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Cybernations Mafia

 
Only the following roles may exist in this game:

Vanilla Townie, Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Role Cop, Vanilla Cop, Flavor Cop, Doctor, Friendly Neighbor, Follower, Gunsmith, Innocent Child, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Mafia Goon, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Ninja, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Traitor, Mason, Miller, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Nurse, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Serial Killer, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vigilante, Voyeur, Watcher

The following modifiers may also exist in this game:

Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot

 

Assigned character names are various alliances from Cybernations. Ignore all current Cybernations foreign relations. The current treaty web has no bearing on the assigned characters. Alliances were randomly assigned as "good" or "bad" roles so one's personal opinion of an alliance will not necessarily translate to this game.
 

Sample Role PM said:

You are Valhalla, a Vanilla Townie. Your power is in your vote. You win when the Town controls the game.

 
Players:

1) Imran Ehsan (New Pacific Order) a Town 2-Shot Roleblocker has been rolled on night 3.
2) Robert2424 (Independent Republic of Orange Nations) a Town Universal Backup, has been rolled on night 7.
3) d3mon (Green Protection Agency) a Town Jack-of-all-Trades has been disbanded on day 3.
4) Samus (Umbrella) a Town 2-Shot Rolestopper has been rolled on night 1.
5) Yehom (New Polar Order) a Town Even-Night Follower, has been rolled on night 5.
6) Rafay (Orange Defense Network) a Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades has been disbanded on day 6.
7) Canik
8) Chaplain of Death (Doombird Doomcave) a Town Non-Consecutive Night Watcher has been rolled on night 3.
9) Ali bin Turban (R&R) a Town Vanilla Cop has been rolled on night 4.
10) iSocialism
11) King Hitler (NATO) a Town 1-Shot Commuter has been rolled on night 2.
12) Kaziocore (The Legion) a Town Odd-Night Tracker has been disbanded on day 2.
13) Finster Baby (Mostly Harmless Alliance) a Mafia 1-Shot Strongman has been disbanded on day 5.
14) Rhizoctonia (The Dark Templar) the Mafia Godfather has been disbanded on day 4.
15) Lyner
16) Avater (Federation of Armed Nations), a Town Motion Detector, has been forced to disband on day 7.
17) Roquentin
18) Mandarijn

19) KevinH (Sparta) a Town Miller, has been rolled on night 6.

 

Rules:

• During the Day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night. The Mafia may speak to each other at Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
• You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread, but you may not get an answer to some things.
• When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.

Game Days will last seven days.
Game Nights will last 48 hours.

With the denizens of Bob incorrectly forcing the Green Protection Agency to disband during the day, the rest of the world was left wondering what would happen next. Night three proved to be even more violent than the previous day for the remaining world alliances. Multiple wars broke out on various parts of the globe resulting in nuclear warfare. The global radiation level is skyrocketing and the soldier casualty counts are climbing. Two more alliances have been rolled and the unknown Hegemony seems to be consolidating power. Shockingly, neither the New Pacific Order nor Doombird Doomcave have been proven to be members of this new Hegemony!

 

Imran Ehsan (New Pacific Order) a 2-Shot Roleblocker, has been rolled in the night.

Chaplain of Death (Doombird Doomcave) a Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, has been rolled in the night.

It is now Day 4. With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at update (deadline).
Update (deadline) is Monday, May 23rd, at 9:00am CN Server Time.

Vote Count

Ali bin Turban (0):

Avater (0):

Canik (0):

Finster Baby (0):

iSocialism (0):

KevinH (0):

Lyner (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rafay (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):
Robert2424 (0):

Roquentin (0):

TheDoom (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Ali bin Turban, Avater, Canik, Finster Baby, iSocialism, KevinH, Lyner, Mandarijn, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Robert2424, Roquentin, TheDoom

 
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at update (deadline).
Update (deadline) is Monday, May 23rd, at 9:00am CN Server Time.

Wow guys, such a bad call. Especially from KevinH... But also from Roq, who could've switched his vote in the end there. All the others on d3mon's wagon are suspects.

 

For me it's pretty clear Rhizo is scum, Ali is pro town and Canik has also earned townie points for me.

 

Rafay, Yehom and Roq are at the top of the list just behind Rhizo now, followed by the ones with a random vote: Finster, ISoc and Lyner

Avater and Robert, really need to get more active.

 

I say we lynch Rhizo now. We'll need to discuss who we lynch next (I'll need to re-read some stuff), but Rafay, Lyner, FB all seem good candidates.

 

Vote: Rhizo

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New post: Oh also, Finster, Yehom and Rhizo have all been reading the topic already, but didn't comment. So they could very well be all 3 scum friends...

New post: Oh also, Finster, Yehom and Rhizo have all been reading the topic already, but didn't comment. So they could very well be all 3 scum friends...

Yeah no, a coincidence I would think. I saw the new post then clicked on it, and then sat there while RL kicked my butt. I think I was in the tread a good hour because that's where I wound up idling for a meeting.

 

Very bloody evening, unfortunately for us. Right now, IMO, anyone who voted for d3mon is immediately suspect. Losing the JOAT is a big hit, even inactive, as he could have come active and helped us out quite a bit.

 

I'd like to see if anyone saw something before I cast a vote tho. It could help quite a bit.

Mandi it's day 4. You are going to need better evidence then three people being on the forum and didn't post .

First to the most is the typical mod choice for half-majority lynch. (we should spell that out as a rule somewhere)

So D3mon is still the candidate at the moment.

 

I'm leaving my vote on D3mon, because that's the best for the town.

Does it still look like the best for town? I'm sure you've not changed your mind about that - after all you must have expected such obvious result (chance was 70%) and surely have some conclusions to share .

 

We've lost 2 townies tonight and If scums can make double kill again it's a GG if there are 5 of them and we won't be able to lynch one of them today. Everyone on the d3mon's bandwaggon is a possible scum (KevinH, who knows, you might have won a "honorary scum" title ).

 

- Rafay was the first one so he's suspicious the least.

- Roq has bandwaggoned in, could have changed his vote, but clearly didn't have any doubts, so he's either a scum or is not really taking part in the game (I mean not reading posts).

- Rhizo preferred to sacrifice most probably a power role townie (I think that's no surprise to anyone that d3mon turned out to have power role) in order to save his so called "VT" life. Quite scummy.

- Yehom was the one that saved Rhizo and killed d3mon. What's more his reasoning is weird to say the least (like I've mentioned here: http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-night-3/page-30?do=findComment&comment=855286).

 

Then we also have

- iSoc making noise and running meaningless votes.

 

 

I'm more and more convinced that Rhizo is a mafia goon. But I feel we need to pressure other suspects a bit more and see if night actions have brought any results. Starting from our executioner, what were you doing during nights Yehom?

 

vote Yehom

Mandi it's day 4. You are going to need better evidence then three people being on the forum and didn't post .

Why don't you post your opinions then? Same with Finster...

 

New post: Oh also, Finster, Yehom and Rhizo have all been reading the topic already, but didn't comment. So they could very well be all 3 scum friends...

Yeah no, a coincidence I would think. I saw the new post then clicked on it, and then sat there while RL kicked my butt. I think I was in the tread a good hour because that's where I wound up idling for a meeting.Very bloody evening, unfortunately for us. Right now, IMO, anyone who voted for d3mon is immediately suspect. Losing the JOAT is a big hit, even inactive, as he could have come active and helped us out quite a bit.I'd like to see if anyone saw something before I cast a vote tho. It could help quite a bit.

No one could have knew if he was a JOAT. Saying that everyone on the wagon knew he was a JOAT, and wanted him gone. Is bit of a stretch.

True, but it was pretty obvious he would've had a power role... Why are you defending everyone so much all of a sudden?

I wouldn't say I'm directly defending anyone. I'm more just pointing something out. Why did you pretty vaguely call everyone out besides a few?

I wouldn't say I'm directly defending anyone. I'm more just pointing something out. Why did you pretty vaguely call everyone out besides a few?

Because everyone are (my) suspects, except those few. Why are you still not giving your opinion?

That's true - noone could have known he was a JOAT, but it was pretty obvious d3mon had a power role. I'd be very surprised if he hadn't one.

 

I wouldn't say I'm directly defending anyone. I'm more just pointing something out. Why did you pretty vaguely call everyone out besides a few?

You could really try and answer your question by yourself. We're in a shitty situation today and that's partially (not the biggest part, but still a bit) thanks to you .

Imran and COD were both pretty hard trying to scum hunt, together with Ali. Now 2 of them are dead, Ali is probably next (or maybe he's scum and got me fooled), and then scum has an easy win again, because there's no one in the town left to scum hunt...

 

So now all townies need to step up!

I'm at work, on phone, looking to see what happened. Sorry if you expect an opinion/thought under such terms. We are an hour since day started...chill down a bit, we have 5 days

 

Mandi it's day 4. You are going to need better evidence then three people being on the forum and didn't post .

Why don't you post your opinions then? Same with Finster...

 

I did, several posts up, saying that I think that anyone who voted for d3mon is immediately suspect, but I wanted to hold my vote until we see if there were any night observations.

Jesus talk about a witch hunt. Manda I suggest you calm the fuck down and the same can be said to a lesser extent to Ali. Yes I made a terrible judgement call, because I thought I could do something during last night, but apparently I play mafia differently. That's all I can say and all I want to say. Also I would like to know why Rhizo wasn't lynched too, since he had 5 votes as well on deadline day

Jesus talk about a witch hunt. Manda I suggest you calm the fuck down and the same can be said to a lesser extent to Ali. Yes I made a terrible judgement call, because I thought I could do something during last night, but apparently I play mafia differently. That's all I can say and all I want to say. Also I would like to know why Rhizo wasn't lynched too, since he had 5 votes as well on deadline day

In a situation where two people receive enough votes for the half-majority lynch, the person who reached the proper number of votes first will be lynched. In this case d3mon received 5 votes first and was therefore lynched.

Jesus talk about a witch hunt. Manda I suggest you calm the fuck down and the same can be said to a lesser extent to Ali. Yes I made a terrible judgement call, because I thought I could do something during last night, but apparently I play mafia differently. That's all I can say and all I want to say. Also I would like to know why Rhizo wasn't lynched too, since he had 5 votes as well on deadline day

Don't worry about me, I'm calm. Worry about yourself because you're one of the main suspects now.

 

Isn't the core rule of the mafia games that you lynch ONE person a day. The only unknown was if TW chooses to:

1. Decide there's no lynch when noone has majority.

2. Lynch the first one that got minimal required number.

If this is your first game I can somewhat accept your explanation. Otherwise it's just a bad attempt to evade.

 

Could you also explain this sentence?

 

"Yes I made a terrible judgement call, because I thought I could do something during last night, but apparently I play mafia differently"

 

What do you mean?  Did you make a "terrible call" (voting on d3mon) because it would somehow help you during night? How? How would not voting on d3mon prevent you from doing your job? Also what did you base your "judgment call" upon? Those 2 posts he's made?

I thought that I had a night action, but I didn't. Why else would I ask people to hold off on lynching Rhizo? Like I said before I didn't think Rhzio was scum and I wanted to confirm it myself, but apparently I couldn't. That was the wrong judgement call. Need I say more at the risk of getting myself killed?

Vote Count

Rhizoctonia (1): Mandarijn

Yehom (1): Ali bin Turban

Ali bin Turban (0):

Avater (0):

Canik (0):

Finster Baby (0):

iSocialism (0):

KevinH (0):

Lyner (0):

Mandarijn (0):

Rafay (0):
Robert2424 (0):

Roquentin (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Avater, Canik, Finster Baby, iSocialism, KevinH, Lyner, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Robert2424, Roquentin, Yehom

 
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at update (deadline).
Update (deadline) is Monday, May 23rd, at 9:00am CN Server Time.

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-day-4/?p=855002

 

At this point, I am thinking d3mon is probably just an inactive town. Lyner/Rhizo/iSoc are scum team

I hope the town is ready to unite with me. I keep defending townies, NOT voting for them, easily one of the most active in scum hunting. CoD who saw things as I did and worked with me yesterday has been proven town. Lyner called him scum, and was wrong. I called him probably town, and was right. I was right about Kaz, d3mon. Please, if you are town, support me today. Make sure Rhizo is lynched at the end of the day (barring some irrefutable evidence proving his innocence).

Lyner/iSocialism. I would welcome your votes & support against Rhizo too. It's not written in stone that you'll be next. Though if you don't support us, it's extremely likely you will be.
 

The Miller got nothin'.

Base on what we knew at the time, it was correct to lynch D3mon.

Post count for the entire game:

63 Chaplain of death
61 Ali bin Turban
54 The Warrior
52 Imran Ehsan
51 KevinH
43 Lyner
37 Mandarijn
36 Rhizoctonia
36 Finster Baby
31 Canik
21 iSocialism
20 Robert2424
18 Shahenshah
18 Samus
16 Sister Midnight
15 Rafay
13 King Hitler
8 TheDoom
8 Antoine Roquentin
8 Yehom
5 Kaziocore
5 Avater
2 d3mon
 

Avater is next on my list.

Vote: Avater

 

 

Avater is next on my list.

The definition of insanity. To try the same thing and expect different results.

I am suspicious of Avater still but we could lynch him later. How about we go with my theories for a change?

Vote Rhizo

Yeah, I fess up and say I made a bad judgement on these. I'm not going to go with what seems safe(lynching inactives). It's my first game where I actually played so this was a mistake, but like Kevin said, we didn't have much to go on. Sorry to Imran since he was trying very hard. Should have prevented him getting sniped by scum.

Yehom probably has conditional abilities like even/odd

 

 

Also no one has definite infos yet?

 

 

 

 

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-day-4/?p=855002
 

 

At this point, I am thinking d3mon is probably just an inactive town. Lyner/Rhizo/iSoc are scum team

I hope the town is ready to unite with me. I keep defending townies, NOT voting for them, easily one of the most active in scum hunting. CoD who saw things as I did and worked with me yesterday has been proven town. Lyner called him scum, and was wrong. I called him probably town, and was right. I was right about Kaz, d3mon. Please, if you are town, support me today. Make sure Rhizo is lynched at the end of the day (barring some irrefutable evidence proving his innocence).

Lyner/iSocialism. I would welcome your votes & support against Rhizo too. It's not written in stone that you'll be next. Though if you don't support us, it's extremely likely you will be.
 

 

 

Scummy in every sentences. Scums know which ones are townies and which are not.

 

 

 

 

I think the most important thing to discuss right now is why scums chose Imran and CoD

Now that I'm home, I'll actually post.  Had to send Mandarijn a picture over Kik of me at work since now reading what happened on night on the forums via your phone at work and not posting is evidence against someone.  

 

Needless to say, I'm not going to continue with the same crap from the last day.  I've said what I've had to say, I'm not going to continue to argue over the same argument people still want to continue with already about me.  The sole reason people wont believe I'm a VT is because they believe it's a mass role game, and there can't be any VT's.  To this, even if the majority of people have roles, no where does it state there can't be a VT, or multiple.  This is only my second game, so I've only gotten my feet wet so far suffice to say, so I don't know what's normal, but I think it would be odd IMO if with 19 people, say 4-5 are scum (seems to be the guess), that there would be 14-15 town all with roles, and then only 3 or 4 scum with roles.  To me, having 14-15 town with roles and only 3-4 mafia with roles seems a little unbalanced to me.  But at this point, I'm done arguing the point.  There's nothing I can say that is going to change the minds of people like ABT/Mand and now Canik, nor would any new evidence someone could present change, as they'd just say it doesn't prove anything or can't be 100% sure.  It's based off suggesting they know how the game was setup and what the Mod chose, and they are clueless as anyone here what that is no matter how many times they want to act like they do.  

But needless to say, I at least do not have to respond to them anymore, because I know what they're going to say as they have said it multiple times already and I'm done arguing them when their mind is set, and done arguing they don't have a clue what roles were used, nor the fact there very well is a VT.  They argue that people aren't trying to witchhunt, but in all reality, they don't care what others say or who they vote for, it's quite obvious...either you vote for who they say, or you're a target or your choice is dumb and they're going to continue to berate you to change it.  They believe their opinion is the only one that matters, so don't think for yourself, just go with them.

So my opinion is likely falling on some deaf ears, which is fine, but I'll say my thoughts nonetheless.  In regards to the D3mon lynch, it sucks to lose another townie, that's for sure.  But if you think I'm going to sit here and be overly upset I'm not.  D3mon didn't provide anything to this game, he didn't post, he didn't vote, and he was of no use to town getting out scum.  He had a very important role as JOAT, and though without knowing what all roles he had, he probably had many that would of been real useful.  Yet he sat inactive, not voting, not using his roles or presenting anything, even after TW pinged him and he read the message.  Took a chance in voting to see if he was scum, he wasn't, and were out a townie who wasn't of use.  I do enjoy when people claim to vote off someone like me because we'll find out information nonetheless, as long as it's not them.  Hell we could vote of ABT and see if he was scum trying to bandwagon a lynch and learn something, we could vote off Mand and see if his role cop was that of town or scum, we could vote off Finister and see if he's scum to see if Canik maybe his scum buddy, could vote off Lyner to see if he was scum trying to push a lynch on Canik....could be said for a lot of people, and all would give us a possible "glimpse."  I also like that ABT said it was already known D3mon had a role.....which I find funny because I I'd love to know how it was so known besides it seeming like many had roles, or how it was known D3mon wasn't a scum either.  I mean, the way people are playing, it seems like Scum shouldn't post, because they get a pass in some eyes.  

So here's what I'm looking at, at this point.

Canik - I've had suspicion of Canik ever since he took over for Shah.  He came and saw his back was against the wall and likely the lynch, and he was able to do a complete 180 from Shah after he saw Shah's approach was putting him on the hot seat.  Luckily for him, people have seemingly given him the benefit of the doubt, and I think he's fooling you'll.  The nice thing he got, was the ability to change from Shah and people saying, well it's 2 different people, so maybe they just play different.  Anyone else who has started suspicion their way are not able to do this, they can't do a 180 from what they just said or just acted like and somehow are forgotten about or suspicion taken off them, in fact they would likely be dead for trying to do it.  To go along with that, Shah/Canik have been on the hot seat a few times this game with 3+ votes, yet was never lynched.  If scum wanted an easy kill, they could of easily bandwagonned on Canik/Shah with a few votes and got him lynched.  It wouldn't of taken much, hell a lot of people have posted suspicion of him, so it wouldn't of been hard to make a claim for looking to lynch him, but every time he was let off.  An easy target 2 or so times to get lynched, and was never jumped on...maybe because he is scum.  Say's he has been actively witch hunting.  If you call for most of the time trying to lynch Lyner, and when that wasn't going his way, jumping ship to me when his life was in danger and I was the likely best chance he had of surviving.  I'm not faulting him for this, I did the same with D3mon...but I don't see much scum hunting from him like he wants to claim.

ABT - I've been suspicious of ABT for awhile now.  His playing style, seemingly pushy way and looking to push lynches.  Him and Imran seemed to feed off one another and repeat the same things....now with Imran being killed and found to be town, I give a little lee way his way but I'm still suspicious.  Very well could be just feeding off Imran and bandwagonning on whatever he voted.  Had tendency to repeat the same arguments as Imran, Imran tried to push people off other votes, and a few posts later, ABT does the exact same thing and trying to push from one person to the next.  

 

People who voted D3mon - There's this option too.  The likes of people voting D3mon could be a sign of some possible Scum.  The likes of Roq, Kevin, Rafay, Yehom, Lyner (I'm including because he originally went that way and then jumped off suddenly to follow ABT when there was enough to lynch D3mon, could be looking to distance himself) and myself.  I've already said my reasoning for voting D3mon, because of him being of no help even after being pinged, and at the time it came down to him or me.  Even without a role, I think at least a townie who posts some is better then someone who isn't at all.  Not sold this is the main point of focus though.