v.2 (Samus) 
  • Colonel Medved
  • Lachiton
  • Mandarijn
  • Rhizoctonia
  • SeaBeeGipson
  • Yehom

"Leaning town"

  • Brewersalliance - Correctly called out Rafay on false claim

Timeline for this game.

 

Day 4 - Lynch me.

Night 4 - i beg the mafia to please strongman kill Brewers.

Day 5 - lynch KitKat

Day 6 - Lynch Colonel Medved

Day 7 - Lose the game

 

Well, if mafia is good from now on, they will kill every night.

 

I see a comfortable win for scum by day 6.

 

In fact, i wish that scum wins. Even if i don't get the win, i am ready to sacrifice my win for scum to win this time.

I will pray that scum wins this game.

 

Only then will town know how much shitty they truly are.

 

If scum wins, free 9M or 100 tech to scum.

Don't let me down.

so you are now saying you want the scum to win?  but if i am so far off with everything I am saying, then why would you want the mafia to kill me?  Jesus christ you are making no sense this game.  even if you are town, its almost better off for you to be killed because ever since MULTIPLE people have pointed out all of your inconsistencies and erratic play, you have become nothing but toxic and have offered nothing to the town other than I hope the scum wins, kill me now blah blah blah

 

so honestly, if you are town, id still be okay with the lynch being you. 

Timeline for this game.

 

Day 4 - Lynch me.

Night 4 - i beg the mafia to please strongman kill Brewers.

Day 5 - lynch KitKat

Day 6 - Lynch Colonel Medved

Day 7 - Lose the game

 

Well, if mafia is good from now on, they will kill every night.

 

I see a comfortable win for scum by day 6.

 

In fact, i wish that scum wins. Even if i don't get the win, i am ready to sacrifice my win for scum to win this time.

I will pray that scum wins this game.

 

Only then will town know how much shitty they truly are.

 

If scum wins, free 9M or 100 tech to scum.

Don't let me down.

Djeez, what are you doing? 

 

You're stating contradictory things and we can't point them out to you? Why are you even playing this game then, because that's the whole point of Mafia...

Even in this post, you're saying that Mafia should kill brewers, but yet you think he's scum and have your vote on him.  :angry:

Timeline for this game.

 

Day 4 - Lynch me.

Night 4 - i beg the mafia to please strongman kill Brewers.

Day 5 - lynch KitKat

Day 6 - Lynch Colonel Medved

Day 7 - Lose the game

 

Well, if mafia is good from now on, they will kill every night.

 

I see a comfortable win for scum by day 6.

 

In fact, i wish that scum wins. Even if i don't get the win, i am ready to sacrifice my win for scum to win this time.

I will pray that scum wins this game.

 

Only then will town know how much shitty they truly are.

 

If scum wins, free 9M or 100 tech to scum.

Don't let me down.

Maybe check for a replacement than a ragequit like this. Come on, not everyone is out for your neck and offering a defense other than this ragequit would definitely help your case more. At this point, you're just throwing the game.

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@TW we use the "hammering" term quite liberally here (including the person who pushed a wagon into half majority), while, if I'm not mistaken, on the Mafia Wiki it strictly means majority vote which ends the day. My question is, what's your interpretation of SuperSaint power: would it trigger on half majority lynch or would it need a majority lynch (that immediately ends the day)?

RE: Super Saint

 

If a Super Saint effect were to come into play I will extend the interpretation of the role to be that the last person to vote for a possible Super Saint (above the half majority but below the full majority) will be killed if a Super Saint does not reach a full majority lynch.

 

Last point you are RCing as JOAT with 1-shot tracker, cop and bulletproof combo. TW did say he took the roles from greater idea list and I cant see your role matching. Well as a mod he can definitely change them as he sees fit but my role matches exactly as listed there.

I wanted to address this really quickly as well. I never said that I took all of the roles from the Greater Idea Mafia game. We were talking about a cupid role specifically earlier when it was mentioned that the role was taken from the Greater Idea game.

 

 

Vote Count

 

Lord MK (6): Brewersalliance, Darkfox, Canik v.2, Rhizoctonia, KevinH, Atliis

Brewersalliance (1): Lord MK

Kitkat16 (1): SeaBeeGipson

Ali bin Turban (0):

Atliis (0): 

Canik v.2 (Samus) (0):

Colonel Medved (0):

Darkfox (0):

Jazzy95 (0):

KevinH (0):

Lachiton (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Yehom (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: Ali bin Turban, Colonel Medved, Jazzy95, Kitkat16, Lachiton, Mandarijn, Rafay, Yehom

 

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is 1:00pm CST on Thursday, May 24th.

 

Currently in danger of mod-kill: Atliis (1 post on day 4)

 

 

fucked up my night action
 

 

Care to explain more?

 

TW did not get my request. There is  no record of my request. I asked him a few days ago about it. He said he never received it.

 

So, you say you have a role that can do a night action, on the same day that scum missed a kill? I know scum usually put their talks into a separate website and I believe this is your first game, but you usually do not want to hint that you have any night actions unless you are ready to claim what role you have and what actions you've done. It looks suspicious you mention you have a role with a night action that didn't go through, on the same night a kill did not go through.

If I were scum I would not tell you I have a night action. I am simply saying that I asked TW for clarification several days ago. I only posted just now because brewer told me I needed to or I would be mod killed. TW first replied to my last message after that post. I just want to make sure I am not mod killed. That would hurt the town.

 

 

 

 

 

fucked up my night action

 

Care to explain more?

TW did not get my request. There is no record of my request. I asked him a few days ago about it. He said he never received it.

So, you say you have a role that can do a night action, on the same day that scum missed a kill? I know scum usually put their talks into a separate website and I believe this is your first game, but you usually do not want to hint that you have any night actions unless you are ready to claim what role you have and what actions you've done. It looks suspicious you mention you have a role with a night action that didn't go through, on the same night a kill did not go through.

He already claimed to have a role yesterday

 

 

Timeline for this game.

 

Day 4 - Lynch me.

Night 4 - i beg the mafia to please strongman kill Brewers.

Day 5 - lynch KitKat

Day 6 - Lynch Colonel Medved

Day 7 - Lose the game

 

Well, if mafia is good from now on, they will kill every night.

 

I see a comfortable win for scum by day 6.

 

In fact, i wish that scum wins. Even if i don't get the win, i am ready to sacrifice my win for scum to win this time.

I will pray that scum wins this game.

 

Only then will town know how much shitty they truly are.

 

If scum wins, free 9M or 100 tech to scum.

Don't let me down.

Djeez, what are you doing?

 

You're stating contradictory things and we can't point them out to you? Why are you even playing this game then, because that's the whole point of Mafia...

Even in this post, you're saying that Mafia should kill brewers, but yet you think he's scum and have your vote on him. :angry:

Because pointing out blantant contradictions is not how you should play this game obviously.

 

Then goes about calling town shitty when he supposidely wasted his 2 night actions on someone for which he didn't speak up to stop a mislynch of when he supposidely knew was town. But yes, the rest of the town is shitty

If I were scum I would not tell you I have a night action. I am simply saying that I asked TW for clarification several days ago. I only posted just now because brewer told me I needed to or I would be mod killed. TW first replied to my last message after that post. I just want to make sure I am not mod killed. That would hurt the town.

Can you give us more info from previous nights that might help us? If you don’t have anything interesting, it might be better to not RC depending on your role. But it already was obvious and now even more that you have a PR...

I think this also applies for brewers. :P

 

Because some more info would be helpfull for the town I think as I’m assuming one of you will die next night (seeing the missed kill last night, which to me means one of you was most likely targetted already).

 

If I were scum I would not tell you I have a night action. I am simply saying that I asked TW for clarification several days ago. I only posted just now because brewer told me I needed to or I would be mod killed. TW first replied to my last message after that post. I just want to make sure I am not mod killed. That would hurt the town.

Can you give us more info from previous nights that might help us? If you don’t have anything interesting, it might be better to not RC depending on your role. But it already was obvious and now even more that you have a PR...

I think this also applies for brewers. :P

 

Because some more info would be helpfull for the town I think as I’m assuming one of you will die next night (seeing the missed kill last night, which to me means one of you was most likely targetted already).

 

unfortunately, I do not have any interesting or vital information to share.  the rafay lying about his role thing is pretty much all of the goodies I have 

Timeline for this game.

 

Day 4 - Lynch me.

Night 4 - i beg the mafia to please strongman kill Brewers.

Day 5 - lynch KitKat

Day 6 - Lynch Colonel Medved

Day 7 - Lose the game

 

Well, if mafia is good from now on, they will kill every night.

 

I see a comfortable win for scum by day 6.

 

In fact, i wish that scum wins. Even if i don't get the win, i am ready to sacrifice my win for scum to win this time.

I will pray that scum wins this game.

 

Only then will town know how much shitty they truly are.

 

If scum wins, free 9M or 100 tech to scum.

Don't let me down.

 

Yeah, you're just fucking with us, aren't you? No way one can contradict himself so many times . It looks like as if you're enjoying being lynched today. Anyways I think you're definitely jester if you're town or a super saint scum. 

 

If you're town you should do a much better job in defending yourself. You can start by full claim, including your character name.

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