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[Lysistrata]

Rusken... your opinions are 100% valid on all counts, and they represent the majority of how people feel. I still believe we would be much better off if Romney was elected, but so many people did not support him because of many positions he took as a Governor, he did not embrace his success the way Trump has, and he is a Mormon. The USA deserves the government they elect, hopefully we will do better this time. It will determine our future as a Republic.

[onbekende]

 

The world is moving to the left and shunning hate and intolerance. Join the bandwagon buddy or you'll be deserted.

I'd love to feel so optimistic, but I would say exactly the opposite is happening.

 

well its a shift to the left for "all that I deem to be my family", which is the same left as the nazi's were left.

 

Want a truely "left-leaning" nation, go to Bhutan >_>

[Rafay]

It was the "Recession of '08"... and it's still here. Since Obama was elected President seven years ago, the Federal Reserve has locked the interest rate on currency to zero. That pretty much means money is free to the banks. They have printed money at an astronomical rate, created 10 trillion dollars of new debt, and fabricated an artificial illusion of recovery. The only benefit to this is an over-valued Stock Market. All other investments are worthless.

 

Wow. Have you seen the unemployment lately. Its going down faster than an American on Big Macs.

 

When the towers fell on 9-11... the country demanded war. We should have taken out Iran after Iraq. The mistake was pulling out after we had made the decision to stay. Now we have, what we have now... that was Obama.

 

Haha. More veterans your conservative buddies didn't want to take care of. That's what would have happened. More PTSD than you could handle. Lets face it buddy, the American army was the greatest after WW2 but after Vietnam, I think you've lost your magic. You do have the greatest weapons and tech but lets face it, its about the guy pulling the trigger. I'd hate to break it to you but American troops have forgotten how to be brave like they were in WW2.

 

Oh Rafay... your hate and intolerance is showing.

 

lol wut m8? Did I wrong you? I'm sorry for that I guess. 

which is the same left as the nazi's were left.

 

Well if you keep electing guys like Trump and Bush who hate and disrespect anything but Christianity then we'll have a WW3 sitch.

 

WWIII: Rise of the East.......long overdue sequel. 

I'd love to feel so optimistic, but I would say exactly the opposite is happening.

 

Actually it was reported in the Gallup survey earlier this year or Pew I think...... 

[onbekende]

oi, I aint american!

 

also meh christianity, heck the US is doing the non-Roman one aswell. Dunno whats worse, 2h long boring church mass or 2h long loud obnoxious singing church mass.

[Lysistrata]

You know Betsy... the things you say are so confusing that I believe you are sitting in a bar, with an IPhone, poking buttons, as you're pounding Patron shots.

 

Rafay... the unemployment rate is going down because people are leaving the workforce faster than business' can lay people off. We have less people working now than we had 40 years ago... and I know some Navy Seals that would love to talk with you about bravery.

[Rafay]

the unemployment rate is going down because people are leaving the workforce faster than business' can lay people off.

 

Don't even know what that means sir? 

 

So you're saying that ppl are self-employed or the data from Dept of Labor is not to be trusted?

 

I know some Navy Seals that would love to talk with you about bravery.

 

 

Navy Seals. Lets not forget Tehran mind you. And even if they are the best, they haven't beaten the Taliban nor the ISIS.

[onbekende]

You know Betsy... the things you say are so confusing that I believe you are sitting in a bar, with an IPhone, poking buttons, as you're pounding Patron shots.

1) don't step willingly in a bar

2) got no iPhone

3) I do poke buttons, I am doing so as I type

4) I am guessing "patron" is an alcoholic beverage (seeing the addition of "shots" behind it), only once drank alcohol. I don't agree with it.

 

=> must be my mix of lighthearted together with semi-coherent ramblings of seriousness

[Lysistrata]

Hi Rafay... I don't know how much you are into crunching numbers on the US economy, but this website will give you a wealth of information about it without spin. If you think it's good, you have a lot in common with climate change believers, if you think it's bad it's nothing compared to how bad it will get after the Federal Reserve raises interest rates... and they have to raise them, it's not an option to keep them at zero forever. Notice the "Official Unemployment", "Actual Unemployment", "Not In Labor Force" numbers. If you are unemployed and have quit looking for work, as millions have... you are not counted in the Dept. of Labor rate. So the actual unemployment rate is 10-11%

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

[Shahenshah]

I would go further than tracking. I would have congress pass articles designating Islam to be recognized as a form of government. This takes away the Constitutional freedom of religion they exploit... and use against us, and Mosques immediately become unsanctioned and illegal embassies. That would take care of that. Call it a separation of church and state, that'll work.

The state is separated from religion or is it not? Last I checked it were the conservatives trying to undo the separation.

There's more conservative terrorism in America presently than any religious one.

Heh you even tried to actually form a separate govt so you can keep the slaves. I suppose that defeat didn't remove the xenophobic strand. The flags gone too now due to terrorism.

Nationals who don't want to pay taxes or adhere to laws of the land, should be kicked or jailed. Those nationals could be of any race, creed, religion, how hard is that. Illegals, yea, deport them and make stricter border controls, I think that's common sense. Generally, immigration should be based on skill requirements, you bring in smart educated people to plug the gaps where existing population can't.

Those advocating special laws could have a start by wearing badges themselves saying "I'm special". You guys honestly are late by 70 years for this whole thing.

Edited by Shahenshah, 23 November 2015 - 04:07 AM.

[Lysistrata]

 

I would go further than tracking. I would have congress pass articles designating Islam to be recognized as a form of government. This takes away the Constitutional freedom of religion they exploit... and use against us, and Mosques immediately become unsanctioned and illegal embassies. That would take care of that. Call it a separation of church and state, that'll work.

The state is separated from religion or is it not? Last I checked it were the conservatives trying to undo the separation.

That was a joke Sir.

There's more conservative terrorism in America presently than any religious one.

This must be your joke Sir.

Heh you even tried to actually form a separate govt so you can keep the slaves. I suppose that defeat didn't remove the xenophobic strand. The flags gone too now due to terrorism.

That was the Democrats Sir.

Nationals who don't want to pay taxes or adhere to laws of the land, should be kicked or jailed. Those nationals could be of any race, creed, religion, how hard is that. Illegals, yea, deport them and make stricter border controls, I think that's common sense. Generally, immigration should be based on skill requirements, you bring in smart educated people to plug the gaps where existing population can't.

I agree 100% Sir.

Those advocating special laws could have a start by wearing badges themselves saying "I'm special". You guys honestly are late by 70 years for this whole thing.

We have too many laws already. It should be a law that if Congress wants to pass any new law, they must repeal 5 old ones first.

 

[ccabal86]

The state is separated from religion or is it not? Last I checked it were the conservatives trying to undo the separation.

There's more conservative terrorism in America presently than any religious one.

Heh you even tried to actually form a separate govt so you can keep the slaves. I suppose that defeat didn't remove the xenophobic strand. The flags gone too now due to terrorism.

Nationals who don't want to pay taxes or adhere to laws of the land, should be kicked or jailed. Those nationals could be of any race, creed, religion, how hard is that. Illegals, yea, deport them and make stricter border controls, I think that's common sense. Generally, immigration should be based on skill requirements, you bring in smart educated people to plug the gaps where existing population can't.

Those advocating special laws could have a start by wearing badges themselves saying "I'm special". You guys honestly are late by 70 years for this whole thing.

Spot on, agreed 100%. Crack down hard on those that break the law and let no man hide his clandestine intentions behind any religion or ideology. Would be the common sense to do, now I wish there was more common sense in the world.

[onbekende]

well mostly the "imported immigrant workers" aren't attracted for the brilliant minds. Usually its the "dirty" jobs that get loaded on them.

[Icewolf]

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12300000

 

Proportion of population in work is slowly rising in the US. Not very fast and you are lagging behind the UK in this regard (which now has its highest ever recorded % in work figure but it has been rising since the recession bottomed out in 2010. 

 

Interestingly though, the percentage of the population in work began to fall before the financial crash. 

 

Of course the real question behind any jobs recovery is the quality of the jobs being created. In the UK outside of London essentially all jobs "recovery" has been in self-employment. Average self-employment wages are around £200 a week, which is below minimum wage. Which means not only sucky standard of living but puts them outside the tax base.

[Shahenshah]

It kinda makes it essential that you have a recognised degree and experience that you can validate, for instance a multinational fmcg.

[Icewolf]

I really have got to stop assuming Trump can't possibly stoop any lower. 

 

FFS. 

 

What next? 

 

Go to an orphanage and ask TV to film him taking a dump on its newest arrival? 

[Lysistrata]

Both sides are trying to destroy him. Democrats call him a racist. Republicans call him a fascist. Yeah right... Trump is in favor of private business under complete control of government... never in this lifetime. I'm honestly sick of people saying that we can't do something, and whatever Trump says, I'm very happy someone is saying it and asking "why can't we?". If he wins the nomination, I will support him. I'm very confident that he will get things done, and anything is better than Hillary.

[onbekende]

Well if you got a public who think that "ye shall not throw the first stone" equals extreme "political correctness", well sure you get this parade of candidates.

[PresidentMueller]

My views on this election cycle, mind you I am an Independent and a Veteran, I don't care who wins as long as they can cut through the bullshit.

 

Trump - I don't see Trump beating anyone in the General Election, he can fire up the Republican Base, but he won't be able to drift back to center, come a General Election without the loss of the Base.

Clinton - Not a fan of Clinton, she tailors her message the crowd she is in front of, and has a CMA attitude, but she would be a better option then anyone bar Sanders.

Sanders - Honestly, my number one pick for President, has good ideas, but people confuse his Democratic Socialist with Democratic Socialist = Communism/Nazism. A Sanders/Rubio or Sander/Pual presidential ticket would be scary, but it will never happen.

Bush - Another repeat of the last Bush... no thanks I will pass. The rich don't need more tax breaks and cuts, and we don't need to be the world police anymore.

Rubio - Seems willing to work with Democrats provided he gets help in return, I feel if it came down to a General Election, he would have a better chance of beating Clinton then anyone else, and win Florida without the help of the Supreme Court.

Cruz - He knows how to shut down the government, and that is about it. Not a fan of his extreme hyper focus on Christians, last I checked Bill of Rights, Freedom of (and from) Religion.

 

I feel the best way to cut down on the hard stance, toe the party line, there should be a Constitutional Amendment, ratified by all 50 states that the winner of the Republican and Democratic Nominations must pick a running mate from the other party to be their VP, and that at least 2 Cabinet spots for any President must be from the other party.

[Icewolf]

Both sides are trying to destroy him. Democrats call him a racist. Republicans call him a fascist. Yeah right... Trump is in favor of private business under complete control of government... never in this lifetime. I'm honestly sick of people saying that we can't do something, and whatever Trump says, I'm very happy someone is saying it and asking "why can't we?". If he wins the nomination, I will support him. I'm very confident that he will get things done, and anything is better than Hillary.

Trump would annihilate America. Its not just he is doing and saying these things whilst running, but if he wins it will validate to him that these views are acceptable. And he would have the power to actually cause the damage he just threatens to do at the moment.

[Shahenshah]

Trump will bring more multi-polarity to the world like the last Republican president, he'll be good for the world in the long-run.