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[VL-01] Halo: The Battle Of Reach Mafia: Mafia-SK TIE


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Not sure about that. 

 

Its unlikely they would target any of the 4 on the remaining list. The Warrior, captainjf, Torres951, Ferastical, As they are 1, on list and 2, they know were are investigating and Jailkeeping within the list. They have a list of people who are all big threats now as they are Confirmed. LWW, Brewers, Wolfpacks, Kevin, Ali. Are all more interesting targets, even I am more interesting of a target. 

 

We don't need to know who Wolfpacks is investigating. (He can investigate me even if he wanted to but it be a waste in my opinion.) It won't matter if he's NK'd, one could argue if he reveals and he's targeted, he might of been chosen first because of who he choose. However, if we know beforehand who LWW blocks, and we believe there is only 1 scum yet. (Nobody talked about this at all if there is 1 or 2 more scum) we know its less likely whoever he jailkeeped is scum as there was a kill. 

 

Best we can do shorten the list somehow and hopefully (If only one scum) finish it this day phase or the next (If there is 2). Unless there is 2 and we lynch one today there a decent chance to end it the next day phase. So if Captain is lynched today (Most likely) we only have Torres, Ferastical, and The Warrior left. We can hopefully confirm or deny 1 of the 3 during the night and look at the remaining two. 


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I just want to make sure I have this correct:

 

I am the most suspicious because I did not put the hammer vote on MK

I am the most suspicious because I did not vote for Rayfay. Rayfay who was being voted on because only because was inactive on D2 and happened to turn out scum.

I am the most suspicious because I did not voice strong opinions for anyone on D3 (I did, but sadly turned out to be town)

I am the most suspicious because I've tried to lay low on D4 (I have not, I've put my case in for Ferastical. I have tried to help by posting facts otherwise)

 

I've tried making posts on D4, but hardly anyone responds to me. Perhaps that is because they don't offer anything to the discussion in your eyes? I don't know. I just know I've attempted to do my part to contribute to the Town.


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Mafia is a tough game man, don't take it personally. You've definitely tried shifting your play style to adapt to the town, which is either exactly what a new townie player should be doing, or a really smart newbie mafia move, but either way is good play ;) Just stick it out and focus on trying to play your best game, and you'll get the hang of how to have more sway on people's reads of you.

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Best we can do shorten the list somehow and hopefully (If only one scum) finish it this day phase or the next (If there is 2). Unless there is 2 and we lynch one today there a decent chance to end it the next day phase. So if Captain is lynched today (Most likely) we only have Torres, Ferastical, and The Warrior left. We can hopefully confirm or deny 1 of the 3 during the night and look at the remaining two.


Dangit, this really feels like a scum tell to me. Like Robert knows captain is town, so if he gets lynched we'll still have 3 more people to sift through tomorrow. We can't lynch Robert today because it'll invalidate me and be a death sentence for WP, but this specific quote makes me a lot more suspicious of Robert. I really hope I'm wrong though.

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How is it a scum tell? 


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If we lynch scum today then telegraphing is best way to go ( since there'll be just one left probably). This way we'll avoid risk of both LWW and WP targeting same person.

However if we lynch town then indeed it's a bad play, since scum will just go after WP with non jailed player - in the end we get no info.
So if it turns out we lynch town today, WP and LWW should target whomever they want.

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How is it a scum tell?


Scum obviously know who is town, whereas town can only guess who they think is or isn't. The way your post read was that captain being lynched would still leave us with 2 mafia to find out of the three players most of us have agreed are most suspicious, indicating that you know captain is town. Maybe I just misread it but it felt like a classic post by scum trying to make it seem like they don't know who is who with all of the "maybe there's only one scum left" comments and then accidentally phrasing a potential lynch as an inevitable mislynch. Hence scum tell.

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That isn't at all what I said.

I do not know if captain is town. I do not know how many scum is left or even in the game. I put out possible scenarios. I hope only 1 scum is left. I see only 4 possible people it can be. If there is 2, we techeclly have 50% shot of lynching scum randomly on this list. If only 1, 25%. Ali seems convinced there is still 2, so maybe there is. Idk.

The only reason I really don't want captain to be lynched is he's a new player. Besides that, he's mainly just on the list. If he lynched he's lynched.

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I just want Captain dead because he doesn't know his geography.


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Honestly for the 4 people they all should of been voting by now.

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I just want Captain dead because he doesn't know his geography.


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Harsh on TW just because he's had OOC stuff going on :huh:

Yeah we need to coalesce around someone for a lynch today since deadline is later tonight. I think captain is already at the deadline count but do we all really think he's the best choice?

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Harsh on TW just because he's had OOC stuff going on
 

 

articles dont count so the T from The is exempt 

 

for me its captian or robert.  



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For what it's worth, my role also had the vote as a weapon verbage.

 

External distractions happen, but scum roles should have been assigned randomly; a legitimate excuse for low activity is not a legitimate reason to not be scum.



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True. Roles are supposed to be random.

Also. Why do you think it either captain or me?

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For me is captain or TW (activity is not scum or not indicator)
Robert can wait since LWWs power depends on him.
Ferastical I've more trust in than the other three

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Guys, I have an important IT competition I need to attend so I'll be outta town for the rest of today + tomorrow.

 

I'm still sticking to my vote, if you're wondering. 

 

Whatever happens, I trust you lot to make the right decision in your minds, even if it means voting me. Hope we catch the bad guys  B)


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I just want Captain dead because he doesn't know his geography.

 

Is this your only actual reason?

 

Honestly for the 4 people they all should of been voting by now.

 

I like considering as much information as possible before voting, hence why I typically wait until shortly before deadline to vote.

 

I'm still looking at Captain or Ferastical right now due to what I mentioned earlier. I think Robert is in play as potentially being scum due to the possibility of Enabler and Role Enabled being of opposite alignments but I'm not convinced at this point that is the case. The only two ways leaving Robert alive really hurts us today at all is if he is the last scum or if LWW is actually scum and can roleblock Wolfpacks or something. Otherwise we can revisit that on a later day if necessary.

 

@LWW - I think you are the only other person who hasn't voted yet. What is your thought process at this point?


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Velocity, with deadline in 2 hours, can we get an updated vote count please?


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@Wolfpacks - You said that you still didn't trust Ferastical's role claim. Is that the only cause of your vote or was there something else that I missed?


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