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[Ferastical]

How is it digging? That’s a recent game fresh in memory.

 

 

 

That's not changing a strategy, that's having two entirely different philosophies and directly contradicting oneself

What, so you don't think people can change?

Going digging in other game threads to fill gaps in your scum reads might just be the most sus thing I've seen yet, or is it something that is done often? Either way, can't stand it.

It's not digging.
It was a recent game.
Besides, some people here will not believe anything without proof.
And thus the accused will dismiss it without proof.

 

 

I don't know about you, but going into another game thread to find a one-sentence post from like 2 months back, and specifically linking to it definitely fits my definition of digging. And yes, you may say it's a "recent game" and such, but I can barely remember what I had for lunch 2 days ago, how's Brewers supposed to remember what a person posted in a forum mafia game 2 months back? lol

And hey, if he somehow did, props to him. Good memory.

 

But as it so happens that you're all so cool about it, how about this...

 

Brewers, remember this post? https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/64644-tw-12-agents-of-shield-mafia-hydra-wins/?p=1006043

 

If you're, and I quote, always trying to lynch on D1... then congratulations, you're 100% contradicting yourself here. 

[Tony Maurice]

Vote ferastical.

[ghaws]

 

 

with that being said... and I cannot believe I am doing this... 

 

Vote No Lynch

i am quoting this just so ferastical can read this brewers himself admitted at the beginning of this very game  that he never does a day 1 no lynch so bringing a quote does not really put anything new on the table everyone knows brewers hates no lynch he makes sure in his own games that no lynch is not even an option lol

 

i can see that he is contradicting his entire mafia playing style but he gave some reasoning for it as well and i do not see any reason we should hold this as any sort of evidence tbh

 

i would be more than welcome if anyone thinks otherwise to discuss it out because from the beginning of the game i am seeing a wagon of MK brewers just agreeing to each other anyways so i would like to see how that pans out if they are the detective duo or scums bringing numbers to the table

i also remember TW just did not find something as good as detective duo for 3 people lol so did not mention him

[Torres951]

VIBE CHECK

 

Vote: ghaws

[brewersalliance]

How is it digging? That’s a recent game fresh in memory.

That's not changing a strategy, that's having two entirely different philosophies and directly contradicting oneself

What, so you don't think people can change?

Going digging in other game threads to fill gaps in your scum reads might just be the most sus thing I've seen yet, or is it something that is done often? Either way, can't stand it.

It's not digging.
It was a recent game.
Besides, some people here will not believe anything without proof.
And thus the accused will dismiss it without proof.

I don't know about you, but going into another game thread to find a one-sentence post from like 2 months back, and specifically linking to it definitely fits my definition of digging. And yes, you may say it's a "recent game" and such, but I can barely remember what I had for lunch 2 days ago, how's Brewers supposed to remember what a person posted in a forum mafia game 2 months back? lol
And hey, if he somehow did, props to him. Good memory.

But as it so happens that you're all so cool about it, how about this...

Brewers, remember this post? https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/64644-tw-12-agents-of-shield-mafia-hydra-wins/?p=1006043

If you're, and I quote, always trying to lynch on D1... then congratulations, you're 100% contradicting yourself here.

Lol wait so shame on me for remembering players past actions from other games? And considering I said I never vote no Lynch in this game and straight up pointed out how I don't ever do this, and then proceeded to give an explaintion several times for why the change of heart for this game, you are grasping at straws here. If I just changed my entire philosophy with no reasoning at all and then after I was called out for it started to make excuses **cough cough what lyner did cough cough** that would be one thing. But that's not even remotely what happened. And u know it
So congratulations, im 0% contradicting myself

Its a Theory for me after seeing the death last night honestly TW.

Are u claiming you're a JOAT and saw the death of LWW at night?

[Finster Baby]

I don’t get why people think Brewers is worthy of a lynch right now. Can those voting for him please explain your reasoning? I’m not seeing it currently.

I'm with TW here.  I can't see a reason currently why Brewers is a target.

[Ferastical]

Lol wait so shame on me for remembering players past actions from other games?

 

 

Hmm, I guess I do find it interesting that you went out of your way to search up an already finished game thread for what Lyner said, but either didn't remember or didn't bother to check this very thread... when all you needed was just sitting right there: 

 

Sir 11 data points are not stastistically significant   Also we are not that expert   But I also advocate for no lynch

 

 

Also, all you ever said about why you didn't want to lynch someone is because out of the 11 Mafia Championships games, where they lynched D1 every time, they won only 2 times. That's literally it, you doubling down on statistics! What if we continued that line of thought, eh? Let's say we don't lynch D2 also, because in every Maf Championships game they did, but they still only ended up winning 2 games?   

 

I think I just saw a cloud in the shape of a wiener and I need to go outside immediately to check it out

 

Unvote -> Brewersalliance

 

 

 

VIBE CHECK   Vote: ghaws

 

*sigh* Why?

[ghaws]

VIBE CHECK

 

Vote: ghaws

meh i am not the scum so if u want to "vibe check" go ahead

[brewersalliance]

Lol wait so shame on me for remembering players past actions from other games?

Hmm, I guess I do find it interesting that you went out of your way to search up an already finished game thread for what Lyner said, but either didn't remember or didn't bother to check this very thread... when all you needed was just sitting right there:

Sir 11 data points are not stastistically significant Also we are not that expert But I also advocate for no lynch

Also, all you ever said about why you didn't want to lynch someone is because out of the 11 Mafia Championships games, where they lynched D1 every time, they won only 2 times. That's literally it, you doubling down on statistics! What if we continued that line of thought, eh? Let's say we don't lynch D2 also, because in every Maf Championships game they did, but they still only ended up winning 2 games?

I think I just saw a cloud in the shape of a wiener and I need to go outside immediately to check it out

Unvote -> Brewersalliance

VIBE CHECK Vote: ghaws

*sigh* Why?

What are you talking about? You are legit making no sense. I never voted lyner over lynch or no Lynch. I voted him for saying voting incatives=scum while remembering he legit said in like one game ago that he defaults to voting inactives lol

And u are unvoting me just to vote me? Lol dude you are making no sense with anything you're saying
Oh wait never mind I thought u voted me haha that was just an unvote

Stop using that yellow text 😂 it hurts old people's eyes 😂

[Ferastical]

I never voted lyner over lynch or no Lynch. I voted him for saying voting incatives=scum while remembering he legit said in like one game ago that he defaults to voting inactives lol

 

Oh yeah... damn, I thought I had a good argument there, scrap that then lmao

 

Stop using that yellow text it hurts old people's eyes

 

 

Over my dead body 

[ghaws]

 

I never voted lyner over lynch or no Lynch. I voted him for saying voting incatives=scum while remembering he legit said in like one game ago that he defaults to voting inactives lol

 

Oh yeah... damn, I thought I had a good argument there, scrap that then lmao

 

 

 

Stop using that yellow text it hurts old people's eyes

 

 

Over my dead body 

 

doesn't it take extra effort to select all and then change the color just scrap the idea lol

[Ferastical]

doesn't it take extra effort to select all and then change the color just scrap the idea lol

 

yeah, but where's the fun in boring-ass gray? also CTRL + A and selecting the color literally takes like two seconds, plus I've been doing this for more than 2 years, so I don't think I mind the effort   

 

I tried writing in cyan before orange, but obviously this just starts to hurt your eyes after a while

[brewersalliance]

doesn't it take extra effort to select all and then change the color just scrap the idea lol

yeah, but where's the fun in boring-ass gray? also CTRL + A and selecting the color literally takes like two seconds, plus I've been doing this for more than 2 years, so I don't think I mind the effort

I tried writing in cyan before orange, but obviously this just starts to hurt your eyes after a while

It's even worse on mobile because it's the bright text on the white background

[Ali bin Turban]

 

 

Well, AbT is getting good at the lying game, perhaps even able to stand up to Limey Lyner himself, i give you that.

Care to explain what are those lies? I'm very interested to hear, if you have something substantial to say or are you just cynicaly trying to ride on the wave of brewers frustration?

ABT jumped on the wagon. Cause he has a bone to pick with you.

And this one to. I'd be glad to learn what is that bone about.

Well, one is no lynch is not always a bad strategy as you suggested.
Two, is fabrication, not necessarily in this game.
So I'm not going to comment further on that, but you know exactly what I'm referring to.


And about the issue you have with brewers, how should i know?
It just seems to a third party observer that you are genuinely upset with brewers.

 

I've been claiming that D1 no lynch is bad strategy in this scenario. This is a fact and numbers show that.  

But feel free to show me the message where I say no lynch is always a bad strategy. There must be some, since you wouln't lie to us, would you?

 

And since you're so skilled in finding lies, how about those ones?

 

And this game starts with 15. Town loses more with odd number of starting players. No Lynching and then the NK would make this game start at even and thus give a better chance of winning.

 

This is not true. It's actually the other way around. No lynch is more viable with even number of starting players.

By your own standards this is a lie. 

 

Like if you tracked say, me visiting lww. That might mean 2 things, 1) I'm scum. 2) the other joat also tracking/ motion detection. To the Joat who tracked me, there's a 50% chance that one of the 2 was the one which happened.

 

This is also not true. True chances were at that moment around 7% for finding JOAT and 93% for scum.

Again, by your own standards this is a lie. 

 

So how is it? Are you just bad with numbers, or are you constantly ltrying to decive town? 

[Lyner]

Interesting to see ghaws and FB panicking and defending brewers

[Lyner]

Since brewers started it I'll also do this kind of fun way to accuse people. Proofs:

 

Ghaws:

1. Ghaws defending brewers the instant I voted for brewers: "I will no go as far as vote brewers " [link]

2. Indirect defend from ghaws, voting is literally the only way to force information out of people [link]

3. Third time [link]

 

FB:

1. Two post away after Ghaws's first post: "Voting for brewers right now is just spiteful.  If he's a JOAT you'll be pissed and have a huge target on your back." [link]

2. Another one from FB [link]

3. Third time [link]

 

One or twice is nice, the third time is starting to get suspicious.

[Finster Baby]

So its now a crime to defend someone from what could be an incorrect lynch when we have absolutely no information to go by?

 

I thought we were playing to win the game.

[Wolfpacks]

Vote FB because its been a while

[ghaws]

Since brewers started it I'll also do this kind of fun way to accuse people. Proofs:

 

Ghaws:

1. Ghaws defending brewers the instant I voted for brewers: "I will no go as far as vote brewers " [link]

2. Indirect defend from ghaws, voting is literally the only way to force information out of people [link]

3. Third time [link]

 

FB:

1. Two post away after Ghaws's first post: "Voting for brewers right now is just spiteful.  If he's a JOAT you'll be pissed and have a huge target on your back." [link]

2. Another one from FB [link]

3. Third time [link]

 

One or twice is nice, the third time is starting to get suspicious.

i would say have fun voting me lol

if u think kevin who is an experienced mod will give me a role so important in this game where things are complicated u r clearly mistaken

and also u say i am defending him when clearly i said it is fishy the way warrior mk and him are playing this game all the way advocating for a no lynch but i still give them the benefit of the doubt because it kinda makes sense

 

 

 

with that being said... and I cannot believe I am doing this... 

 

Vote No Lynch

 

 

i would be more than welcome if anyone thinks otherwise to discuss it out because from the beginning of the game i am seeing a wagon of MK brewers just agreeing to each other anyways so i would like to see how that pans out if they are the detective duo or scums bringing numbers to the table

i also remember TW just did not find something as good as detective duo for 3 people lol so did not mention him

 

i said it right here mister detective lyner did u somehow miss this?

[ghaws]

and i did not vote for him after u voted was because i did not see any credibility in your reasoning of voting him if there was any reason of voting him at all tbh

 

 

 

Less talking, more voting. Help cover for JoATs.

 

 

Sure if you want to play random name guesser instead of mafia that is a very viable strat 

The more we discuss the more we have information the more we can see through people. Even lies are information

 

how is this even a defense of brewers at all?

so u prefer we vote for people without any discussions and go straight up lynching people left and right because we can vote so that we keep changing our votes each time a new information is revealed?

and if you say voting is the only way to get information how are u making me talk rn?

did u vote for me ?

no right?

u just said it was suspicious and i said everything which i felt was wrong about your suspicion we can also get information if we threaten people that we have suspicion on them ig