Another day, another plane. Captain "Anger-Management" Tilden (As he was known secretly by the crew) had always been proud of how he handled the flights on his plane. Always smooth, orderly, and comfortable for the passengers. And he intended to keep it that way, he reflected, carrying his bags through the airport terminal. Today's flight was to be a tedious one over the atlantic. But never mind.

 

Got to keep alert, he mused as his bags went through a scanner. Terrorists were everywhere these days. The takeoff was, as always, impeccable. The passengers seemed fairly happy, apart from that hungover one complaining about the lack of painkillers, and Tilden settled himself down for a smooth flight.

 

A few hours into the flight, the door to the cockpit was nudged open, breaking the silence. Tilden stiffened. It was probably that flight attendant. It was no secret amongst the crew that Tilden had a thing for her. But he didn't care. He wasn't about to ruin his chances by shouting again.

"Ah, Marie, could you-"

 

That was as far as he got. Looking at the reflection in the window, he saw a man in plain clothes. A passenger? He was striding up to Tilden with purpose. Tilden's eyes widened as he saw the flash of a blade. He opened his mouth to speak, but couldn't. A knife was swiftly drawn across his throat. He choked, swiftly passing into unconsciousness.

 

And yet no-one noticed the 2 dead pilots in the cockpit. Marie, the flight attendant, was about halfway through serving drinks. She glanced to the left, flashed a fake smile to the passenger before seeing he was unconscious.

She sighed, and rolled her eyes, recognising the passenger as the one with the hangover. She was about to turn away, when something caught her eye. Had he spilt coffee on himself? She sighed again, reaching for some napkins.

 

Wait. That wasn't coffee.

She screamed, noticing the blood spread out over the man's torso. The passenger's heads turned round to look at her. The man's pocket identified him as a Police officer.

 

It was happening again...

 

PLANE CRASH II

 

ALIVE (Italics indicates confirmation)

1. Narsis

3. Electric Mango

8. AKCPLUTO

9. Falzis

11. Aquinas

12. CanucksDynasty

13. Martino

 

DEAD

'Anger Management' Tilden, Pilot, slashed N0.

Nameless Copilot, slashed N0.

Nameless Hungover Cop, stabbed N0.

crazyemolad, TOWNIE, lynched D1.

Junkahoolik, TOWNIE, lynched D2.

KevinH, TOWNIE, stabbed N2.

Sir Jesus, TOWNIE, lynched D3.

Kaziocore, TOWNIE, killed N3.

Junkahoolik II, TOWNIE, killed N4.

Edited February 11, 201016 yr by molestargazer

Thanks for the vote of confidence Aquinas.

I hope that clears me of further suspicion.

 

Provided I survive the lynch...I am asking to be paired with you (Aquinas) at night.

I didn't reveal everything about the item I found.

 

 

At this point...my direction turns to Martino, EM and Falzis.

All whom placed SFOS on me.

As easy lynch target since I lost my cool.

All of them asking if this is correct...perhaps waiting for 2 townies to place their votes on me before swooping in to place 3 consecutive votes.

 

SFOS: Martino, EM, and Falzis.

 

I already voted for Martino.

As did Narsis.

Alright, I did not want to do this unless it was necessary. I think under the circumstances it is. We have two very strong opinions against someone I know to be a townie if my familiarity with the mechanics is correct. I am weary of both Martino and Electric Mango's SFOS and it seems like people are getting ready to vote. With the current situation lynching a townie makes us loose so, exposing what seems to be the closest thing to a cop role seems to me like it is a must do.

 

Spending the night before last all cramped up in my room I happened to role over onto a monocle. Experimenting with the device I realized that I could better track the whereabouts of specific individuals if I concentrated real hard on my surroundings. I am able to use the monocle to track and individual in my room as well as the rooms adjacent to mine. Last night, I decided to pay extra close attention to CanucksDynasty. Why him? I kept CanucksDynasty in my monocle because game after game I find myself trusting him which is a bad habit because he is a serious veteran player that could easily deceive me. I did not assume that he was scum at this point but, at the time I was lost for leads so following CanucksDynasty I was hoping to confirm my trust in someone. I believe I did just that. Unfortunately last night we lost a good man, Kaziocore. Fortunately, he was killed in a room right next to me. He spent his last moments in the cockpit as I stayed awake all night in a room on the left side of the plane just outside the cockpit. During the night, with my power to squint real hard into a circular piece of glass I did not see CanucksDynasty in the room. Another unfortunate fact, because I need to squint so hard looking for one person I was unable to see who actually killed Kaziocore.

 

I hope I am able to drop suspicion on CanucksDynasty with this information. I find him to be an excellent player, one whose posts I enjoy above most others. Also, throughout this flight I have found him to be a generally trustworthy passenger. I am disappointing he has taken up a liking to his caps lock button and lost his cool but, I can understand his frustration.

 

Martino and Electric Mango, I think its time you look elsewhere and I hope CanucksDynasty (a much better scum detector than myself) can lead our fellow innocent members of this flight to kill the scum who survived the crash with us. I will do what I can with my monocle tonight as I safely tucked it away during the crash. However, unless someone happened to find a first aid kit in the cargo hold I feel relatively vulnerable. I wish I had stumbled upon this piece sooner I find it to be quite exquisite.

 

I challenged Electric Mango recently to wake from his slumber recently and show us some of the skill he played with in previous encounters. He has done just that. Its a shame that it seems to me his efforts have focused on a friendly passenger. As of yet I am unsure whether to cite this as circumstance of CanucksDynasty's recent behavior which I admit is less than passive or because he was intentionally trying to mislead us. I am more critical of Martino. I believe Martino has been hiding more than Electric Mango recently. Martino creeps out from between the seats of our airliner now after we have crash landed hoping to have some kind of sway. I am concerned that he has only shown himself now to dominate the island and take terrorist supremacy of the land. I will review his voting record as well as that of Electric Mango and see what I can find. I implore CanucksDynasty to do the same as well as our other innocent survivors. Good luck gentlemen, lets not give in just yet.

 

 

 

((Also...SinKon was killed just recently in this other game. It feels strange to use this as evidence in out current game. MOD: Should I know better than to bring up events in the other game as evidence in this one?))

 

 

ok so you tracked CD, and he didnt move to kill Kazio.

 

just for clarification: on which night did you get the item?

Alright, I did not want to do this unless it was necessary. I think under the circumstances it is. We have two very strong opinions against someone I know to be a townie if my familiarity with the mechanics is correct. I am weary of both Martino and Electric Mango's SFOS and it seems like people are getting ready to vote. With the current situation lynching a townie makes us loose so, exposing what seems to be the closest thing to a cop role seems to me like it is a must do.

 

Spending the night before last all cramped up in my room I happened to role over onto a monocle. Experimenting with the device I realized that I could better track the whereabouts of specific individuals if I concentrated real hard on my surroundings. I am able to use the monocle to track and individual in my room as well as the rooms adjacent to mine. Last night, I decided to pay extra close attention to CanucksDynasty. Why him? I kept CanucksDynasty in my monocle because game after game I find myself trusting him which is a bad habit because he is a serious veteran player that could easily deceive me. I did not assume that he was scum at this point but, at the time I was lost for leads so following CanucksDynasty I was hoping to confirm my trust in someone. I believe I did just that. Unfortunately last night we lost a good man, Kaziocore. Fortunately, he was killed in a room right next to me. He spent his last moments in the cockpit as I stayed awake all night in a room on the left side of the plane just outside the cockpit. During the night, with my power to squint real hard into a circular piece of glass I did not see CanucksDynasty in the room. Another unfortunate fact, because I need to squint so hard looking for one person I was unable to see who actually killed Kaziocore.

Okay, so CD did not do the NK, but I am not convinced that this really clears CD. I think it is safe to assume we have three mafia players. In the beginning of the game, night actions were only allowed in your own room and in adjacent rooms. From there it seems safe to assume that the mafia had to designate someone to do the night kill (since not all mafia players could reach the same room). Therefore, if CD is mafia there is only a 1/3 chance that he would be the one to do the night kill.

 

I challenged Electric Mango recently to wake from his slumber recently and show us some of the skill he played with in previous encounters. He has done just that. Its a shame that it seems to me his efforts have focused on a friendly passenger. As of yet I am unsure whether to cite this as circumstance of CanucksDynasty's recent behavior which I admit is less than passive or because he was intentionally trying to mislead us. I am more critical of Martino. I believe Martino has been hiding more than Electric Mango recently. Martino creeps out from between the seats of our airliner now after we have crash landed hoping to have some kind of sway. I am concerned that he has only shown himself now to dominate the island and take terrorist supremacy of the land. I will review his voting record as well as that of Electric Mango and see what I can find. I implore CanucksDynasty to do the same as well as our other innocent survivors. Good luck gentlemen, lets not give in just yet.

I don't quite understand where the believe that I have not been contributing the last few days comes from. I could understand it if you were talking about the beginning of the game. I didn't have any big suspicions back then, so there was no case for me to make. However, the last two days I have been more vocal and have made real cases against two players. Yesterday I made a case against SinKon. A few people seemed to agree and it was looking like he was going to get lynched. The next day I log in to find SJ lynched with 6 votes based on hardly anything. I believe more blame is to be cast on the people who quickly lynched SJ without too much of a case, than on me. Today I strengthened my case against SinKon and lead the charge against CD. Again, I believe my case against CD is based on far more than his case against me. So please explain to me, how have I been laying low recently?

 

 

 

Now that Aquinas has revealed he received an item.

I'm fairly certain that there are no power roles that were given at the start for the town.

Only the chance of picking up items with limited abilities.

 

I do know that items can be role-blocked (if Narsis is telling the truth) since I privately confirmed it with the mod.

I ask that the townie with a med kit protect Aquinas...since his item seems more cop-like.

 

1. Narsis - claimed to be roleblocked.

3. Electric Mango -

5. Samus -

8. SinKon -

9. Falzis -

11. Aquinas - claimed to found monocle item

12. CanucksDynasty - claimed to found item that would reveal mafia if killed

13. Martino -

 

 

Assuming Narsis is telling the truth about roleblock (which I do)...

And I believe Aquinas to be townie (since he has detailed description of an item)

And I believe only items can be picked up by townies (to make up for the fact that there are probably no townie power roles).

 

To me...the remaining suspects are...

 

3. Electric Mango -

5. Samus -

8. SinKon -

9. Falzis -

13. Martino -

 

I believe SinKon is townie since it doesn't make sense to kill off Kaziocore who thought SinKon was townie.

I'm unsure about Samus but that role has been abandoned twice...leading me to believe it is townie role too.

 

So the remaining are mafia...

3. Electric Mango -

9. Falzis -

13. Martino -

 

Okay, so CD did not do the NK, but I am not convinced that this really clears CD. I think it is safe to assume we have three mafia players. In the beginning of the game, night actions were only allowed in your own room and in adjacent rooms. From there it seems safe to assume that the mafia had to designate someone to do the night kill (since not all mafia players could reach the same room). Therefore, if CD is mafia there is only a 1/3 chance that he would be the one to do the night kill.

 

 

I don't quite understand where the believe that I have not been contributing the last few days comes from. I could understand it if you were talking about the beginning of the game. I didn't have any big suspicions back then, so there was no case for me to make. However, the last two days I have been more vocal and have made real cases against two players. Yesterday I made a case against SinKon. A few people seemed to agree and it was looking like he was going to get lynched. The next day I log in to find SJ lynched with 6 votes based on hardly anything. I believe more blame is to be cast on the people who quickly lynched SJ without too much of a case, than on me. Today I strengthened my case against SinKon and lead the charge against CD. Again, I believe my case against CD is based on far more than his case against me. So please explain to me, how have I been laying low recently?

 

Your case against me is cuz I wanted to know who the cop was.

 

IF I was mafia...why on earth would I need to know that????

Based on a 3 mafia game ... all I would need to do was lynch any townie and the game would be over!!

 

 

It's been 6 hours and the game hasn't ended yet even with 2 votes on Martino.

3 possibilities...

 

1. Martino is mafia...thus in not lynched by his fellow mafia members.

2. Either Narsis and/or me are mafia.

3. Mafia aren't online to cast 3 subsequent votes.

 

Of course...I think #1 is true.

Your case against me is cuz I wanted to know who the cop was.

Even if that really was my complete case, it would still clearly beat your case that I am scum because I am still alive on D4. But my case is that you tried to get the cop to roleclaim no matter what. Even when I pointed out that there were situations where it would be beneficial for the town if the cop laid low, you still demanded that the cop roleclaimed no matter what. Furthermore, you claimed to have a pro town item, but managed to claim it in such a way that it became completely useless. But conveniently enough it did provide you with a reason why you will not be nightkilled this game. On top of that, you were a very vocal defender of SinKon the last two days. I'm still convinced he is scum as well.

 

It's been 6 hours and the game hasn't ended yet even with 2 votes on Martino.

3 possibilities...

 

1. Martino is mafia...thus in not lynched by his fellow mafia members.

2. Either Narsis and/or me are mafia.

3. Mafia aren't online to cast 3 subsequent votes.

 

Of course...I think #1 is true.

Seriously? You want to draw this conclusion after a mere 6 hours? Though I do agree that the game is pretty much doomed if you are not scum. (Unless Narsis has me completely fooled, but then it'll probably still be doomed as a Narsis lynch seems highly unlikely)

Even if that really was my complete case, it would still clearly beat your case that I am scum because I am still alive on D4. But my case is that you tried to get the cop to roleclaim no matter what. Even when I pointed out that there were situations where it would be beneficial for the town if the cop laid low, you still demanded that the cop roleclaimed no matter what. Furthermore, you claimed to have a pro town item, but managed to claim it in such a way that it became completely useless. But conveniently enough it did provide you with a reason why you will not be nightkilled this game. On top of that, you were a very vocal defender of SinKon the last two days. I'm still convinced he is scum as well.

 

 

You're convinced SinKon is scum.

 

Then can you please explain why Kaziocore was nightkilled?

He was a vocal supporter of SinKon.

He did not display any notion that he had a pro-town role.

 

IF SinKon was mafia...why was Kaziocore nightkilled?

 

 

Seriously? You want to draw this conclusion after a mere 6 hours? Though I do agree that the game is pretty much doomed if you are not scum. (Unless Narsis has me completely fooled, but then it'll probably still be doomed as a Narsis lynch seems highly unlikely)

 

Time will tell...

 

I am not scum...although at this point we are just pointing fingers at each other.

And indeed...if Narsis cleverly lied about the roleblocking and provided a game-breaking strategy to fool the town then kudos for him.

It's been 6 hours and the game hasn't ended yet even with 2 votes on Martino.

3 possibilities...

 

1. Martino is mafia...thus in not lynched by his fellow mafia members.

2. Either Narsis and/or me are mafia.

3. Mafia aren't online to cast 3 subsequent votes.

 

Of course...I think #1 is true.

 

why do you think i voted for Martino? (rhetoric question btw.)

You're convinced SinKon is scum.

 

Then can you please explain why Kaziocore was nightkilled?

He was a vocal supporter of SinKon.

He did not display any notion that he had a pro-town role.

 

IF SinKon was mafia...why was Kaziocore nightkilled?

I don't know why he was NK'ed, but there are several options. Perhaps SinKon thought it would be too obvious if he killed one of the peope attacking him. Perhaps the mafia thought Kazio had a powerrole. Perhaps the mafia wanted you to believe SinKon would not kill one of his supporters.

 

I'm still lining up against CD. His claiming of the item just does not make sense and his argument about Sinkon is all based off of WIFOM.

 

If we believe Aquinas, it doesn't absolve CD of being mafia, it only eliminates him as being the hitman, not the other two roles.

 

I'm going to have another look at everything before placing my vote.

 

NO RASH LYNCHES!

If we believe Aquinas, it doesn't absolve CD of being mafia, it only eliminates him as being the hitman, not the other two roles.

 

I realized this when I made the post. I'm afraid it does not absolve him of all doubt but, I was hoping it would lift some suspicions. No matter how much information it grants us, I am not suspect of CanucksDynasty. At the same rate I am not going to jump on and lynch Martino. Although, I am suspicious I don't see much more than an intuition argument against him which at this point in the game is not a benefit in my mind. Its interesting that he has not received the third vote from someone else which hints slightly at him being mafia but, we seem to be up against a very smart scum team this time around and would not be surprised they are not just jumping on to kill him to avoid suspicion. In fact, I find that to be just as likely as any of the situations CanucksDynasty pointed out.

 

I do not think any of the situations involving Kaziocore's death that were pointed out by Martino earlier are nearly as likely however. I'm most eagerly waiting Electric Mango's vote at this point. I think it will reveal quite a bit.

 

@Martino: What is keeping you from placing an vote on CanucksDynasty? Or did you?

Unofficial Vote Count

 

Martino (2) - CanucksDynasty, Narsis

 

Not Voting (6) - Martino, EM, Falzis, Aquinas, Samus, SinKon

I'm still lining up against CD. His claiming of the item just does not make sense and his argument about Sinkon is all based off of WIFOM.

 

If we believe Aquinas, it doesn't absolve CD of being mafia, it only eliminates him as being the hitman, not the other two roles.

 

I'm going to have another look at everything before placing my vote.

 

NO RASH LYNCHES!

 

 

Actually it absolves me of 2 mafia roles (roleblocker and hitman).

Narsis claimed to have been roleblocked and Kaziocore was killed.

With Aquinas eyes focused on me...I didn't move anywhere.

 

@MOD - Can we get a prod on SinKon and Samus?

Thanks for the vote of confidence Aquinas.

I hope that clears me of further suspicion.

 

Provided I survive the lynch...I am asking to be paired with you (Aquinas) at night.

I didn't reveal everything about the item I found.

 

 

At this point...my direction turns to Martino, EM and Falzis.

All whom placed SFOS on me.

As easy lynch target since I lost my cool.

All of them asking if this is correct...perhaps waiting for 2 townies to place their votes on me before swooping in to place 3 consecutive votes.

 

SFOS: Martino, EM, and Falzis.

 

I already voted for Martino.

As did Narsis.

 

I didn't SFOS you... yet.

 

How convenient of you to say that "I didn't reveal everything about the item I found".

 

Everything about Sinkon is WIFOM. I still believe more than the cases made against CD and Martino, Sinkon is our best scum candidate.

 

Scum lines against Narsis. Hiding after D2 (or was it D3) when he drew so much heat and then appeared sometime later when the heat was off. I don't know why he's inactive now (since I think he's still active in other threads, like Samus but Samus inherited Firkked's role which I believe is townie unlike AoD) but I believe as well that this is a form of hiding from the heat.

 

Also, was Narsis really the one to give the "game-breaking" strategy on D1? Wasn't it a combination of ideas from EM, Firrkked and Narsis?

@Martino: What is keeping you from placing an vote on CanucksDynasty? Or did you?

Because I am as suspicious of SinKon as I am of CD. Voting CD now means that it will be between me and CD. I would like to keep SinKon in the discussion. He may have suddenly turned inactive, but that does not mean we should forget about him.

 

I didn't SFOS you... yet.

 

How convenient of you to say that "I didn't reveal everything about the item I found".

 

Everything about Sinkon is WIFOM. I still believe more than the cases made against CD and Martino, Sinkon is our best scum candidate.

 

Scum lines against Narsis. Hiding after D2 (or was it D3) when he drew so much heat and then appeared sometime later when the heat was off. I don't know why he's inactive now (since I think he's still active in other threads, like Samus but Samus inherited Firkked's role which I believe is townie unlike AoD) but I believe as well that this is a form of hiding from the heat.

 

Also, was Narsis really the one to give the "game-breaking" strategy on D1? Wasn't it a combination of ideas from EM, Firrkked and Narsis?

 

My apologies for lumping you in with Martino and EM.

However, in one of your posts you suspected me, SinKon, and Narsis as mafia.

So I took that as the SFOS...again...sorry.

 

I revealed the most important part of the item.

I didn't disclose the name of the item and a side/minor ability of it.

 

IF you truly believe SinKon is scum...then why not vote for him.?

It'll only be one vote and it takes 2 wrong townie votes before scum can capitalize on it.

 

At first I was also suspicous of Narsis claim of roleblocking.

But there was no need for him to claim that anyways.

He was already casted in a favourable light for the D1 "game-breaking" strategy.

And it was Firkked who briefly mentioned it but Narsis to fully detail it.

EM had no part in it (if I recall correctly)...find me a post to prove it otherwise.

I did have a part in it. I was the first one to cast suspicion on those that suggested the other plan. I'll go back and list relevant posts when I get home from work.

 

 

I did vote for Sinkon albeit QUASI VOTE (look some pages back) following the strategy of Martino to pseudo vote so the cop could see where things stand and speak out if needed to avoid a mislynch, which I agree with since I believe the cop still had one valid investigation even if we ASSUME the cop is Narsis (since he was roleblocked twice, he still investigated during D1).

 

If Narsis is not the cop then the real cop has more investigations he could share. I would think all investigations resulted in townie finds since if the cop had a scum investigated he would have shared it by now to avoid a LYLO.

 

My vote is on Sinkon you can bet on it.

I did have a part in it. I was the first one to cast suspicion on those that suggested the other plan. I'll go back and list relevant posts when I get home from work.

 

 

I remember you placing a FOS on KevinH and (I think Aquinas) for them suggesting a max spread strategy.

That was all it was.

 

It was Firkked that briefly brought up the subject and then Narsis spelled it out in detail.

You posted later saying...yeah I was gonna post that strategy too.

Not exactly coming up with the idea...more like after the fact (and you wanting to get some credit too).

 

@EM - Saved you the trouble...

 

MOD: When the next morning comes, will the passengers know who spent the night with them in their compartment?

 

No. But all movements at the end of the day are posted in-thread.

Movements for night actions are unknown to anyone but the movers.

 

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff77/molestargazer/PlaneDiagram.png

 

 

FOS: Aquinas and KevinH

 

 

I'm all for finding out the nuts and bolts of how the map works, I'm not sure that having people follow a pre-determined strategy can benefit the town over scum (eg anytime scum know where to find town it makes their job easier).

 

If a strategy for placement comes into discussion later that is obvious, brilliant and definitely works in favor of the Town I will change my opinion, otherwise I feel a maximum spread strategy may confuse more than help.

 

This is due to the connectedness of the map. A max spread would still give scum access to 3-5 people depending on the area.

 

Breaking up into groups where the scum can't move would help, if there were no pro-town power roles (eg agreeing to stay in only areas 1,4,7 and 8 as they are not connected to each other and scum couldn't move to any other group as they would be 2 moves away).

 

This is why I'm not convinced on a strategy for where people go for the night, other than being in areas 4 or 6 gives you the most areas to move to/from (good for scum, bad for town).

 

Also, EM - reasons for FOS?

 

 

doing some quick math:

 

if we want to limit the ability of power roles as much as possible(not really a bad idea for the first night) then splitting into areas: 2, 3, 7, and 8 in groups of 3 and one of 4 will mean that whoever dies must have been targetted by someone in their section, greatly narrowing down the suspect list. although we do limit what pro-town power roles can do consider:

 

1) they likely won't have someone in particular they want to target(or won't mind picking someone else)

 

2) there will be little to no additional limitations of who they can target nor would there be any less information available to them.

 

 

so at least for night one(and probably night two as well) i think that our best move is to split into groups of 3 and 4 spread out over sections 2, 3, 7, and 8.

 

 

I FOS'd them because they were the first to suggest that the town all move to different areas. As it has already been discussed, I too thought our best strategy was to divide the town into groups spread far apart from each other. This way we could limit the possible scum suspects. That is why I asked the Mole if we could tell where people had spent the night.

 

I did not get to read anything much after page 3 because I'm pressed for time so I don't know what recent conversation has taken place. I'll catch up on everything tomorrow and give some more insight.

 

I will probably vote for Kevin or Aquinas tomorrow but will have to wait until I read all the posts.