I investigated Imran and found him to be town.
N0 - Zacch = scum
N1 - Imran = town
I'm either the sane or insane cop, so waiting to hear what Zacch has for a claim before we can draw conclusions.
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#61
Posted 11 September 2023 - 12:38 PM
#62
Posted 11 September 2023 - 09:18 PM
I investigated VGM on N1 and got the result "VGM is town".
N0 - Imran - Town
N1 - VGM - Town
I'm pretty confident that I'm Niave Cop, Chap is Insane Cop and Imran is Scum.
Vote: Imran
Unvote (to prevent hammer).
#63
Posted 11 September 2023 - 09:25 PM
#64
Posted 11 September 2023 - 11:11 PM
Just wanted to see NE's reaction, now I know for certain Imran is scum.
Unvote
Vote Imran
Can you explain this post to me Zacch? You said you knew for certain Imran was scum based on Northern Empires reaction?
#65
Posted 11 September 2023 - 11:35 PM
Just wanted to see NE's reaction, now I know for certain Imran is scum.
Unvote
Vote Imran
Can you explain this post to me Zacch? You said you knew for certain Imran was scum based on Northern Empires reaction?
I was on the fence about NE and thought he could very well be scum with the way he was playing. I wasn't sure if he was just new player or trying to act like one. But his reaction to being hammered sold me on his authenticity.
I thought it was a convenient vote by Imran, knowing that he wouldn't be seen as the first vote or the hammer. Its also interesting the VGM was killed on N1, I feel like a N1 result for VGM would have confirmed everyone's sanity. Something about Imran seems off, day 1 he avoided talking about VGM's result until NE directly questioned him on it.
Scenario 1: Chap (Insane), NE (Paranoid), VGM (Sane), Zacch (Niave) ...... Imran (Scum).
Scenario 2: Imran (Niave), NE (Paranoid), VGM (Insane), Zacch (Sane) ...... Chap (Scum).
Either Imran is scum or Chap is trying to frame him as scum.
My intuition is saying Imran is scum.
#66
Posted 12 September 2023 - 03:50 AM
Night 0
Chaplain targeted Zacch - mafia
vgm targeted Imran - mafia
Imran targeted Chaplain - town
Northern Empire targeted Zacch - mafia
Zacch targeted Imran - town
Night 1
Imran targeted Zacch - town
Chaplain targeted Imran - town
Zacch targeted vgm - town
There's also Scenario 3: Chaplain (sane), NE (Paranoid), vgm (Insane), Imran (Naive) ........ Zacch (Scum)
You were also last to point your results both times, which allows you to analyze the results from others and before posting. You also threw 2 votes out early based on very little and then came out with a full analysis 23 hours later after nobody jumped on to vote with you.
Then you unvote after the hammer with the explanation that NE's response made you think he was town, but his post was calling you out for throwing your vote everywhere.
Finally you threw an early vote out today even thought we're LYLO, you retracted it fairly quickly but the fact that you would throw that vote out at all, especially after Imran even made note of it, is odd.
Its a bit odd to me as well that you chose to hammer the target that I specifically mentioned would give us less information. If you had been sincere about allowing yourself to be lynched so that town could maximize information gained from the lynch, I don't see a single reason why you would hammer NE instead.
#67
Posted 12 September 2023 - 05:50 AM
I thought it was a convenient vote by Imran, knowing that he wouldn't be seen as the first vote or the hammer. Its also interesting the VGM was killed on N1, I feel like a N1 result for VGM would have confirmed everyone's sanity. Something about Imran seems off, day 1 he avoided talking about VGM's result until NE directly questioned him on it.
The only reason I didnt for you was because you pulled the stunt of voting for yourself. There is only 1 scum in the game and if scum gets lynched, the game is over. So it was either a case of scum Zacch giving up on winning the game or Town Zacch actually sacrificing himself for the townies benefit. Thats why I switched my vote to NE who was 2nd on my list. However it was clear later that it was not town Zacch sacrifing himself, as you almost immediately after my vote unvoted yourself and hammered NE. As COD also pointed out, there was also discussion about who the best option for D1 lynch will be (someone who had multiple investigation results on him). So the best lynch would have been either you or me. VGM did not seem inclined to vote for me and you didnt give a chance to COD to give his input before you hammered. So I am not sure where you are going with saying my vote was a convenient one, while yours were OK.
About me avoiding VGMs result, there is a paranoid and an insane cop in the game. I knew VGM is probably insane as you had 2 scum result votes on you, which would mean the paranoid cop investigated you, not me, provided the scum wasnt fake claiming. At that point NE's claim of a guilty resulty on you also seemed like a scum claim to me.
All 3 scenarios posted above are possible, based on the results but I think COD hit it right on the head:
There's also Scenario 3: Chaplain (sane), NE (Paranoid), vgm (Insane), Imran (Naive) ........ Zacch (Scum)
You seem to be copying my results and is now also claiming to be the Naive cop. I dont think COD is the scum. Any last words?
Classified Intel on Empire of Imran:
#68
Posted 12 September 2023 - 04:18 PM
I thought it was a convenient vote by Imran, knowing that he wouldn't be seen as the first vote or the hammer. Its also interesting the VGM was killed on N1, I feel like a N1 result for VGM would have confirmed everyone's sanity. Something about Imran seems off, day 1 he avoided talking about VGM's result until NE directly questioned him on it.
The only reason I didnt for you was because you pulled the stunt of voting for yourself. There is only 1 scum in the game and if scum gets lynched, the game is over. So it was either a case of scum Zacch giving up on winning the game or Town Zacch actually sacrificing himself for the townies benefit. Thats why I switched my vote to NE who was 2nd on my list. However it was clear later that it was not town Zacch sacrifing himself, as you almost immediately after my vote unvoted yourself and hammered NE. As COD also pointed out, there was also discussion about who the best option for D1 lynch will be (someone who had multiple investigation results on him). So the best lynch would have been either you or me. VGM did not seem inclined to vote for me and you didnt give a chance to COD to give his input before you hammered. So I am not sure where you are going with saying my vote was a convenient one, while yours were OK.
About me avoiding VGMs result, there is a paranoid and an insane cop in the game. I knew VGM is probably insane as you had 2 scum result votes on you, which would mean the paranoid cop investigated you, not me, provided the scum wasnt fake claiming. At that point NE's claim of a guilty resulty on you also seemed like a scum claim to me.
All 3 scenarios posted above are possible, based on the results but I think COD hit it right on the head:
There's also Scenario 3: Chaplain (sane), NE (Paranoid), vgm (Insane), Imran (Naive) ........ Zacch (Scum)
You seem to be copying my results and is now also claiming to be the Naive cop. I dont think COD is the scum. Any last words?
GG I guess scum is going to win this one.
#69
Posted 12 September 2023 - 06:17 PM
Vote Count:
Zacch (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
Not voting: Zacch, Imran Ehsan, Chaplain of Death
#70
Posted 12 September 2023 - 06:55 PM
Vote Zacch
Classified Intel on Empire of Imran:
#71
Posted 12 September 2023 - 10:40 PM
I guess you are not gonna try to explain the hammer on NE?
Vote Zacch
I already did explained why I voted for NE.
Why did you vote for NE?
Vote: Imran
#72
Posted 12 September 2023 - 10:46 PM
To be honest, I think Chap is the real scum.
I'l go back to my D1 arguement, very unlikely that both the insane cop and paranoid cop would both investigate me on N0.
Unvote
Vote: Chap.
#73
Posted 13 September 2023 - 01:52 AM
I'm going to be real sad if you don't flip scum Zacch, but your behavior has been so all over the place.
I guess you are not gonna try to explain the hammer on NE?
Vote Zacch
I already did explained why I voted for NE.
Why did you vote for NE?
Vote: Imran
You thought Imrans vote on NE was awfully convenient so you hammered him?
Vote: Zacch
#74
Posted 13 September 2023 - 05:05 AM
Vote Count:
Zacch (2): Imran Ehsan, Chaplain of Death
Chaplain of Death (1): Zacch,
Imran Ehsan (0):
Not voting:
Zacch, Town Cop, has been lynched
Mafia (Imran Ehsan) wins!
#75
Posted 13 September 2023 - 05:19 AM
#76
Posted 13 September 2023 - 05:28 AM
Mafia Goon Imran Ehsan
Sane Cop vgmmaster
Insane Cop Chaplain of Death
Paranoid Cop Northern Empire
Naive Cop Zacch
Night 0
vgmmaster investigates Imran Ehsan (told he was Mafia)
Chaplain of Death investigates Zacch (told he was Mafia)
Northern Empire investigates Zacch (told he was Mafia)
Zacch investigates Imran Ehsan (told he was Town)
Day 1
Northern Empire lynched
Night 1
Imran Ehsan kills vgmmaster
vgmmaster tried to investigate Zacch
Chaplain of Death investigates Imran Ehsan (told he was Town)
Zacch investigates vgmmaster (told she was Town)
Day 2
Zacch lynched
#77
Posted 13 September 2023 - 07:39 AM
Classified Intel on Empire of Imran:
#78
Posted 13 September 2023 - 08:55 AM
Well played Imran. I had a feeling Zacch was going to live through the night so figured he was the best investigation target. Wasn't sure who was going to be killed, but not surprised it was me.
Mafia Goon Imran Ehsan
Sane Cop vgmmaster
Night 0
vgmmaster investigates Imran Ehsan (told he was Mafia)
Night 1
Imran Ehsan kills vgmmaster
Zacch investigates vgmmaster (told he was Town)
And sure enough, I nailed it with my guess. Here I was thinking I was insane day 1 (or paranoid) and figured what were the odds the sane cop had the right result from the get go. Be curious how differently it would have played out differently it say Chap was killed instead of myself. Hard to say.
Also, Zacch investigating me and being told 'he was town', I'm actually a girl Kevin.
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#79
Posted 13 September 2023 - 10:24 AM
well played everybody,
good job,
#80
Posted 13 September 2023 - 04:54 PM
fixedAlso, Zacch investigating me and being told 'he was town', I'm actually a girl Kevin.
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