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[Falzis]

Alright I believe we're coming into a consensus? Any dissenting opinions or healthy debates? There might be things Aquinas or people who support his idea haven't seen?

VOTE COUNT
KevinH (1): Firkked

No Lynch (1): Sir Jesus

Not Voting (11): Narsis, Junkahoolik, Electric Mango, KevinH, crazyemolad, Falzis, Kaziocore, Aquinas, Martino, CanucksDynasty, angel of doom

Edited by molestargazer, 06 November 2009 - 03:38 PM.

[junkahoolik]

i'm good for a list though first i'd like some conversation first before we make it. so let's start making it friday. then we can sit back and have enough time to discuss it too.

[Kaziocore]

So who's gonna make the order?

[KevinH]

Alright I believe we're coming into a consensus?

I support the will of the people.

I like the stock market idea for determining order.

[Sir Jesus]

PRO-LIST

I feel like we have a great opportunity to reduce the amount of variables in play during this game. We should methodically root out the mafia, it won't be hard if we keep the game settings (list) rigidified.

[Electric Mango]

I'll do a vote count of the current List vs No List/Hybrid Plan later tonight or tomorrow.

[Electric Mango]

Pro List (3)
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Electric Mango
KevinH
Sir Jesus


Anti List (1)
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Narsis


Pro Hybrid (5)
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Aquinas
Falzis
Angel of Doom
Kaziocore
Firkked

Not Voting (4)
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Junkahoolic
crazymolad
Martino
CanucksDynasty


Once we reach a clear consensus of 7 we can move forward.

[Narsis]

meh might as well go:

PRO HYBRID.

it will achieve more or less the same thing as no list.

[junkahoolik]

put me on the pro-hybrid voters...

[Martino]

While I like the hybrid better than no list, I would still prefer the list to minimize the chance of any townie errors. So my vote goes:
Pro List

Anyway, the hybrid idea just got the majority, so I suppose we'll have to use that.

[Electric Mango]

Pro List (4)
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Electric Mango
KevinH
Sir Jesus
Martino

Anti List (0)
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Pro Hybrid (7)
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Aquinas
Falzis
Angel of Doom
Kaziocore
Firkked
Narsis
Junkahoolic

Not Voting (2)
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crazymolad
CanucksDynasty


Ok, we have our winner, Pro Hybrid.

The Hybrid Plan:

The plan is that we would follow the sign up list in order and in that order choose our room order. The first four people would be forced to pick the four separate rooms. Then the fifth person would pick a room to double up in and the next three would follow suit and not until the ninth person would pick to be the third person in the room.

1. Narsis
2. Junkahoolik
3. Electric Mango
4. KevinH
5. Firkked
6. Sir Jesus
7. crazyemolad
8. angel of doom
9. Falzis
10. Kaziocore
11. Aquinas
12. CanucksDynasty
13. Martino

[Electric Mango]

3. After a player has been lynched, the game thread will remain open for 48 hours. During this time, all players must post which location they are going to move to for the night, using the MOVE: Area 4 or MOVE: Economy Seating format. This is posted in-thread.

The Hybrid Plan:

The plan is that we would follow the sign up list in order and in that order choose our room order. The first four people would be forced to pick the four separate rooms. Then the fifth person would pick a room to double up in and the next three would follow suit and not until the ninth person would pick to be the third person in the room.

We will only have 48 hrs to have everyone pick in order. If just one person stalls it will stall everyone else behind that person, causing major fubar.

I propose we do our room selection now, that way when the day ends we can all post to go to our room w/out having to wait for everyone else to pick 1st.

The only exception would be that Martino would not vote, he would fill in the vacancy left by the one we lynched.

What does everyone else think?

[Kaziocore]

That sounds a great idea. Now all is left is to have a poll for a lynch or a no-lynch.

[Martino]

Yes, we need to start picking rooms now. The 48 hours is never going to be enough if we have to do it in order.

About the no lynch vs lynch. I'm strongly in favor of lynching. First of all, we gain absolutely no information from voting no lynch. Secondly, we greatly increase the chance of a nightkill because the scum will be much more tempted to kill if they are in a room with 4 than when they are in a room with 3. Finally, we have much worse odds of finding the scum if a nightkill happens (assuming that one scum will be in the room with 4 players).

[CanucksDynasty]

We will only have 48 hrs to have everyone pick in order. If just one person stalls it will stall everyone else behind that person, causing major fubar.

I propose we do our room selection now, that way when the day ends we can all post to go to our room w/out having to wait for everyone else to pick 1st.

The only exception would be that Martino would not vote, he would fill in the vacancy left by the one we lynched.

What does everyone else think?

That's an odd statement.
Are you saying that Martino will not be the one to be lynched on D1?

[CanucksDynasty]

Yes, we need to start picking rooms now. The 48 hours is never going to be enough if we have to do it in order.

About the no lynch vs lynch. I'm strongly in favor of lynching. First of all, we gain absolutely no information from voting no lynch. Secondly, we greatly increase the chance of a nightkill because the scum will be much more tempted to kill if they are in a room with 4 than when they are in a room with 3. Finally, we have much worse odds of finding the scum if a nightkill happens (assuming that one scum will be in the room with 4 players).

I'm OK with picking out room assingments prior to the end of the day.

And Martino has eloquently spelled out what I've been saying all along...a lynch on D1 gives the town better odds of catching scum on N1.

[Aquinas]

I'm OK with picking out room assingments prior to the end of the day.

And Martino has eloquently spelled out what I've been saying all along...a lynch on D1 gives the town better odds of catching scum on N1.

I'm right with the both of you on this point.

[Aquinas]

Narsis is up first for picking a room. I suppose you can do that whenever you are comfortable kicking us off.

@Electric Mango: Seeing as you're becoming our non-mod resident list maker, would you mind being in charge of keeping record of who has picked what room and our order going? If not I'd do it although I can't guarantee any timeliness. Otherwise CannucksDynasty would also be a good record keeper in my opinion.

Do people think we should choose room assignments and then start thinking about who to lynch? If we've got that info before those debates really open we'd have even more info to work with. I'm sure we've all thought about possible scum targets but, if we silence the majority of that debate until after we get room assignments in we'd have a better shot at nabbing a scum on D1. Sounds smart to me. What do people think of this?

[Narsis]

so rooms 2, 3, 6 and 9?

guess i'll take...6.

also i have nothing against choosing rooms now before we go for the lynch. like Aquinas said it will add a bit more info to work with.

[Falzis]

Yeah that would be a good idea Aquinas. Since we're all choosing our room assignments before the 48 hour period, we should also do it before we lynch. So we can have a slightly better educated guess as to who could be scum based on their choices.

Also, the room numbers. Is it 1,4,7,8 and 2,3,6,9? I assume yes because that is the most strategic separation. What do we use for D1 and D2?