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[Kaziocore]

yeah i remembered there was another person but not who...

Actually I'm the first one who wanted to lynch crazyemolad for his inactiveness. Then EM said another reason to lynch him after mole said that crazyemolad has requested replacement.

VOTE COUNT
SinKon (4): CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Aquinas, Firkked
crazyemolad (4): Sir Jesus, Kaziocore, KevinH, SinKon

Not Voting (6): Narsis, Junkahoolik, crazyemolad, Falzis, Martino

Edited by molestargazer, 11 November 2009 - 05:19 PM.

[Kaziocore]

So townie points for EM for the convincing reason.

[junkahoolik]

yeah narsis, i don't like firkked and i don't like sincon. they both seem to be changing votes too easily for my liking.

[Sir Jesus]

yeah narsis, i don't like firkked and i don't like sincon. they both seem to be changing votes too easily for my liking.

I tend to agree.

Of course, my votes have been jumping around too. But I feel like the only opinion that SinKon (and not so much Firkked) can carry is that of what the town also carries.

[Firkked]

Interesting.

Either way it makes little difference, if crazyemolad goes then our inactive problem is gone. If SinKon goes then he may beable to replace crazyemolad.

Regardless I'll wait and see if this turns into a bigger bandwagon than it is now.

[Aquinas]

I'm leaving my vote on SinKon. I agree we'll need to get rid of Crazyemolad at the end of the day. If it comes to that, I'll switch my vote to him at that time.

RESERVED VOTE: Crazyemolad


Now you can't say I bandwagoned! At this time I would still rather lynch SinKon but inactivity will throw a huge wrench in our plans.

[Aquinas]

@MOD: I don't intend for that vote to force any technical obligations on the game, just hoping to have a little justification at the end of the day. We'll see how far it gets me...

[KevinH]

I am not unvoting but have some additional thoughts.

If we all get into the right rooms, I predict that the scum will not night-kill and thus we will have no firm suspects tomorrow.

On the other hand, if crazyemolad is randomly put into an adjoining and killed by the scum, we would at least have 6 suspects rather than 0.

Of course, the best outcome will be that crazyemolad is lynched as scum.

[SinKon]

After I reread some of my posts I notice something weird. CanucksDynasty agreed with me when I was for no lynch then gave me a formula to work with, then turned around and jumped on me. In fact, he was the first one who jumped me after Sir Jesus. Just like to point it out.

@SinKon - As mentioned in earlier posts...the reason for a lynch is to get voting patterns (useful in later rounds) and to get max 3 people into 4 rooms. Such that if a nightkill were to happen...we would have 50% chance to lynch mafia. If no nightkill happens...then we can avoid a lynch on D2 (provided we are still in the plane) to allow the cop to do another investigation. If we go with a no lynch...then if nightkill happens...we would have 3 suspects instead of 2. The town doesn't necessarily need to lynch on D2. Thus the status quo remain.

This could be a viable option.
Anyone else has thoughts on this?

The only problem I see is that in the previous plane crash game ... there was X days and we were rescued.
The mafia and town did not win.
Only the survivor won (whose win condition was to be alive at the end game).

No - Lynch Strategy for D1 and D2...

D1 - no lynch
N1 - nk in room with 4 people (3 suspects = 2 townies + mafia #1) = 1 dead townie
D2 - no lynch
N2 - nk in room with 3 people (2 suspects...I presume it'll be the same group) = 1 dead townie
D3 - mis-lynch = 1 dead townie
N3 - nk from mafia #1 = 1 dead townie
D4 - lynch mafia #1 = 1 dead mafia
N4 - nk from mafia #2 = 1 dead townie
D5 - ?

So at the beginning of D5 ... we get 5 dead townies and 1 dead mafia.

Same result as lynching on D1 but it takes one extra day (ie. D5 instead of D4).

Yeah...you're going to take a beating...



unvote
Vote: SinKon




While I don't agree with KevinH and SJ no lynch stance...somehow their recent posts makes me less suspicious of them.

I did have suspicions about AoD before he asked for a replacement.
He posted very little and didn't contribute much.
Now SinKon has replaced him.
And he comes out guns blazing on SJ, flops between no lynch and lynch, and back to SJ.
Not sure what to think about that.

Normally I'd give newbies a free pass on D1.
So they don't get turned off from the game.

But my gut is telling me different.
I get the feeling that SinKon may be trying a bit too hard.
Maybe it's his first game and all.
I don't know.

[Falzis]

I am not unvoting but have some additional thoughts.

If we all get into the right rooms, I predict that the scum will not night-kill and thus we will have no firm suspects tomorrow.

On the other hand, if crazyemolad is randomly put into an adjoining and killed by the scum, we would at least have 6 suspects rather than 0.

Of course, the best outcome will be that crazyemolad is lynched as scum.

That's WIFOM. Or if not, like reverse psychology. Wouldn't mafia love to kill someone and have a bigger pool of suspects?

FOS: KevinH

[junkahoolik]

That's WIFOM. Or if not, like reverse psychology. Wouldn't mafia love to kill someone and have a bigger pool of suspects?

FOS: KevinH

me no understands... huh??

[Falzis]

The way I understood Kevin's post was he was assuming or predicting that scum won't NK if we put our plan into place (3 persons per room in 4 separate rooms) because it would be to risky for scum because it would be a 50% chance of suspicion.

Assuming scum won't NK, we won't have a pool of suspects for D2. But if we let crazyemolad live and be randomly assigned, mafia will NK and we'd have a pool of suspects (6) on D2.

I said this is all guess work and WIFOM because scum can read this so we're second guessing them at the same time they're gonna second guess us.

Although I just though about it now, Kevin is only partially correct because if crazy gets randomly assigned, he will be assigned a room connected to two rooms (worst case scenario, coz he might be randomly assigned to one of the 4 rooms we talked about) and then the pool of suspects will only be six if crazyemolad is the one killed. If not, then the pool of suspects would be three, with one of them including crazyemolad.

[junkahoolik]

well, if they kill, they will have their reasons to kill. if they won't the same thing applies. so what we can do is speculate on their actions really and try to flush them out either way.

[Falzis]

Yes that's why I found it suspicious he would float the idea of letting crazyemolad live and be randomly assigned.

[Electric Mango]

I am not unvoting but have some additional thoughts.

If we all get into the right rooms, I predict that the scum will not night-kill and thus we will have no firm suspects tomorrow.

On the other hand, if crazyemolad is randomly put into an adjoining and killed by the scum, we would at least have 6 suspects rather than 0.

Of course, the best outcome will be that crazyemolad is lynched as scum.

Bad rational. If the scum choose not to night kill then we just let the cop do his investigations one night at a time. I believe the scum must night kill whether they like it or not.

[CanucksDynasty]

After I reread some of my posts I notice something weird. CanucksDynasty agreed with me when I was for no lynch then gave me a formula to work with, then turned around and jumped on me. In fact, he was the first one who jumped me after Sir Jesus. Just like to point it out.

I never said I agreed with you.
I said it was a viable option and provided a case in point.

My thought is that you are all over the map. I'm not too sure what to make of it. It kinda reminds me of when junkahoolic first played and posted all the time (turns up that he was a cop and got lynched on D1). Given AoD's seldom posts (I wouldn't necessarily call it inactivity cuz he had time to post but very little detail) and your postings...I doubt you are a pro-town power role. You may be a townie but I'm leaning towards you being mafia.

[SinKon]

Oh, yes you did and you gave me a formula to use too.
No point denying it now, the posts are back to back. I would've point it out sooner had I realized it. You used me like a dumbbell.

No - Lynch Strategy for D1 and D2...

D1 - no lynch
N1 - nk in room with 4 people (3 suspects = 2 townies + mafia #1) = 1 dead townie
D2 - no lynch
N2 - nk in room with 3 people (2 suspects...I presume it'll be the same group) = 1 dead townie
D3 - mis-lynch = 1 dead townie
N3 - nk from mafia #1 = 1 dead townie
D4 - lynch mafia #1 = 1 dead mafia
N4 - nk from mafia #2 = 1 dead townie
D5 - ?

So at the beginning of D5 ... we get 5 dead townies and 1 dead mafia.

Same result as lynching on D1 but it takes one extra day (ie. D5 instead of D4).

[CanucksDynasty]

Oh, yes you did and you gave me a formula to use too.
No point denying it now, the posts are back to back. I would've point it out sooner had I realized it. You used me like a dumbbell.

That was an example of a possible strategy.
I have always been in favour of a lynch.
I posted that possible scenario so that the townies can have all the information to make the their own judgement.

Did I say..."Hey Everyone!! We should use this strategy cuz it's the best!!"
Did I say..."I agree with you SinKon...we should go with a no lynch strategy!!"
No.

I find it questionable that you are trying to make it seem like I've manipulated you.
When in fact, all I did was post possibilities.

My vote will remain on you.

[CanucksDynasty]

Unofficial Vote Count
SinKon (4): , CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Aquinas, Firkked
crazyemolad (4): Kaziocore, KevinH, SinKon, Sir Jesus,

Not Voting (5): Narsis, Junkahoolik, crazyemolad, Falzis, Martino

The 4 of you "Not Voting" (not including crazyemolad) can cast your vote whenever you want.
As mentioned by someone...do not place that 7th vote.
Once it is decided who the lynch will be (most likely crazyemolad)...we should get on with the room placement.
As we only have 48hrs in order to do it.

@EM - got that random room stock exchange thingy yet?

[Aquinas]

@: Kaziocore, KevinH, SinKon, Sir Jesus,

Why are you currently voting for Crazyemolad? Is there more to it than that he is inactive? If so, do you feel that his inactivity is scummier than any other actions you've seen thus far? I realize the implications for the town if he is alive on lynch day but, we can worry about that later. If I missed your greater reasoning feel free to post a quote of yourself.