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[MK-2] Friends and Enemies Mafia - Mafia Win

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Unless something more incriminating comes up, I'm going to head with my gut for now:


​Something more incriminating has come up. Rafay making comments that make it seem he knows for a fact I'm town. Which only scum would know. 

​FS just hasn't voted yet. Which is a tad suspicious but yesterday evening there were 7 other people not voting so it doesn't seem that uniquely suspicious to me. Could just be he's been busy the last couple of days. 

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@iSoc - What is your take on the Rafay comments? Anything else standing out to you at this point?


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I wouldn't want to defend anyone at this point. FS has been active, just not recently. I think it's going to be a shot in the dark. Most likely a town will be lynched. Nothing, will point to a scum on d1. Some people are just overly promoting their lynch candidate. My candidate just happens to always be scum.
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FS108 (4): Lyner, The Warrior, vgmmaster, LordSunday
Lyner (2): iSocialism, Ferastical
vgmmaster (2): Rafay, KevinH
Rafay (2): Canik, Rhizoctonia
Canik (1): Kitkat16
Rhizoctonia (0):
Kitkat16 (0):
King Cankles (0):
iSocialism (0):
Ferastical (0):
KevinH (0):
The Warrior (0):
LordSunday (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: FS108, King Cankles

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Like iSoc said, I wouldn't want to defend anybody at this point. Voting for my FoS

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I wouldn't want to defend anyone at this point. FS has been active, just not recently. I think it's going to be a shot in the dark. Most likely a town will be lynched. Nothing, will point to a scum on d1. Some people are just overly promoting their lynch candidate. My candidate just happens to always be scum.

Shh don't tell the new guys

 

 

 

Also, glad to see people are actively voting



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I'd vote for FS, but I'm not particularly keen to be the hammer vote on someone for whom there is very slight evidence he is scum.


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I'd vote for FS, but I'm not particularly keen to be the hammer vote on someone for whom there is very slight evidence he is scum.


Pretty much saying I want to vote for him without any consequences. Everyone should know that we're more likely to lynch a town over a scum. IMO, there's is no evidence of who scum are right now.
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I'd vote for FS, but I'm not particularly keen to be the hammer vote on someone for whom there is very slight evidence he is scum.


Pretty much saying I want to vote for him without any consequences. Everyone should know that we're more likely to lynch a town over a scum. IMO, there's is no evidence of who scum are right now.

 

 

Yes. Where did I ever say otherwise?


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I'd vote for FS, but I'm not particularly keen to be the hammer vote on someone for whom there is very slight evidence he is scum.

I believe that there are only 5 votes on FS currently so your vote would have only been #6. 7 are needed to hammer.


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FS108 (5): Lyner, The Warrior, vgmmaster, LordSunday, King Cankles
Lyner (2): iSocialism, Ferastical
vgmmaster (2): Rafay, KevinH
Rafay (2): Canik, Rhizoctonia
Canik (1): Kitkat16
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Kitkat16 (0):
King Cankles (0):
iSocialism (0):
Ferastical (0):
KevinH (0):
The Warrior (0):
LordSunday (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: FS108

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FS108, Vanilla Townie, has been lynched on Day 1.

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FS108 : Lyner, The Warrior, vgmmaster, LordSunday, King Cankles


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vgmmaster, Vanilla Townie, went missing on Night 1.

It is now Day 2.


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Rafay (0):
Ferastical (0):
KevinH (0):
The Warrior (0):
LordSunday (0):
Lyner (0):
King Cankles (0):
Canik (0):
Kitkat16 (0):
iSocialism (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):

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Not Voting: Rafay, Ferastical, KevinH, The Warrior, LordSunday, Lyner, King Cankles, Canik, Kitkat16, iSocialism, Rhizoctonia

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How dare they kill a long-lost player!

 

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I'm not happy to see vgm being killed so early in the first game back after a long break. First thought that comes to mind was that this was done because of vgm's activity and possibly mafia history, but I don't think we should completely discount any run-ins vgm had with others on day 1. The most notable interaction vgm had on day 1 appears to have been with Rafay. There isn't anything immediately solid to go off of yet but it's worth digging into perhaps. I'll go back and re-read their interactions tonight or tomorrow morning to see if anything stands out.

 

As for the rest of day 1, everyone except FS had a vote in place at the end of the day so we might at least have something else to look back on.

 

@Kitkat - I'm interested in this post of yours from day 1:

 

I'd vote for FS, but I'm not particularly keen to be the hammer vote on someone for whom there is very slight evidence he is scum.

I can sort of understand the hesitancy to hammer someone on day 1 so I'll give you a partial pass for not casting your vote for FS, but even a quick vote count would have told you that you wouldn't be casting the hammer vote. However, if you did not want to officially vote for him, why even suggest that you would if it wasn't going to be the hammer vote?


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I'm not happy to see vgm being killed so early in the first game back after a long break. First thought that comes to mind was that this was done because of vgm's activity and possibly mafia history, but I don't think we should completely discount any run-ins vgm had with others on day 1. The most notable interaction vgm had on day 1 appears to have been with Rafay. There isn't anything immediately solid to go off of yet but it's worth digging into perhaps. I'll go back and re-read their interactions tonight or tomorrow morning to see if anything stands out.

 

As for the rest of day 1, everyone except FS had a vote in place at the end of the day so we might at least have something else to look back on.

 

@Kitkat - I'm interested in this post of yours from day 1:

 

I'd vote for FS, but I'm not particularly keen to be the hammer vote on someone for whom there is very slight evidence he is scum.

I can sort of understand the hesitancy to hammer someone on day 1 so I'll give you a partial pass for not casting your vote for FS, but even a quick vote count would have told you that you wouldn't be casting the hammer vote. However, if you did not want to officially vote for him, why even suggest that you would if it wasn't going to be the hammer vote?

 

There's no cunning mafia strategy behind that post, I was simply contributing with my thoughts at the time. It's simply a case of mafia is much more fun when people say their thoughts, and at least my post was vaguely strategic, which means it is likely to get discussion going more than just lols posts accusing one another.


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FS108 (5): Lyner, The Warrior, vgmmaster, LordSunday, King Cankles


^ Probably at least 1 scum in there.

​Wouldn't discount iSocialism tho too who did a little encourging for the FS108 vote while staying off the wagon.

​And of course Rafay is still very high on my list.

​The fact that mafia killed someone who would normally be on the 'bad wagon' suspect list leads me to believe most of the scum were not on the FS108 wagon. So iSoc, Rafay & others are still very real possibilities.

Kitkat encouraging but off the wagon is suspect too. I agree with TheWarrior there. If scum can push a vote on a town while not being on the wagon. Well that's a scum's wet dream.

​Kitkat's comment seems a little more innocent to me tho personally. Just gut feeling.



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Ya know you guys are really falling for that ole bit from the movies where "the last guy to have a fight w/ the guy who dies in the next scene is considered the prime suspect but isn't (just like me)" bit from the movies.

 

I had one vote on the guy. It was a welcome back harmless vote that didn't kill him. You know who killed him and FS108; mafia and I'll be damned if one of these ppl isn't the culprit FOS:   Lyner, The Warrior, vgmmaster, LordSunday, King Cankles

 

and Canik for suggesting I'm mafia just cuz I didn't vote to kill a townie. Well you didn't vote for him either. See where this i going. Huh huh?


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I don't suspect you at this point Rafay hence the lack of a vote or FOS in your direction. All I said was that I would dig into the interaction between vgm and you more tonight or tomorrow to see if there was anything more interesting.

What are everyone else's thoughts about vgm being targeted?
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FS108 (4): Lyner, The Warrior, vgmmaster, LordSunday
Lyner (2): iSocialism, Ferastical
vgmmaster (2): Rafay, KevinH
Rafay (2): Canik, Rhizoctonia
Canik (1): Kitkat16

 

Lyner's vote on FS108 had to stay because he had 2 votes himself.

I would have expected Rafay to switch away from vgmmaster onto one of the others to save himself.

The town had to lynch somebody so I don't hold anything against LordSunday for the 4th vote.

 

The Warrior had an early vote on  a now-known townie and kept it there as he was soon to be lynched.  That might be suspicious.



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